oo7spy

You should have told him to go fuck himself. He isn't paying for the rental; Takata is. It's also not your responsibility to ensure your car doesn't kill you; it's Acura's.

It's up to you how much hassle you want to deal with, but I can guarantee if you don't return the rental and make them tow your car, you won't *have* to pay a dime.

I say "have" like that because some asshole may send you a bill, but I'm sure if you direct it to Acura corporate, they will take care of it. In fact, I would call them anyway and tell them the whole situation and what the service advisor told you. They need to know these things.

rlerman

Id find another dealer. When I got the call my parts were in, they said I could return the rental over the next 3-4 days, whenever it was convenient for me.

RL09

The moment I noticed a dealer isn't shooting straight, even while they had already received my airbag parts in, I canceled the apt. and had the part transferred to another dealer.

schen72

I agree 100%. You can also ask him, if my airbag kills me because I've returned the rental and I have to drive the car, will you put in writing that you will be liable for all damages to my family? I bet that will shut him up. Even better, call Acura Client Relations first and then conference him in and have him repeat what he originally told you.

TampaRLX-SH

^^^ Agree. Why not contact Acura CS and explain the situation (calmly, rationally) as well as the tow experience and damage to your bumper? I would ask if they could help you arrange another dealer get the parts to swap the airbags, arrange the flatbed and take in your rental. Since they already damaged your car, and now are threatening you over a safety matter that you have been VERY patient to get resolved, and add that you are not comfortable this dealer will handle the situation appropriately. I bet Acura CS will open a case and take this on. If you play your tone right, and paint the situation correctly, you should get them to 'rescue' you from an already bad situation.

NathanJax

Well, it's over and done with. I got my car back from Acura today. Road the bike (GSXR-1000) around yesterday and took the RL up to Acura this morning. All done. Just glad to put it behind me. The scratches on the bottom of the bumper aren't really bad enough to go crazy over. It's completely on the bottom and is basically in the same spots as if I were pullign out of a driveway wrong.

Just happy to be back in my car. Miss the HP and the overall driving of it.

tla11384

Man, i'm still waiting. its been 5 months. And the worst part is I back into my hitch with the rental the other day. There goes $500 (deductible) i wasn't planning on spending.

SVTruong

Hey Guys, just got both my airbags replaced, a power steering pump repaired, and oil change at my local dealership. As I was driving home, I noticed my nav screen go "downloading software update" and then it said disk read error. Anybody have any suggestions on what I should do? I called the dealership, but they didn't reply to all my messages.It went bad while my car was at the dealership (two days)... do you think it's related to the repairs? Would they fix it for free?

Thanks,

projektvertx

iTrader: (2)

So wait, it the screen dead? Or did this happen? I think it's possible they forgot to plug something in.

oo7spy

Take the disc out, wipe it with a soft cloth, and put it back in.

Jazzy1999

Got the call today Both Airbags came in appointment Sat morning ...Joy!

TonyCD

Just got the recall. They loaned me an MDX. Nice car, rides sort of pillowy, 3 video screens, exasperatingly needless control complexity, interior a little plasticky, it was free.

Only complaint: They misaligned my glovebox door – it now sticks out grotesquely about a quarter-inch on the left. Is that an easy fix?

Echoe53

My driver side issue has been fixed, the plan was to have both replaced but the dealership is back ordered on the passenger side but at least I get to drive my car again; feels good.

The service advisor I dealt with was really cool, he told me to fill up the tank and drive it until possibly Saturday, luckily it was taken care in a day (Friday).

TonyCD

Epilogue: Dealer fixed the misaligned glovebox door as a quick while-you-wait (I made an appointment first). Techie said it was a bent clip underneath, and he straightened it.

teh CL

iTrader: (1)

Recall finally got done today.


Was in and out within the hour..

DatRL

apparently the dealership has the passenger side inflator but i'm still waiting on the driver side. am i just getting impatient or is it time to start cracking skulls?

rlerman

Call Acura, not the dealer, to complain. Your parts will show up in a few days. May depend on year of your car, earlier vintage cars are most at risk.

