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Do you have a preference on having it done privately or through a shop? Do you have a TL-P or TL-S? Are you supplying the AV6 transmission?

jzhu625

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I've been reading this and i'm on my 2nd tranny, i just dropped my car off yesterday for a rebuilt 07 accord transmission, I was told that 05-07 tranny are same? BYAB tranny?

3.2TLc

Hey Jzhu625, ya got the right one with the '07 Accord if it came from a V-6 car.
Good luck, and update us once ya get it back !!! thanks

Skirmich

05 still used the "Upgraded" B7WA < Our transmission..
BYAB is a completely new transmission used on the 06 and 07.

jzhu625

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I should have the car back tomorrow or Thursday latest. I'll keep everyone posted once I get it back. shop told me they'll put 07 Transmission, wonder if there's a way I can tell if 05,06 or 07?

Skirmich

^ By the bar code sticker they have the Trans name on it..

3.2TLc

^^^ Always nice to have a spare sitting in the garage.....just for times like this !!!

jzhu625

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Thanks for the images, hope I won't have a hard time try to locate the stick since the car might not be on lift when I get there.

BoriTL

Just trying to gather info. has anyone successfully done the swap on a 99?? i know ECU etc needs to be changed but has anyone done it??

jzhu625

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I'm not sure if you can mount directly to your engine with 06/07 Transmission

Skirmich

^ Trans will bolt on for sure.. He's running a J32A1 which has the same bell end as our J32A2

BoriTL

Good to hear so far!! Now the question is has a 99er done the swap??

jzhu625

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shop called me and advised they can't get the accord transmission in, said it will NOT work. lolz. they said will put it on for me but no warranty

jzhu625

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another update-
i told them just put the accord transmission without warranty.

basically this morning received a call from them and advised accord transmission won't work and they already put Acura transmission back in. but it's the SAME one that was on my car. I rebuilt my transmission 2 cars ago with approx 30k miles, I have a feeling when they open my old transmission and noticed not a lot of parts damaged means cheap fix, so they decided to fixed with low cost instead of put accord transmission?

what you guys think?

Skirmich

^ You gave them the Green light to install the B7WA? If not tell them to go FUCK OFF and install the Accord transmission... If you didn't agreed on it of course... Tell them that if they don't want to install the Accord transmission because of their lack of knowledge you will take it to some other more capable shop.


Shit I hate dealing with Arrogant shops like that, How did they know the Accord trans would not work if they didn't tried it? Too lazy or just don't wanna do extra work..


Tell them to remove that transmission and do what you told them to do.. Just talk them out from any responsibility and they will do it! Tell them is all on you just install that MOFO as you want it and NEVER come back to that shop.

jzhu625

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that's what I did, i told them put the accord transmission since I never give them green light to Acura transmission, wonder why they even put it on!!!!

Skirmich

^ Mostly legal issues.. Since they got to give you some sort of warranty Most if not all Trans shops don't wanna deal with Swaps since they can go wrong any time (If the swap isn't really bolt on like the Accord)... Thus why you want to talk them out of any responsibility and make them agree on doing it, its sometimes a hardship.

jzhu625

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basically they're saying since the ratio is different which saying MIGHT burn oil due to transmission will spin faster and won't provide any warranty. to be honest, as long they won't mess up it should be fine

Skirmich

^ Funny because only 4th and 5th are Different for TL-p users the trans has exactly same Ratios as the TL-S transmission so they are talking out of their butthole they don't even know the ratios hahaha.

jzhu625

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yeah, totally agree! I'll keep this forums posted once I pick up my car tomorrow!

3.2TLc

So, what tranny is gonna be in it when ya pick it up tomorrow ?
If the shop rebuilt the old one and re-installed it, what are the total costs and warranty ?
And....what happens to the AV6 sitting there in the shop if it was'nt used ?

jzhu625

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On day 1 I wanted them to put a rebuilt Accord transmission but they put my old transmission back after rebuilt, i told them no and just put a rebuilt accord transmission there. tomorrow when i pick up it will be the accord transmission.

rebuilt old tranny cost $1350
accord tranny $1450

teggyturnedtl

Is anybody on the newer accord Trans with over 75,000 miles on it? I went to a reputable shop 2 years ago and about 70,000.00 miles ago and had my original tranny rebuilt. I must say they did a great job but i was sure to run into this problem again. So now here i am 70,000 miles later and my tranny is starting to stutter again. I dont think im doing the rebuild again, but i would hate to do the accord swap only to find that another 70k later im in the same trouble. If anybody is having any type of issues please speak up. The manual tranny is always an option i just would rather have automatic.

Skirmich

^ There is a thread down here with AV6 Swap only members look it up!
AV6 has nowhere the problems of our B7WA.. It gets toasted for sure if neglected but it doesn't suicide itself like ours

BoriTL

Don't think anybody is in the 70k range yet, but theres a couple with 20k+ and claim to have no problems and better gas mileage.

666wokker

One swap I've done for a good friend, the trans came from the boneyard with 170k on it, he's put another 40k with the tl, its still really solid and strong!

He's on the same 10k 1x3 regimen I use for mine.

jzhu625

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Ok guys. So I picked up the car with accord transmission. I conformed since I saw sticker with BAYA on it. I took it for a spin. Once pass 60MPH the engine and all lights came on. Driving to friend shop scan code now

jzhu625

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3.2TLc

Hmmm....!!!

jzhu625

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i'll bring it back mon or so but i'll call them tomorrow and tell them p0740!

Memphlow

Did they install a new torque converter? If they used the original one from a failed or failing B7WA that is probably the issue. The TC should either be new or fully functioning.

Skirmich

Did you make sure to tell them what needs to be changed from your transmission to the BAYA?..

jzhu625

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Tomorrow I'll double check with them if they used new TC, i'm so tired and making me want to sell my car now. when I first picked up it was so smooth shifting, never felt so smooth even from the day 1 I bought the car.

I told them to use all plugs/sensors from my car, do not use any presure senors from accord.

Skirmich

^ You should be fine don't give up this stage into the game.. Once its sorted out you will have a stupid reliable car that its still very capable performance wise and pretty much ageless..

jzhu625

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yeah, I called them this morning and told them when I was driving home I got the P0740 code again, I'll bring it in on Monday afternoon, I hope no stupid story from them since indeed I agreed on no warranty but that does NOT mean drive a broken car home!

Skirmich

^ Does it make anything wrong rather than having a code pop in? Cuz P0740 only means the TQ doesn't engage while cruising have you tried it out?


Usually you know its engaged while doing 60mph and your revs are close to 1.5K in 5th gear if you accelerate a little it will unlock the TQ and revs will go a little bit higher than 2K which is OK at 60MPH for 5th gear... It will lock again and revs will go again down to 1.5K.

jzhu625

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^ I'm not sure what do you mean, all the shifting is fine even at 5th gear even when I was going 60MPH and step a little more gas, and YES RPM went higher and car does feel pick up faster. If i don't see all those lights I would think the car is perfectly fine.

TLZINE99

I would check the fluid level and discoloration they might have overfilled the trans and make sure to ask them if they used HONDA fluids (DW-1) we all know these trans are very sensitive to fluids, using non HONDA Fluids can yield to FAILURE and all sort of abnormalities! TRANSFIX AND NON SLIP JUNK FLUIDS is a big NO NO

jzhu625

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I can confirmed they did NOT put Honda ATF, I saw they put some red bottle ATF, some universal ATF. you think overfilled ATF will cost P0740?

Skirmich

^ Nope..
T/Q engagement is tied to P0740 if it works then there isn't a problem with the trans, have you tried to reset the ECU by pulling the clock fuse?