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Old 07-30-2018, 11:32 PM
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Leaving Acura

so after my RL got totaled and being harassed with insurance, i've decided to sue insurance company for triple damage.
This is going to be long and lengthy process that will not come to conclusion for a while.

In the meantime, I've decide to ditch Acura/Honda as there is nothing in current lineup that I like.

Instead, I've got 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti-Sport AWD.
Fully loaded w/ MSRP over $56k, 2yr lease with 10k miles per year.
Paying just over $400/mo & $3000 at the pickup.


Old 07-31-2018, 12:07 AM
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God damn. I pay 365 a month for my RL with 2k down. Granted i own it after but....damn lmfao
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nice interior! hope you win the litigation!
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WOW, quite a shift off the mainstream! Enjoy. Insurance issue, an uphill BATTLE, maybe worth the effort, maybe not! Have fun with your 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti-Sport AWD. Looks like a lotta car to me.
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WOW, quite a shift off the mainstream! Enjoy. Insurance issue, an uphill BATTLE, maybe worth the effort, maybe not! Have fun with your 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti-Sport AWD. Looks like a lotta car to me.
Thanks, it's hell of car.
has mechanical LSD as well.
waiting for Potenza RE-11's to arrive, supposedly last set available from tirerack.
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God damn. I pay 365 a month for my RL with 2k down. Granted i own it after but....damn lmfao
my RL was fully paid off several years ago.
not making car payment is awesome, but i just don't know the long term reliability w/ Alfa, so I decided to lease instead.
besides, it's deal that i couldn't pass on at that payment level on 57k car
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Not having a car payment is awesome lol, but that’s a great pickup! I love the way these cars look!

I recently went thru my own insurance battle, contested the value given to me for my totaled Camry. Definitely an uphill battle but I came out on top! Good luck! Yours was the one that was hit while parked and they told you it was a false claim right?
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Originally Posted by projektvertx
Not having a car payment is awesome lol, but that’s a great pickup! I love the way these cars look!

I recently went thru my own insurance battle, contested the value given to me for my totaled Camry. Definitely an uphill battle but I came out on top! Good luck! Yours was the one that was hit while parked and they told you it was a false claim right?
yeah, they said i reversed on to large object. if that was the case, the side of car/damage should have swirl mark as it was in motion, especially the wheel.
but damage is shown as straight line which means vehicle was standing still.
i f**king hate insurance company.
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Originally Posted by projektvertx
Not having a car payment is awesome lol, but that’s a great pickup! I love the way these cars look!

I recently went thru my own insurance battle, contested the value given to me for my totaled Camry. Definitely an uphill battle but I came out on top! Good luck! Yours was the one that was hit while parked and they told you it was a false claim right?
+1 right here!
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Originally Posted by xc1097
my RL was fully paid off several years ago.
not making car payment is awesome, but i just don't know the long term reliability w/ Alfa, so I decided to lease instead.
besides, it's deal that i couldn't pass on at that payment level on 57k car
While I can believe it is a blast to drive one, not sure of payment that high for specs of this car...
2.0L turbo engine - 280hp @ 5200rpms - torque 306 @2000rpms - mpg 23/31 - 8spd automatic (hoping it is not ZF one )
$400/mo + $3000 down (or whatever fees that 3G includes) - that comes out to effective $525/mo... steep for sure...

One really smart move is doing the 24month lease - not the 3yr one or longer
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Originally Posted by rl015
While I can believe it is a blast to drive one, not sure of payment that high for specs of this car...
2.0L turbo engine - 280hp @ 5200rpms - torque 306 @2000rpms - mpg 23/31 - 8spd automatic (hoping it is not ZF one )
$400/mo + $3000 down (or whatever fees that 3G includes) - that comes out to effective $525/mo... steep for sure...

