Recall time
#241
Thats correct mine is impacted but wont bring it in until they have both parts got notice they have driver waiting on passenger as well.
#243
#244
Instructor
iTrader: (1)
Just checked mine. Just returned the camaro to enterprise last week too. Wonder if they'll let me get it again. I'll call on Monday.
NHTSA RECALL NUMBER: 16V-344
MFR CAMPAIGN ID: KA3
CAMPAIGN DESCRIPTION: Passenger Airbag Inflator
RECALL DATE: 05/23/2016
RECALL STATUS: Recall INCOMPLETE
SUMMARY:AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC. (HONDA) IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2003-2006 ACURA MDX AND 2005-2011 ACURA RL VEHICLES. ACCORDING TO THEEQUIPMENT DEFECT NOTIFICATIONS (16E-042, 16E-043, AND 16E-044) FILED BY TAKATA, THE PROPELLANT WAFERS IN SOME OF THE SUBJECT INFLATORS MAY DEGRADE OVER TIME, WHICH COULD LEAD TO OVER-AGGRESSIVE COMBUSTION IN THE EVENT THE AIRBAG IS ACTIVATED. OVERLY AGGRESSIVE COMBUSTION CREATES EXCESSIVE INTERNAL PRESSURE WHEN THE INFLATOR IS ACTIVATED, WHICH MAY CAUSE THE INFLATOR BODY TO RUPTURE. ACURA SUGGESTS THAT YOU AVOID HAVING A PASSENGER SIT IN THE FRONT PASSENGER'S SEAT UNTIL THE RECALL REPAIR HAS BEEN PERFORMED.
SAFETY RISK:IN THE EVENT OF AN INFLATOR RUPTURE, METAL FRAGMENTS COULD PASS THROUGH THE AIRBAG CUSHION MATERIAL POSSIBLY CAUSING SERIOUS INJURY OR FATALITY TO VEHICLE OCCUPANTS.
REMEDY:ACURA WILL NOTIFY OWNERS, AND DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE PASSENGER FRONTAL AIRBAG INFLATOR, FREE OF CHARGE. OWNERS MAY CONTACT ACURA CLIENT RELATIONS AT 1-888-234-2138. ACURA'S NUMBER FOR THIS RECALL IS KA3.
NHTSA RECALL NUMBER: 16V-344
MFR CAMPAIGN ID: KA3
CAMPAIGN DESCRIPTION: Passenger Airbag Inflator
RECALL DATE: 05/23/2016
RECALL STATUS: Recall INCOMPLETE
SUMMARY:AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC. (HONDA) IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2003-2006 ACURA MDX AND 2005-2011 ACURA RL VEHICLES. ACCORDING TO THEEQUIPMENT DEFECT NOTIFICATIONS (16E-042, 16E-043, AND 16E-044) FILED BY TAKATA, THE PROPELLANT WAFERS IN SOME OF THE SUBJECT INFLATORS MAY DEGRADE OVER TIME, WHICH COULD LEAD TO OVER-AGGRESSIVE COMBUSTION IN THE EVENT THE AIRBAG IS ACTIVATED. OVERLY AGGRESSIVE COMBUSTION CREATES EXCESSIVE INTERNAL PRESSURE WHEN THE INFLATOR IS ACTIVATED, WHICH MAY CAUSE THE INFLATOR BODY TO RUPTURE. ACURA SUGGESTS THAT YOU AVOID HAVING A PASSENGER SIT IN THE FRONT PASSENGER'S SEAT UNTIL THE RECALL REPAIR HAS BEEN PERFORMED.
SAFETY RISK:IN THE EVENT OF AN INFLATOR RUPTURE, METAL FRAGMENTS COULD PASS THROUGH THE AIRBAG CUSHION MATERIAL POSSIBLY CAUSING SERIOUS INJURY OR FATALITY TO VEHICLE OCCUPANTS.
REMEDY:ACURA WILL NOTIFY OWNERS, AND DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE PASSENGER FRONTAL AIRBAG INFLATOR, FREE OF CHARGE. OWNERS MAY CONTACT ACURA CLIENT RELATIONS AT 1-888-234-2138. ACURA'S NUMBER FOR THIS RECALL IS KA3.