RL09

Recall expanded in Canada to passenger airbag inflator as well on RL 05-08.

https://www.acura.ca/Content/acura.c...12_2017_EN.pdf

It seems passenger's from 09 onward were not made by Takata.

teh CL

iTrader: (1)

I already got my letter in the mail to have the passenger side done. Think they could have figured this out while I was there for the driver side.

projektvertx

iTrader: (2)

^It took them nearly a year to remember to include my VIN in the passenger side recall lol

RL09

Takata Corp. Files For Bankruptcy Following Massive Airbag Recall

By Stephen
June 26, 2017

TOKYO – Japan’s Takata Corp, the firm at the center of the auto industry’s biggest ever product recall, filed for bankruptcy protection in the United States and Japan, and said it would be bought for $1.6 billion by U.S.-based rival Key Safety Systems.

In the biggest bankruptcy of a Japanese manufacturer, Takata faces tens of billions of dollars in costs and liabilities resulting from almost a decade of recalls and lawsuits. Its defective airbag inflators have been linked to at least 17 deaths around the world.Deployed Takata manufactured airbags are seen on the driver and passenger side of a 2007 Dodge Charger at a recycled auto parts lot in Detroit, Michigan May 20, 2015. Takata Corp said on Wednesday it plans to boost production of parts needed to replace potentially deadly air bag inflators that could spray vehicle occupants with metal shards. On Tuesday, the Japanese supplier doubled its recall of the defective air bags to nearly 34 million vehicles, making it the largest automotive recall in U.S. history.Takata Americas, its U.S. arm, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in Delaware on Sunday with liabilities of $10 billion to $50 billion, while the Japanese parent and subsidiaries filed for protection with the Tokyo District Court early on Monday.

Takata’s total liabilities stand at 1.7 trillion yen ($15 billion), Tokyo Shoko Research Ltd estimated.

Final liabilities would depend on the outcome of discussions with carmaker customers who have borne the bulk of the replacement costs, a lawyer for the company said.

The filings open the door to the financial rescue by Key Safety Systems (KSS), a Michigan-based parts supplier owned by China’s Ningbo Joyson Electronic Corp.

In a deal that took 16 months to hammer out, KSS agreed to take over Takata’s viable operations, while the remaining operations will be reorganized to continue churning out millions of replacement airbag inflators, the two firms said.

Takata will also receive a $227 million lifeline from its main lender, Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation, in the form a debtor-in-possession financing.

KSS would keep “substantially all” of Takata’s 60,000 employees in 23 countries and maintain its factories in Japan. The deal is meant to allow Takata to continue operating without interruptions and with minimal disruptions to its supply chain.

“We believe taking these actions in Japan and the U.S. is the best way to address the ongoing costs and liabilities of the airbag inflator issues with certainty and in an organized manner,” Takata CEO Shigehisa Takada said in a statement.

Takada said he and top management would resign “when the timing of the restructuring is set”.

His family – which still has control of the 84-year-old company – likely would cease to be shareholders.

Jason Luo, president and CEO of KSS, said in a statement the “underlying strength” of Takata’s business had not diminished despite the airbag recall, citing its skilled employee base, geographic reach and other safety products such as seat belts.

The companies expect to seal definitive agreements for the sale in coming weeks and complete the twin bankruptcy processes in the first quarter of 2018.

The filings have, however, not resolved all issues, as Takata still needs to reach agreements with its carmaker clients on how to divvy up recall costs.

Honda Motor Co, once Takata’s biggest customer, said it had reached no final agreement on responsibilities for the recall. Like other Japanese automakers, Honda said it anticipated difficulties in recovering the bulk of its claims.

“We are already beyond the point where there is room for negotiations or complications,” said Julie Boote, analyst at market researcher Pelham Smithers in London. ”(Automakers) know they’re not getting the money back but need the inflators.”

Takata faces billions in lawsuits and recall-related costs to its clients, including Honda, BMW, Toyota Motor Corp, which have been paying recall costs to date.

It also faces potential liabilities from class action lawsuits in the United States, Canada and other countries.

Global transport authorities have ordered about 100 million inflators to be recalled, as the ammonium nitrate compound used to inflate has been found to become volatile with age and prolonged exposure to heat, causing the devices to explode.

Industry sources have said that recall costs could climb to about $10 billion.

Takata produces roughly one-quarter of all replacement inflators, according to Valient Market Research, making it a significant supplier for now even as many automakers have shunned the company for future contracts.

Recall costs so far have pushed the company into the red for three years, and Monday’s bankruptcy filings marked a low point of a slow and steady downfall of Takata, which was founded as a textiles company in 1933 that used its weaving technology to make lifelines for parachutes.

