Using Fog Lights as Daytime running lights
#1
Using Fog Lights as Daytime running lights
I recently got a 2014 RDX tech and i am thinking about using the fog lights as DRL so I can use a whiter lights on the fogs.
Does anyone have experience with this wiring process or what needs to be done?
Thanks.
Does anyone have experience with this wiring process or what needs to be done?
Thanks.
#2
I have a 2014 and as far as I know, the DTR's are only on in the daytime, and they switch off when it gets dark and the HIDs take over. If this is the case (pls confirm), i don't see why you couldn't just do the following:
1. Unplug the connector from the back of the DTRs as well as the fog lights. .
2. Using an ohmmeter, confirm that there is less than 1 ohm between the ground wire for the DTR and the ground wire for the fog.
2. Using proper connection techniques, (like soldering, do not use those little plastic snap-down tee connectors or butt splices that you crimp) patch into the +12 volt wire at (or close to) the DTR connector and run a new wire (16-18 gauge) to the +12 volt wire on the fog light, patching into it..
3. Repeat for the other side and leave the connectors on the back of the DTRs disconnected.
Now if I was doing this, I would first confirm how much current is drawn by the DTRs and compare that to the current drawn by the fogs. (You can also compare power ratings for the bulbs) If the fogs draw more current by ...lets say 20% or more, (or 20% more wattage if comparing power rating) then you run the risk of overheating the wiring that was going to the DTRs or exceeding the current rating for the relay that energizes them, so, do not do it.
if all this seems like mumbo-jumbo, or you are not comfortable working with wiring connections, ignore and forget about a DIY approach.
1. Unplug the connector from the back of the DTRs as well as the fog lights. .
2. Using an ohmmeter, confirm that there is less than 1 ohm between the ground wire for the DTR and the ground wire for the fog.
2. Using proper connection techniques, (like soldering, do not use those little plastic snap-down tee connectors or butt splices that you crimp) patch into the +12 volt wire at (or close to) the DTR connector and run a new wire (16-18 gauge) to the +12 volt wire on the fog light, patching into it..
3. Repeat for the other side and leave the connectors on the back of the DTRs disconnected.
Now if I was doing this, I would first confirm how much current is drawn by the DTRs and compare that to the current drawn by the fogs. (You can also compare power ratings for the bulbs) If the fogs draw more current by ...lets say 20% or more, (or 20% more wattage if comparing power rating) then you run the risk of overheating the wiring that was going to the DTRs or exceeding the current rating for the relay that energizes them, so, do not do it.
if all this seems like mumbo-jumbo, or you are not comfortable working with wiring connections, ignore and forget about a DIY approach.
#3
Thanks Skidoor. If I am going to switch it, I will put LED bulbs in the fogs so it will draw less than Halogen while still meeting the LED's requirement. Because the fog is low and has a cutoff it won't blind drivers.
#6
#7
My Murano used the fogs as the DTRs which they did like that for a year or 2.
I may get the blue LED upgrades that are available for the DTR/high beams if I can just swap the lamps, I saw something about a possible wiring kit that may be needed, I still need to check into that.
So are you still going to try to switch to the fogs?
I may get the blue LED upgrades that are available for the DTR/high beams if I can just swap the lamps, I saw something about a possible wiring kit that may be needed, I still need to check into that.
So are you still going to try to switch to the fogs?
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#9
As far as the high beam is concerned I don't think there is any aftermarket LED light bulb currently available which would work as replacement for the factory halogens (in terms of beam pattern/ safety and ability to see as designed).
#10
I am interested to see how it turns out. My concern is that putting an LED bulb in the housing meant for halogen (in fogs) could mean completely different light pattern and / no cut off and may blind the oncoming drivers.
As far as the high beam is concerned I don't think there is any aftermarket LED light bulb currently available which would work as replacement for the factory halogens (in terms of beam pattern/ safety and ability to see as designed).
As far as the high beam is concerned I don't think there is any aftermarket LED light bulb currently available which would work as replacement for the factory halogens (in terms of beam pattern/ safety and ability to see as designed).
I will share my findings once I gave it a try.
#11
I am interested to see how it turns out. My concern is that putting an LED bulb in the housing meant for halogen (in fogs) could mean completely different light pattern and / no cut off and may blind the oncoming drivers.