#246
Fk no!TheyldstroyEvrthing
Thread Starter
Acura Canada doesn't acknowledge a recall exists on the passenger side except for the MDXs.
They also mentioned the remaining airbags in the car (the ones other than driver's & passenger's) are not manufactured by takata and therefore will not have a recall on them.
They also mentioned the remaining airbags in the car (the ones other than driver's & passenger's) are not manufactured by takata and therefore will not have a recall on them.
#247
Three Wheelin'
Got my passenger airbag replaced today. I guess everything is back to normal now. I'm still waiting for parts for my RDX, and still driving the BMW rental.
#251
Cruisin'
Mine has been parked for three weeks tomorrow. Had a Hyundai Sonata for two weeks then called and was able to switch to brand new Jeep Wrangler. Fun in the sun!
#252
Intermediate
Sooooooooo....I haven't read the whole 7 pages of this BUT!!!!!! to be clear my RL just got out of Service and got replaced both (driver and passenger) airbags inflators. That's the only part that Honda and Acura is replacing. You keep your airbag. It took the dealer about two weeks to get the parts in and about half a day to install them. My wife's Ridgeline in the other hand has been waiting for the driver and passenger airbag inflators for about a month now. I don't understand why Honda is taking longer. Maybe is the high demand since there's a lot more Ridgeline's than RL's. A very important note is that the recall for the passenger side JUST got out a few weeks ago. Not like the driver side that got out back in February. I'm attaching a link from American Honda's Senior VP on this issue. Hope this clears some minds around here. OHHHHHH!!!!! before I forget, yes we have a loaner awaiting the parts on the Ridgeline. Honda or Acura will pay for the loaner. I don't know how that will work on every state but down here in Puerto Rico the deal is as follow......you give a $50 deposit and they give you a similar vehicle. They WILL give you back the $50 once you return the loaner. Everything else is paid by the dealer. Except gas of course LOL!!!!!
Honda Airbag Info Recall
Honda Airbag Info Recall
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#253
Fk no!TheyldstroyEvrthing
Thread Starter
Driver side done. It seems the 'seat massage' is indeed part of the procedure.
Acura Canada seems to be uninterested in doing the passenger side. Not at the moment at least.
Did a nice engine shampoo.
I may have found a relatively good dealer. fingers crossed.
Acura Canada seems to be uninterested in doing the passenger side. Not at the moment at least.
Did a nice engine shampoo.
I may have found a relatively good dealer. fingers crossed.
#254
Driver side done PS on back order...The <60min effort turned into almost 2 hours as they decided to do a "courtesy inspection" and tell me I needed ~$3000 in work on a car they previously "inspected" in Oct and gave an all clear and that a Honda Master tech also looked over in March at TB time and found no issues (<300 miles was put on it since Oct BTW)
And THIS is why I dont go to dealers!
And THIS is why I dont go to dealers!
#255
Hi All a quick Recall update: I'm going on Three months driving a rental and have yet heard anything from the Dealer where I took my RL for the recall.. I'm just glad the car is under the carport instead of the dealer parking log..
#256
Fk no!TheyldstroyEvrthing
Thread Starter
Stop driving these Hondas right now, says regulator
by Chris Isidore @CNNMoneyJune 30, 2016: 3:03 PM ET
Here's what a Takata airbag explosion looks like
Federal safety regulators warned owners of more than 300,000 Hondas and Acuras to immediately stop driving their cars until their Takata airbags are replaced.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said new tests show the airbags have a 50% chance of exploding when deployed in an accident -- compared to a 1% chance for other airbags.
"The risk posed by the airbag inflators in these vehicles is grave, and it is critical they be repaired now to avoid more deaths and serious injuries," said the agency's statement.
Nearly 70 million airbags in U.S. cars have been or will be recalled as part of a massive safety scandal enveloping Takata since 2014.
Related: Toyota recalls 1.4 million cars for airbag problem
Cars located in humid regions of the country such as Texas, Florida and the Gulf Coast are at particular risk.
Exploding Takata airbags have been tied to 10 deaths in the U.S., and eight of those were in cars that had the specific type of airbag at issue in Thursday's warning.
