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Old 11-03-2017, 03:35 PM
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An Argument For Buying Pre-Owned

I just received the annual license renewal for my 2017 RDX. The great state of Arizona wants to bleed me for $623 and change. This is the first 'new' car the bride and I have purchased in decades and now I remember why.

So, what does your state charge for the annual license tag and what year is your RDX?

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Old 11-03-2017, 04:51 PM
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$120 per year. Just another tax grab for politicians to pi$$ away your money. Don't get me started.
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Originally Posted by Gadgetjq
The great state of Arizona wants to bleed me for $623 and change.
I take it that includes some form of state-run liability insurance.
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2013 and $75.00.Sounds like Your state is charging based on vehicle value, like Minnesota.
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Originally Posted by Tech
I take it that includes some form of state-run liability insurance.
Sadly, no it's just the tag fee for a 1 year old 40 thousand dollar (and change) car. It's also one reason so many Arizona drivers are sporting out of state plates! The good news is the fee drops each year as the value of the car falls. If I'd purchased a two-year-old lease return the tag fee would have been far lower.

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We paid $658 to Massachusetts for the "Excise tax" shortly after we bought the new RDX.

That was shortly after we paid $2,586.63 in "sales tax".

Grrrr.
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Originally Posted by Tech
I take it that includes some form of state-run liability insurance.
Not hardly. It's mostly tax based on the supposed value of the vehicle and goes down every year. My 2014 cost about $300 this year. It pays for all the great roads & other state services we get.
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Even with the extra taxes, I still buy new.
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Here in Kommunist Kalifornia, to me it isn't about buying used or buying new. It is about valuing the car. If I buy a used 911 Turbo for 120,000$ vs a new MDX for $50,000, my MDX will be cheaper.

Sometimes, if you don't buy from dealer, you can "adjust" the prices on the title to pay less tax

I decided 5 years ago, I didn't want to pay CA anymore. So I have everything registered in Montana. Whether I buy new or old, no emissions, life time plate, and no tax. F U CALI!
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Originally Posted by Gadgetjq
It's also one reason so many Arizona drivers are sporting out of state plates!
You are lucky you can do that. Where I live, that would not be legal.
Does that mean you can also get insurance elsewhere and pay less or do they look at where you live and work?
Old 11-04-2017, 11:20 PM
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F U CALI!
So tell us, how do you really feel?
I wish we could do that.
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You are lucky you can do that. Where I live, that would not be legal.
Does that mean you can also get insurance elsewhere and pay less or do they look at where you live and work?
It isn't legal for Arizona full time residents (though certainly not unheard of) but about half the year we're awash in "snowbirds." People come to the desert for the beautiful weather from about October through April and most have a home in another state so register there and keep their out of state driver's license too. I don't know how they handle their insurance.
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17 RDX bought in Feb before WA raised the licensing fees - but for 2018 I bet it will be close to $900. THe excise tax is deductible if you itemize your taxes. I don't care I still buy new
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Im from Washington and my wife has the 2016 RDX, she paid around $600 for her tabs. It's high in our state because the voters chose to raise vehicle tabs to help support the light-rail infrastructure expansion. Now they are regretting it and want it back to the old fee. However, the state bases tab prices off the original MSRP and not the current value so you can still pay a lot even if you drive an older car. Drivers with vehicles around $100k are paying $1000+/year for their tabs.
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if you purchase from a dealer in georgia you get charged a higher tax up front and then every tag renewal is $25 a year after that. If you buy privately they charge you the tax when you renew the tag or if you move to georgia. My 2001 Nissan xterra in 2012 cost me $480 when i got a Georgia tag for it. (not cheap for a cheap vehicle)
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In NH, there is no sales tax (yay!) but car registration is a multi-year payment "plan" to essentially get that tax money out of your pocket. Annual registration is made of two components. First is the state plate fee, which is typically around $50/year (based on size/weight of vehicle, with add-ons if you have a vanity plate, etc). The second component is the "town fee", which is essentially an excise tax. That tax is based on a rolling scale that reduces in "cost per thousand" each year, based on the MSRP of the vehicle that is published by the state. For a car like the RDX with a list of over $40K, your first year plate "tax" would be nearly $700. The next year it drops to around $600, and similar drops until it hits a "bottom out" level after 7 or so years (typically around $100/yr).

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Originally Posted by auskip07
if you purchase from a dealer in georgia you get charged a higher tax up front and then every tag renewal is $25 a year after that. If you buy privately they charge you the tax when you renew the tag or if you move to georgia. My 2001 Nissan xterra in 2012 cost me $480 when i got a Georgia tag for it. (not cheap for a cheap vehicle)
Yep- this TAVT method started in 2013. The current rate is 7% when a car is sold. Once you pay this amount(new or used and private sale or dealer) you only pay a 20 tag fee each subsequent year. The old style was ad valorem which adjusted each year on the value of the car. The crappy part is I have a car which fell under the TAVT when I bought it in 2013 (at a lower 6.5% rate at that time) but my 2006 M Roadster, which was purchased in 2009, remains under the old style and I have to pay about 300 each year. Seems like what should happen is when you reach the current amount for TAVT you should stop paying. You can't even pay the current TAVT to stop the bleeding. The only way to stop it is to sell the car to someone else.
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2013 and $75.00.Sounds like Your state is charging based on vehicle value, like Minnesota.
I am from Minnesota and this guy knows what's up. They recently changed our DMV tax service, it's now set as a percentage of the current value of the vehicle.




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