Attention Attention Info On Supercharger !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 07-26-2001, 09:07 PM
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Attention Attention Info On Supercharger !!!!!!!!!!!!!

we will not have any final details on the kit until production, but the
prototype kit has been running on the V6 98-01 Accord, and now is being
fitted to the 2001 CL-S.
Thanks,
Comptech USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Evan Cohen" <HA65MPH@acura-tl.com>
To: "Aaron Roseli" <aaronr@comptechusa.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Info on supercharger...


> Please. Please tell me if it will fit the 3.2 because I heard it suppost
to be for the 3.0.
>
> Thanks again Evan
>
> --- "Aaron Roseli" <aaronr@comptechusa.com>
> > wrote:
> >Hello,
> >The S/C Kit for the V6 cars will not be out for the new couple of
> >months...we will not have any info on the Kit until the Kit is Finalized
and
> >available to the public.
> >Keep updated on our website.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Comptech USA
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Evan Cohen" <HA65MPH@acura-tl.com>
> >To: <info@comptechusa.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 10:14 AM
> >Subject: Info on supercharger...
> >
> >
> >> Please give me all the detials you can refrence to the 3.2 supercharger
> >for the 3.0 accord and/or 3.2TL(acura)
> >> I am very interested to know if it will work on my TL.
price/details/when
> >will it come out & any other info you can give me.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Evan Cohen
Old 07-26-2001, 09:09 PM
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I JUST GOT THIS 5 MINUTES AGO>>> I KNOW YOU ALL WANT TO KNOW THIS.....

EVAN "Popeye" Cohen
Old 07-26-2001, 09:10 PM
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sweet

sweet... 15,000 dollars later
Old 07-26-2001, 11:21 PM
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I'm expecting to pay 5K.
Old 07-27-2001, 01:21 PM
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thanks for the info..

better start saving
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ya they started up the CL-S with the supercharger last night
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Originally posted by snook789
ya they started up the CL-S with the supercharger last night
Tim, you know I want to be the first one to get this from you
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I know this has been discussed 10 thousand times already, but I am thinking you guys should still worry about the transmission taking that load on.
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i agree w/ soundspeed

this fine piece of bolt on is gonna get our tranny killed!
definately alot of problems, they better make an intercooler, and other things to benefit from the sc

but then on the other hand i think it would be very tempting for the supercharger to be coming out
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Would A Torque Converter be the remedy for the transmission?
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Originally posted by HA 65MPH
Would A Torque Converter be the remedy for the transmission?
You mean a high-performance torque converter? There is one on ACP, a level 10 torque converter, but it is for the accord. I don't know if that would eliminate the problems, the transmission is still going to be dealing with the load.

So in addition to the 5-6 grand for the sc, you would also need to buy a torque converter. How much do those go for? How hard are they to install? How much would installation be? Even with the tc, how long will the tranny hold out?

So many questions.
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Originally posted by SoundSpeed


You mean a high-performance torque converter? There is one on ACP, a level 10 torque converter, but it is for the accord. I don't know if that would eliminate the problems, the transmission is still going to be dealing with the load.

So in addition to the 5-6 grand for the sc, you would also need to buy a torque converter. How much do those go for? How hard are they to install? How much would installation be? Even with the tc, how long will the tranny hold out?

So many questions.
Level Ten TC=$$$$$ SC=$$$$$$$$$$ and NOS is only $

So cheap way Nos or Expensive way SC

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NOS can be the expensive way.....it isnt all that safe either..

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Nitrous is bad for you. I wouldn't even put it in a Civic. I just think nitrous is too risky for any car. There are much more "engine- safer" ways to add a little power.
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Why does everyone assume a torque converter will make everything better?

It doesn't make your tranny any stronger. Hell I had a friend that got an aftermarket torque converter specifically made for his car that eventually ate up his transmission, and he had to drop it and go back to stock. (was a GS400)

The best thing to do would be to get a tranny cooler, (which can be found for less than $50 and are a DIY install). And get a valve body recalibration. That would actually do your tranny some good.
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a TC probably woudlnt help much w/ reliability of the tranny, but for those who want to know, the Level10 TC is around $600
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Originally posted by F=ma
Why does everyone assume a torque converter will make everything better?

It doesn't make your tranny any stronger. Hell I had a friend that got an aftermarket torque converter specifically made for his car that eventually ate up his transmission, and he had to drop it and go back to stock. (was a GS400)

The best thing to do would be to get a tranny cooler, (which can be found for less than $50 and are a DIY install). And get a valve body recalibration. That would actually do your tranny some good.
...you know Kenny there was some talk about the tranny cooler and the guys at comptechusa installed on as part of the supercharger package on the accord and reportedly gained an additional 10HP to the wheels BUT>>>they did also use redline fluid .i want to know which fluid race???i definitely want to do the tranny cooler install eventhough there's no chance ill get the supercharger short of winning lotto..oh ya and the valve body recalibration i would love that nice chirps in second yah baby!yah
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Originally posted by SoundSpeed
I know this has been discussed 10 thousand times already, but I am thinking you guys should still worry about the transmission taking that load on.
couple of thoughts... comptech would not design and sell an aftermarket part that would kill any other component as that pretty much kills the clientel. much like their NSX(yeah i know its a race car) and the s2000 SC from comptech, i'm sure it'll work fine with the boost they will provide it with. also, if Park Ave, and hopefully they will, supports the SC, then the rare incident where a tranny may blow will still be covered. I think that if Comptech puts out the SC and no dealer will step up and say its covered, they will not sell nearly as many units. so again, its in their best interest to put something out that will work with our cars with minimal negative effects. thats why they are testing it extensively, otherwise every single mom and pop shop would be dropping in SC to any car and saying sorry, we're not responsible for engine or tranny problems.
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Higher stall torque converter will increase transmission fluid
temps, it's a performance bolt on NOT a reliability bolt on.

Intercoolers reduces the effeciency of the supercharger, especially
compared to a sc that's mounted directly to the intake manifold.
For the amount of boost we'll be running (on type s, I guess they'll
give us 4psi), it's worthless money.

I'd rather have it cost 3500 w/o intercooler than 4500 with intercooler.
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Originally posted by Closer
Higher stall torque converter will increase transmission fluid
temps, it's a performance bolt on NOT a reliability bolt on.

Intercoolers reduces the effeciency of the supercharger, especially
compared to a sc that's mounted directly to the intake manifold.
For the amount of boost we'll be running (on type s, I guess they'll
give us 4psi), it's worthless money.

I'd rather have it cost 3500 w/o intercooler than 4500 with intercooler.
wha?

what are u talking about? intercoolers allow for cooler air into the SC, how do they decrease efficiency?
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The extra piping, restrictions and turbulence reduces the
effeciency of the supercharger. Thus the sc will work harder to
output the same amount of compressed air.
It's an old ford/chevy debate.

Supercharger A: intercooled
Supercharger B: non-intercooled

SC-a will have to run through extra piping and work harder to
produce it's output. SC-b has less load, so the sc doesn't have
to work as hard as sc-a.

Efficiency of a sc can be measured by the heat of the output.
SC-a, even though it's intercooled, it will put out a higher
temperture output initially (before the intercooler).

When you're talking small amounts of boost with relativly low
increases in temperture, an intercooler is more money and strain
than it's worth. At higher pressures, with a huge increase in
temps, then intercooler is very important.
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