This group of cars is a small subset of cars with Takata airbags that have been already recalled. The number of cars needing repairs is less than that because some cars have two Takata airbags that need to be replaced.
But it is estimated that at least 20% of the 260 million cars on U.S. roads have or had a defective Takata airbag.
The airbags are spread across 13 different automakers, including all of the major ones. Honda -- both the Honda brand and its luxury Acura -- has by far had the most cars affected by the recall.
It will take until 2019 to replace these airbags because not all of the parts are immediately available.
Honda (HMC) has the replacement parts to fix all of the 300,000 high-risk cars covered by this alert, NHTSA said.
The models identified by NHTSA include: 2001-2002 Honda Civic, 2001-2002 Honda Accord, 2002-2003 Acura TL, 2002 Honda CR-V, 2002 Honda Odyssey, 2003 Acura CL, 2003 Honda Pilot.
Related: Fiat Chrysler scrambling to fix roll away problem
About 700,000 cars with the high risk airbags have already been fixed. The recalls for these models took place between 2008 and 2011.
But it often takes years for recalled cars to be fixed. On average about a third of recalled vehicles are never repaired, according to industry estimates. That's true even in the case of high profile recalls involving multiple deaths.
According to NHTSA, 8.9 million Takata airbags were replaced in the last year. But that only represents about a third of the cars in which owners have been notified that a replacement part is available.
CNNMoney (New York)First published June 30, 2016: 1:00 PM ET
by Chris Isidore @CNNMoneyJune 30, 2016: 3:03 PM ET
Here's what a Takata airbag explosion looks like
Federal safety regulators warned owners of more than 300,000 Hondas and Acuras to immediately stop driving their cars until their Takata airbags are replaced.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said new tests show the airbags have a 50% chance of exploding when deployed in an accident -- compared to a 1% chance for other airbags.
"The risk posed by the airbag inflators in these vehicles is grave, and it is critical they be repaired now to avoid more deaths and serious injuries," said the agency's statement.
Nearly 70 million airbags in U.S. cars have been or will be recalled as part of a massive safety scandal enveloping Takata since 2014.
Related: Toyota recalls 1.4 million cars for airbag problem
Cars located in humid regions of the country such as Texas, Florida and the Gulf Coast are at particular risk.
Exploding Takata airbags have been tied to 10 deaths in the U.S., and eight of those were in cars that had the specific type of airbag at issue in Thursday's warning.
This group of cars is a small subset of cars with Takata airbags that have been already recalled. The number of cars needing repairs is less than that because some cars have two Takata airbags that need to be replaced.
But it is estimated that at least 20% of the 260 million cars on U.S. roads have or had a defective Takata airbag.
The airbags are spread across 13 different automakers, including all of the major ones. Honda -- both the Honda brand and its luxury Acura -- has by far had the most cars affected by the recall.
It will take until 2019 to replace these airbags because not all of the parts are immediately available.
Honda (HMC) has the replacement parts to fix all of the 300,000 high-risk cars covered by this alert, NHTSA said.
The models identified by NHTSA include: 2001-2002 Honda Civic, 2001-2002 Honda Accord, 2002-2003 Acura TL, 2002 Honda CR-V, 2002 Honda Odyssey, 2003 Acura CL, 2003 Honda Pilot.
Related: Fiat Chrysler scrambling to fix roll away problem
About 700,000 cars with the high risk airbags have already been fixed. The recalls for these models took place between 2008 and 2011.
But it often takes years for recalled cars to be fixed. On average about a third of recalled vehicles are never repaired, according to industry estimates. That's true even in the case of high profile recalls involving multiple deaths.
According to NHTSA, 8.9 million Takata airbags were replaced in the last year. But that only represents about a third of the cars in which owners have been notified that a replacement part is available.
CNNMoney (New York)First published June 30, 2016: 1:00 PM ET
#257
Does this recall include the airbag inflators in the a pillars? There have been a few threads about water leaking down the a pillars which can't be good for airbags.
#258
Fk no!TheyldstroyEvrthing
Thread Starter
Also, I had asked Acura canada if other airbags than driver & passenger would be included eventually, and they said no coz takata only made those, the rest of the airbags are by different suppliers according to Acura.
