2018 Acura RDX
#44
mrgold35
It can vary between 5 to 7 years on average.
7 years: 2000-2006 & 2007-2013 MDX
+4 years so far: 2014-? MDX (4th gen MDX might be anywhere between 2020-2022), the 2022 version in name; but, not in the actual year it is released.
6 years: 2007-2012 RDX
+5 years so far: 2013-2017 (might be a current 2nd gen 2018 RDX and the all new 3rd gen in 2019 or 2020 in name version)
5 years: 2004-2008 TSX
6 years: 2009-2014 TSX
5 years: 2004-2008 TL
6 years: 2009-2014 TL
2005-2009: 5 years (launched in 2004 as a 2005 version, so really 6 years)
2010-2012: 3 years before they killed it for the RLX in 2013 as a 2014 model
RL could be counted as a 9 year run depending if you count the 2010 as a MMC or all new model.
7 years: 2000-2006 & 2007-2013 MDX
+4 years so far: 2014-? MDX (4th gen MDX might be anywhere between 2020-2022), the 2022 version in name; but, not in the actual year it is released.
6 years: 2007-2012 RDX
+5 years so far: 2013-2017 (might be a current 2nd gen 2018 RDX and the all new 3rd gen in 2019 or 2020 in name version)
5 years: 2004-2008 TSX
6 years: 2009-2014 TSX
5 years: 2004-2008 TL
6 years: 2009-2014 TL
2005-2009: 5 years (launched in 2004 as a 2005 version, so really 6 years)
2010-2012: 3 years before they killed it for the RLX in 2013 as a 2014 model
RL could be counted as a 9 year run depending if you count the 2010 as a MMC or all new model.
Last edited by mrgold35; 05-23-2017 at 07:29 AM.
#47
mrgold35
Example of this is my 2006 TSX because it is 99% identical to the 2007/2008 TSX except for TPMS and bluebook value. You will save $$ just going for a low miles 2006 TSX compared to a 2007 or 2008 with the same mileage.
Last edited by mrgold35; 05-23-2017 at 08:33 AM.
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Stylish, Swift and Comfortable: The 2018 Acura RDX Arrives in Showrooms Tomorrow
May 25, 2017 - TORRANCE, Calif.
The 2018 Acura RDX arrives in dealer showrooms tomorrow with a Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) starting at $35,800. The stylish, swift and comfortable RDX offers a polished yet dynamic driving experience, room for five adults and a long list of desirable features including available AcuraWatch™ safety and driver-assistive technologies and a smooth, powerful V6 engine as standard equipment. The 2018 RDX continues to be one of the most balanced SUVs, in terms of dynamic performance and fuel efficiency, in its segment.
The 2018 Acura RDX is powered by a 3.5-liter SOHC i-VTEC® V6 engine with Variable Cylinder Management™ (VCM™) producing peak output of 279 horsepower (SAE net) and 252 lb.-ft. of torque (SAE net). Abundant mid-range torque endows the RDX with a responsive yet unstressed driving character, while the Variable Cylinder Management™ system helps the RDX to earn EPA fuel economy ratings of 20/28/233 mpg for front-drive models, and 19/27/223 mpg when equipped with all-wheel drive.
The AcuraWatch™ suite of technologies is available as a standalone option on the base model and with the Technology Package, and is standard equipment with the Advance Package. Acura recently surpassed the 100,000-unit mark in U.S. sales of vehicles that include AcuraWatch™, with RDX representing approximately 30 percent of those sales. The RDX AcuraWatch™ suite includes:
- Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC)
- Collision Mitigation Braking System™ (CMBS™)
- Forward Collision Warning (FCW)
- Lane Departure Warning (LDW)
- Lane Keeping Assist System (LKAS)
Stylish, Swift and Comfortable: The 2018 Acura RDX Arrives in Showrooms Tomorrow - Honda News
#51
Carbon Bronze Pearl 2008
Stylish, Swift and Comfortable: The 2018 Acura RDX Arrives in Showrooms Tomorrow
May 25, 2017 - TORRANCE, Calif.