One really smart move is doing the 24month lease - not the 3yr one or longer
steep? not sure imo
TLX with MSRP of $39,195 is asking $409/mo for 36month & $3000 due at signing, not including tax/reg/title/etc.
sure you can negotiate it down, but I didn't get great lease deal from acura, not that I was interested to begin with.
Giulia's residual value after 24mo = 59%. $57k MSRP * 0.41 = $23370/24 = $973.75 not including tax/reg/title/etc

yes it does have 8speed ZF, which is far superior than 9speed ZF found in acura
program/logic is different from my F-Type & BMW's that use them but it's tried & tested to be effective.
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In what I've seen, the 8 speed ZF seems to be much better than it's 9 speed counterpart which was nothing but issues in every manufacturer that's used it...
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Originally Posted by projektvertx
In what I've seen, the 8 speed ZF seems to be much better than it's 9 speed counterpart which was nothing but issues in every manufacturer that's used it...
I like the program logic on Jaguar/BMW better than alfa's tbh.
Jag's ZF has dynamic/normal/snow mode and when you put the lever to left, it bumps to setting higher in 'Sport' which also shifts for you if you don't want to play with pedals.
Alfa's ZF has Dynamic/normal/advanced efficiency mode and manual mode if you flick it to left.

car is great but it's tad too quite for a sport sedan. needs active exhaust or something.
want to do stuff to it but it being 2yr lease, i will stick with tint & potenza re-11 only. supposedly very last set available from tirerack as they are discontinued.
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Originally Posted by xc1097
steep? not sure imo
TLX with MSRP of $39,195 is asking $409/mo for 36month & $3000 due at signing, not including tax/reg/title/etc.
sure you can negotiate it down, but I didn't get great lease deal from acura, not that I was interested to begin with.
Giulia's residual value after 24mo = 59%. $57k MSRP * 0.41 = $23370/24 = $973.75 not including tax/reg/title/etc

yes it does have 8speed ZF, which is far superior than 9speed ZF found in acura
program/logic is different from my F-Type & BMW's that use them but it's tried & tested to be effective.
You are right - I for some odd reason was thinking on 9spd ZF trans...
For 525$, why not go with '18 Infiniti Red Sport 400? Could have leased it for about that money and have 400hp under the hood...
One thing I am certain is that Alfa's tuning is really good - so hp # may seem low, but the feeling is probably a blast to drive it.
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You are right - I for some odd reason was thinking on 9spd ZF trans...
For 525$, why not go with '18 Infiniti Red Sport 400? Could have leased it for about that money and have 400hp under the hood...
One thing I am certain is that Alfa's tuning is really good - so hp # may seem low, but the feeling is probably a blast to drive it.
#1. Q50RS is much higher in numbers and feels quicker in butt dyno. not as fast in real world.
#2. Q50RS, lease deal wasn't as aggressive/attractive as Giulia. I only wanted 2yr, Infiniti insisted 39 month.
#3. Insurance played big factor. I got a multiple quote from different carriers and Q50's premium was 2x the cost on Giulia. One company wanted $4200/yr vs $2150/yr on Giula, while Ameriprise thru Costco quote me
$1360/yr on Giulia vs $2500/yr on Q50RS.

Yes, Giulia's tuning is outstanding. The car is super solid as well, doesn't feel as fast as it is, but speedo says otherwise.
I've test drove 2x each at different dealerships of same kind of following
BMW: 330xi/340xi/430xi/440xi
MB: C300 4matic/C43 AMG 4matic
Jaguar: XE 25t/35t/S
Audi: A4 Quattro Prestige/S4
Infiniti: Q50S/Q50RS
Lexus: is200t/is350
Volvo: S60 T5/T6
Acura: TLX Aspec

Narrowed down to following: Giulia Ti-Sport Q4 / S4 / 340xi M-sport pkg / XE-S / Q50RS / C43 AMG

with options and etc, all of above cars MSRP was way over $65k with exception of Giulia & Q50.
did numbers with dealers and giulia was best bang for buck, unique to market, so that's how I ended up with it.
I'm waiting for arrival of RE-11 from tirerack which they claim it's very last set they had.
Once the car's broken in, i can't wait to go for a track day with it.

also check this link.
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/alfa...60-comparison/
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