#259
Getting Air Bage Replaced Tomorrow
Not because of any other reason than due diligence. I called Acura after 3 months of waiting. Got an outside company that answers phone. Told them to connect me directly to dealership. Talked to the guy in parts. He said part not in yet but....We have several other parts for other peoples car that are to be fixed. Well why aren't you fixing them I said. He said they won't call us back. I said give me one of those parts. He said OK. So tomorrow morning they will be installing new inflator and I will finally be able to drive my RL. Now lets just hope they don't recall my passenger side airbag!
#261
Advanced
Not because of any other reason than due diligence. I called Acura after 3 months of waiting. Got an outside company that answers phone. Told them to connect me directly to dealership. Talked to the guy in parts. He said part not in yet but....We have several other parts for other peoples car that are to be fixed. Well why aren't you fixing them I said. He said they won't call us back. I said give me one of those parts. He said OK. So tomorrow morning they will be installing new inflator and I will finally be able to drive my RL. Now lets just hope they don't recall my passenger side airbag!
#262
Well, I checked my vin and no recall yet on passenger side.
Does anybody know if it is all RL's 2005-2012 that "will" be recalled for passenger side also?
Friggin nightmare, I mostly drive alone but I am not putting anyone in that passenger seat until I know for sure.
Does anybody know if it is all RL's 2005-2012 that "will" be recalled for passenger side also?
Friggin nightmare, I mostly drive alone but I am not putting anyone in that passenger seat until I know for sure.
#263
Advanced
Well, I checked my vin and no recall yet on passenger side.
Does anybody know if it is all RL's 2005-2012 that "will" be recalled for passenger side also?
Friggin nightmare, I mostly drive alone but I am not putting anyone in that passenger seat until I know for sure.
Does anybody know if it is all RL's 2005-2012 that "will" be recalled for passenger side also?
Friggin nightmare, I mostly drive alone but I am not putting anyone in that passenger seat until I know for sure.
#264
Burning Brakes
Got notice on my passenger side yesterday, going in next week. It states not to drive it with a passenger in the passenger seat. Still waiting on drivers side. I'm requesting a loaner as only way I think they'll move fast is if it's costing them. Dealer uses hertz, said I'll get a sedan of some sort. The delay on parts is total crap since we are basically driving with a potentially loaded gun pointing at our heads.
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#268
Fk no!TheyldstroyEvrthing
Thread Starter
Not because of any other reason than due diligence. I called Acura after 3 months of waiting. Got an outside company that answers phone. Told them to connect me directly to dealership. Talked to the guy in parts. He said part not in yet but....We have several other parts for other peoples car that are to be fixed. Well why aren't you fixing them I said. He said they won't call us back. I said give me one of those parts. He said OK. So tomorrow morning they will be installing new inflator and I will finally be able to drive my RL. Now lets just hope they don't recall my passenger side airbag!
My inflator had to be transferred from a dealership to another coz only that part number assigned to my VIN sent by Acura could be installed on my car. I'm surprised to read they just installed one of the parts received for someone else who's not calling back...
#269
Update- Went to stealership this morning and had inflator installed. Not the one ordered for my car but someone's who would not call them back to do the repair (obviously someone who has a better loaner than the car that needs repair). I was told they are using the vin number but for tracking purposes only. Now I wait because I know the passenger side airbag is next and will be showing up on recall website by my vin number soon. Just glad to be back in my RL. No offense Ford but your Fusion SUCKS!
#271
#272
Three Wheelin'
#273
No way in hell would I leave my car with them.
I had to sign a document stating I would not drive it and even had to take a picture of the current mileage.
It stayed safely in my garage while I beat the crap out of enterprises 2016 Ford Fusion.
I am continuing to check the acura recall website for 2 reasons.
I want to see the first recall cleared as repaired.
I also want to make an appointment for passenger side airbag the second it shows up on the website.
Stay tuned.
I had to sign a document stating I would not drive it and even had to take a picture of the current mileage.
It stayed safely in my garage while I beat the crap out of enterprises 2016 Ford Fusion.
I am continuing to check the acura recall website for 2 reasons.
I want to see the first recall cleared as repaired.