It began producing airbags in 1987 and at its peak became the world’s No. 2 producer of the safety product. It also produces one-third of all seatbelts used in vehicles sold globally, along with other components.

The Tokyo Stock Exchange said its shares would be delisted on July 27. The stock has collapsed 95 percent since January 2014 as the recalls mounted.

($1 = 111.3000 yen)

AFFECTED VEHICLES (total U.S.-market number in parentheses, if known):

Acura: 2002–2003 3.2TL; 2003 3.2CL; 2003–2006 MDX; 2005–2012 RL; 2007–2016 RDX; 2009–2014 TL and TSX; 2010–2013 ZDX; 2013–2016 ILX (including hybrid)

Audi (more than 387,000): 2004–2009 A4; 2005–2009 S4; 2003–2011 A6; 2006–2013 A3; 2006–2009 A4 cabriolet; 2007–2008 RS4; 2007–2009 S4 cabriolet; 2007–2011 S6; 2008 RS4 cabriolet; 2009–2012, 2015 Q5; 2010–2011 A5 cabriolet; 2010–2012 S5 cabriolet; 2016–2017 TT; 2017 R8

BMW (more than 1.97 million): 2000–2011 3-series sedan; 2000–2012 3-series wagon; 2000–2013 3-series coupe and convertible; 2000–2013 M3 coupe and convertible; 2001–2003 5-series and M5; 2001–2013 X5; 2007–2010 X3; 2008–2013 1-series coupe and convertible; 2008–2011 M3 sedan; 2008–2014 X6 (including hybrid); 2011–2015 X1

Buick: 2015 LaCrosse

Cadillac: 2007–2014 Escalade, Escalade ESV; 2007–2013 Escalade EXT; 2015 XTS

Chevrolet (more than 1.91 million, including Buick, Cadillac, GMC, Saab, and Saturn): 2007–2014 Silverado HD, Suburban, and Tahoe; 2007–2013 Avalanche and Silverado 1500; 2015 Camaro, Equinox, and Malibu

Chrysler: 2005–2015 300; 2006–2008 Crossfire; 2007–2009 Aspen

Daimler: 2006–2009 Dodge Sprinter 2500 and 3500; 2007–2017 Freightliner Sprinter 2500 and 3500; 2008–2009 Sterling Bullet 4500 and 5500

Dodge/Ram (more than 5.64 million, including Chrysler, not including Daimler-built Sprinter): 2003–2008 Ram 1500; 2003–2009 Ram 2500; 2003–2010 Ram 3500; 2004–2009 Durango; 2005–2008 Magnum; 2005–2011 Dakota; 2006–2015 Charger; 2008–2014 Challenger; 2008–2010 Ram 4500 and Ram 5500

Ferrari (more than 2820): 2009–2014 California; 2010–2015 458 Italia; 2012–2016 Ferrari FF; 2012–2015 458 Spider; 2013–2017 Ferrari F12berlinetta; 2014–2015 458 Speciale; 2015 458 Speciale A; 2015–2017 California T; 2016–2017 Ferrari F12tdf, 488GTB, and 488 Spider; 2016 Ferrari F60; 2017 Ferrari GTC4Lusso

Fisker: 2012 Karma

Ford (3 million, including Lincoln and Mercury): 2004–2011 Ranger; 2005–2006 GT; 2005–2014 Mustang; 2006–2012 Fusion; 2007–2010 Edge

GMC: 2007–2014 Sierra HD, Yukon, and Yukon XL; 2007–2013 Sierra 1500; 2015 Terrain

Honda (11.4 million, including Acura): 2001–2012 Accord; 2001–2011 Civic (including hybrid and NGV); 2002–2011, 2016 CR-V; 2002–2004 Odyssey; 2003–2015 Pilot; 2003–2011 Element; 2006–2014 Ridgeline; 2006–2010, 2012 Gold Wing motorcycle; 2007–2013 Fit; 2010–2015 Accord Crosstour; 2010–2014 Insight and FCX Clarity; 2011–2015 CR-Z; 2013–2014 Fit EV

Infiniti: 2001–2004 I30/I35; 2002–2003 QX4; 2003–2008 FX35/FX45; 2006–2010 M35/M45

Jaguar: 2009–2015 XF

Jeep: 2007–2016 Wrangler

Land Rover (more than 68,000): 2007–2012 Range Rover

Lexus: 2002–2010 SC430; 2006–2013 IS; 2007–2012 ES; 2008–2014 IS F; 2010–2015 IS C; 2010–2017 GX; 2010–2015 IS convertible; 2012 LFA