As far as the high beam is concerned I don't think there is any aftermarket LED light bulb currently available which would work as replacement for the factory halogens (in terms of beam pattern/ safety and ability to see as designed).
As far as the high beam is concerned I don't think there is any aftermarket LED light bulb currently available which would work as replacement for the factory halogens (in terms of beam pattern/ safety and ability to see as designed).
#12
Of course you can find plenty of LED bulbs to fit the housing and work, but the important aspect is light pattern which I'm skeptical about. If it can replicate the OEM halogen pattern or even better it, I'm all for it. So far no one has posted a comparable picture even though many have claimed that the light and visibility is better.
#14
Drifting
Can you post a picture of the light pattern on a vertical wall 25 feet and 100 feet away at night. It would be awesome if you can do that with one side still on the original halogens to make it a sort of valid comparison.
Of course you can find plenty of LED bulbs to fit the housing and work, but the important aspect is light pattern which I'm skeptical about. If it can replicate the OEM halogen pattern or even better it, I'm all for it. So far no one has posted a comparable picture even though many have claimed that the light and visibility is better.
Of course you can find plenty of LED bulbs to fit the housing and work, but the important aspect is light pattern which I'm skeptical about. If it can replicate the OEM halogen pattern or even better it, I'm all for it. So far no one has posted a comparable picture even though many have claimed that the light and visibility is better.
That said, I never took a before shot, so I cant compare it. and before the pro-OEM-or-nothing posters come in and say that the housing wasnt designed for LED - yes I know, yes it diffuses the light all over the place and yes its not a good factory replacement and it would have been technically better to leave the halogen in the housing. Heck I have HIDs on the fogs so I've heard the same shebang before.
But my wife wanted to get rid of the yellow DRL, and being a light nut myself, I didnt hesitate to do my research and found one that was a direct fit, no splicing, no resistors, etc. essentially plug and play. AND you don't lose high beam functionality.
Pros - it definitely is brighter and throws out more light than the reflector can handle. during the day, it looks like the RDX has HIDs on the DRL sockets. It's THAT bright.
Cons - well it wasnt designed for it, so its stupid bright. plus it was expensive. but imo its worth it.
I will try and take pics later and post it here.
#15
I couldn't resist the same urge. Ordered LEDs on eBay for my DRLs the other day, and they also are advertised as not needing resistors etc etc. and will not throw a code or flicker etc.
#16
Drifting
The ones I got plug onto a small module similar to the slim ballast on an HID kit. does yours have the same? if its just a bulb by itself it wont be as bright most likely.
#17
just in case. If I wasnt on my mobile I would post the link to the ad.
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#22
Before any of you install the bulbs...please please please take comparable pictures (before and after) of your halogen bulbs and LEDs...... not looking at the car from a distance (yes I've seen so many people do that ) but facing forwards at the light pattern on a vertical wall 25ft, and 100 ft away ... preferable one side still halogen for the best comparison....
Any other opinions and pictures are also welcome. .
Any other opinions and pictures are also welcome. .
#23
Drifting
Ok so here are the pics I promised.
I shot these, especially the two that show both regular and high beam on, at the same ISO, shutter speed and aperture so its as close to an actual comparison as you can get.
here is an upfront shot:
front quarter view:
this is the actual range. that distance to the trailer is about 3 houses down. so maybe 70 to 90 feet? didn't really measure but the houses should give some distance perception.
this is at regular power, with the engine on and the DRL running as designed. both this and the high beam shot were both shot with the same settings of 1/25 second at F/2.8 ISO 6400 at 17mm
this is with the LED DRL switched on the high beam mode. note the huge difference in brightness.
I shot these, especially the two that show both regular and high beam on, at the same ISO, shutter speed and aperture so its as close to an actual comparison as you can get.
here is an upfront shot:
front quarter view:
this is the actual range. that distance to the trailer is about 3 houses down. so maybe 70 to 90 feet? didn't really measure but the houses should give some distance perception.
this is at regular power, with the engine on and the DRL running as designed. both this and the high beam shot were both shot with the same settings of 1/25 second at F/2.8 ISO 6400 at 17mm
this is with the LED DRL switched on the high beam mode. note the huge difference in brightness.
Last edited by sixsixfour; 05-21-2017 at 11:23 PM.