I also want to make an appointment for passenger side airbag the second it shows up on the website.
Stay tuned.
#274
Burning Brakes
Ok, I'm going to keep the car with me. Looks like I May get a Jetta or Chrysler 200 through hertz, just f'ing great...nowhere near comparable to an rl, but that's what hertz lists as full size luxury. Hope they have something better.
#275
We don't have a class called a "Full Size Luxury".. Just "Luxury" or "I" Class.
#276
Previously got the recall notice for the driver's side. Last week, got the notice for the passenger. Called the dealership where I bought the car CPO back in '09. They said the passenger inflator can be quickly ordered in, probably for next week, but the driver part doesn't exist and won't for an unknown number of months -- when I floated December, the guy didn't argue.
Reading this thread, I gather Honda feels legally obligated to give me a loaner provided I promise to park and not drive my car. I'm fine with this except I don't want my car deteriorating from disuse over multiple months.
Thought: Someone here suggested pulling the fuse from the airbags. Obviously, for liability reasons Acura would never admit this works even if it does. But: Does this work? Can I do that and have the rest of the car work normally?
Reading this thread, I gather Honda feels legally obligated to give me a loaner provided I promise to park and not drive my car. I'm fine with this except I don't want my car deteriorating from disuse over multiple months.
Thought: Someone here suggested pulling the fuse from the airbags. Obviously, for liability reasons Acura would never admit this works even if it does. But: Does this work? Can I do that and have the rest of the car work normally?
#277
Burning Brakes
Got my loaner today, Hyundai Sonata. Choice was that or Nissan Sentra. Sonata isn't that bad, nowhere near like the rl, but I'm getting 44mpg and it has bt audio, unlike my rl. Very roomy car, more room in back seat than rl and bigger trunk. Only has 7k miles on it.
btw, I had to sign papers that say I won't drive my car. If I do and I get into an accident, I owe Acura for the cost of the rental. At $350/week, that will be quite a bill in several months.
btw, I had to sign papers that say I won't drive my car. If I do and I get into an accident, I owe Acura for the cost of the rental. At $350/week, that will be quite a bill in several months.
#278
Three Wheelin'
I never signed any papers stating I wouldn't drive my Acura while it was waiting for inflators. In fact, the service advisor recommended I occasionally drive it just to keep everything properly lubricated. If my dealer wanted me to sign such papers, I would have asked them, would they be fixing any issues the car has due to not moving for several months?
#279
No post 2006 incidents
So. I have an 08 and received my 2nd recall letter. I never sought a rental when receiving the first letter a few months back. As much as I like putting extra miles on someone else car, I like my ride. And I guess I didn't take the threat too seriously...
When I called to set up a fix I was told that I have two recalls( driver and passenger), and that they needed to order my parts VIN specific. They asked my name and ran it through the computer and did so. She said it would take a few weeks. When I asked about the safety of driving the car until then, I was told that there have been no incidents with an Acura post 2006 and only 3 prior to 2006 models. So therefore, an incident was highly unlikely, and that Acura was doing the recall on post 2006 cars more from a public relations/media stand-point. Guess they are running out of loaners:-D
When I called to set up a fix I was told that I have two recalls( driver and passenger), and that they needed to order my parts VIN specific. They asked my name and ran it through the computer and did so. She said it would take a few weeks. When I asked about the safety of driving the car until then, I was told that there have been no incidents with an Acura post 2006 and only 3 prior to 2006 models. So therefore, an incident was highly unlikely, and that Acura was doing the recall on post 2006 cars more from a public relations/media stand-point. Guess they are running out of loaners:-D
#280
Burning Brakes
I got the same line when I went in to get a loaner, it's standard script. Nobody really knows the extent of weakness in the inflators. One thing is true and that it is happening to the older cars in the 10-15 year range. <br /><br />These cars have takata inflators, takata inflators are known to have issues. Your car may or may not have an issue, but guess what, you won't know until you are in an accident, at which point it will be too late. The airbag is designed to save your life, but the opposite could happen. I hate not having my car too, but I value having my life more so I took the rental car. I'll start my car once a week and keep it trickle charging, sitting for a few months won't cause any issue.