Lincoln: 2006–2012 Lincoln Zephyr and MKZ; 2007–2010 Lincoln MKX

Mazda (more than 733,000): 2003–2011 Mazda 6; 2006–2007 Mazdaspeed 6; 2004–2011 RX-8; 2004–2006 MPV; 2004–2009 B-series; 2007–2012 CX-7; 2007–2015 CX-9

McLaren: 2011–2015 P1; 2012–2014 MP4-12C; 2015–2016 650S; 2016–2017 570; 2016 675LT

Mercedes-Benz (1,044,602, including Daimler): 2005–2014 C-class (excluding C55 AMG but including 2008–2012 C63 AMG); 2007–2008 SLK-class; 2007–2017 Sprinter; 2009–2012 GL-class; 2009–2011 M-class; 2009–2012 R-class; 2010–2011 E-class sedan and wagon; 2010–2017 E-class coupe; 2011–2017 E-class convertible; 2010–2015 GLK-class; 2011–2015 SLS AMG coupe and roadster

Mercury: 2006–2011 Milan

Mitsubishi (more than 105,000): 2004 Lancer Sportback; 2004–2007 Lancer; 2004–2006 Lancer Evolution; 2006–2009 Raider; 2012–2017 iMiEV

Nissan (more than 1,091,000, including Infiniti): 2001–2003 Maxima; 2002–2004 Pathfinder; 2002–2006 Sentra; 2007–2012 Versa

Pontiac (more than 300,000): 2003–2010 Vibe

Saab: 2003–2011 9-3; 2005–2006 9-2X; 2006–2009 9-5

Saturn: 2008–2009 Astra

Scion: 2008–2015 xB

Subaru (more than 380,000): 2003–2014 Legacy and Outback; 2003–2006 Baja; 2004–2011 Impreza; 2006–2014 Tribeca; 2009–2013 Forester; 2012–2014 WRX and WRX STI

Tesla: 2012–2016 Tesla Model S

Toyota (6 million, including Lexus and Scion): 2002–2007 Sequoia; 2003–2013 Corolla and Corolla Matrix; 2003–2006 Tundra; 2004–2005 RAV4; 2006–2012 Yaris; 2010–2016 4Runner; 2011–2014 Sienna

Volkswagen (more than 680,000): 2006–2010, 2012–2014 Passat sedan and wagon; 2009–2017 CC; 2009–2013 GTI; 2010–2014 Jetta SportWagen and Golf; 2010–2014 Eos; 2013 Golf R; 2015 Tiguan

We will update this list as soon as new information is available, but you can access NHTSA’s own running tally of affected vehicles here. For further information about your specific vehicle, go to the manufacturer’s consumer website or use NHTSA’s VIN-lookup tool.
http://knowrecall.com/takata-corp-fi...airbag-recall/

projektvertx

iTrader: (2)

No surprises from my end It was only a matter of time before it caught up to them. Kind of makes you wonder what went thru upper management' minds when they say the data and said " Data? To hell with it, send it!". I guess they never thought they would get caught

JayRL

Does your 2009 RL have the propeller shaft whine that the previous years suffer from when cold? I have an 05 RL with the issue and I am wondering if te issue was fixed on 09

projektvertx

iTrader: (2)

Bump, did anyone else get a notice in the mail about a settlement about this recall?

RL09

Hmmm... There was a whine recently that some sugested is low power steering fluid. I haven't topped it up, but i dont hear the whine anymore, i think. Gonna pay attention again.


What did you get?

RL09

and I agreed with you 6 pages later

projektvertx

iTrader: (2)

I was asked to file a claim here:

https://www.autoairbagsettlement.com/en

If this actually materializes, I wouldn't expect more than 30 cents to be honest.

RL09

After a painful 30 mins convo a year ago with a bitch lady at Acura Canada, making feel like shit for getting a free driver side bag, and asking for a passenger replacement too, since im in cold canada, and no incidents have been reported etc. and she said the passenger will never be replaced its manufactured by someone else, and i told her i knew she was lying...

I received in the mail today my notice for changing the passenger inflator.

projektvertx

iTrader: (2)

I really wish you had recorded that conversation and touched base with a lawyer to see if you have a case

RL09

Passenger side done. Took an hour 15. More complicated process than driver side.