The 2018 Acura RDX arrives in dealer showrooms tomorrow with a Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) starting at $35,800. The stylish, swift and comfortable RDX offers a polished yet dynamic driving experience, room for five adults and a long list of desirable features including available AcuraWatch™ safety and driver-assistive technologies and a smooth, powerful V6 engine as standard equipment. The 2018 RDX continues to be one of the most balanced SUVs, in terms of dynamic performance and fuel efficiency, in its segment.
The 2018 Acura RDX is powered by a 3.5-liter SOHC i-VTEC® V6 engine with Variable Cylinder Management™ (VCM™) producing peak output of 279 horsepower (SAE net) and 252 lb.-ft. of torque (SAE net). Abundant mid-range torque endows the RDX with a responsive yet unstressed driving character, while the Variable Cylinder Management™ system helps the RDX to earn EPA fuel economy ratings of 20/28/233 mpg for front-drive models, and 19/27/223 mpg when equipped with all-wheel drive.
The AcuraWatch™ suite of technologies is available as a standalone option on the base model and with the Technology Package, and is standard equipment with the Advance Package. Acura recently surpassed the 100,000-unit mark in U.S. sales of vehicles that include AcuraWatch™, with RDX representing approximately 30 percent of those sales. The RDX AcuraWatch™ suite includes:
- Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC)
- Collision Mitigation Braking System™ (CMBS™)
- Forward Collision Warning (FCW)
- Lane Departure Warning (LDW)
- Lane Keeping Assist System (LKAS)
Stylish, Swift and Comfortable: The 2018 Acura RDX Arrives in Showrooms Tomorrow - Honda News
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Hehehe, the footnotes didn't survive the copypasta from Honda News...
1. Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) excluding tax, license, registration, $975 destination charge and options. Dealer prices may vary.
2. Based on IHS Markit, U.S. Retail new vehicle registrations by volume for all models in Luxury SUV and CUV segments 2012CY - 2016CYTD through December.
3. 2018 EPA fuel economy ratings. Use for comparison purposes only. Your mileage will vary depending on how you drive and maintain your vehicle, driving conditions and other factors.
1. Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) excluding tax, license, registration, $975 destination charge and options. Dealer prices may vary.
2. Based on IHS Markit, U.S. Retail new vehicle registrations by volume for all models in Luxury SUV and CUV segments 2012CY - 2016CYTD through December.
3. 2018 EPA fuel economy ratings. Use for comparison purposes only. Your mileage will vary depending on how you drive and maintain your vehicle, driving conditions and other factors.
#54
The one picture of the 2018 RDX is from the rear......apparently no change in the grill to the pentagon? The lack of info suggests no changes for 2018?
#56
mrgold35
I hope this is the last version of the 2nd Gen RDX. I've always thought the RDX was too early to the redesign party and it seems to be always playing catch-up to current models in either exterior and/or interior design and tech. I can see the 3rd Gen RDX being released finally with the new grill and updated exterior tweaks; but, with same old 2nd Gen tech (maybe Carplay added). We still have to wait until the 3rd Gen RDX MMC in 2022 for anything current like similar 4th Gen MDX styling, updated awd, new dash design, new engine/transmission, hybrid tech, etc...
I'm looking to replace my 1st Gen RDX in the next 12-24 months (+140,000 miles and still running really strong with Hondata+ETS intercooler). I'm really starting to think I'm better off going for an used +MMC 3rd Gen MDX tech/adv with sh-awd instead of waiting for Acura to figure out what they are doing.
I'm looking to replace my 1st Gen RDX in the next 12-24 months (+140,000 miles and still running really strong with Hondata+ETS intercooler). I'm really starting to think I'm better off going for an used +MMC 3rd Gen MDX tech/adv with sh-awd instead of waiting for Acura to figure out what they are doing.
#58
Acura should look at Cadillac and see how they are trying hard to break the mould and assert themselves fiercely in the luxury segment.....and it shows.
At present Acura is doing something like Lincoln and Buick as in simply adding bling to existing Honda lineup. I hope they realize how hard it'll be for them to regain the luxury market once they get kicked out of it.
At present Acura is doing something like Lincoln and Buick as in simply adding bling to existing Honda lineup. I hope they realize how hard it'll be for them to regain the luxury market once they get kicked out of it.
#59
08 PMM/Black Tech
Acura has no interest in competing in the luxury market. They've been there, done that, and got their sorry asses handed to them. TL(x), RL(x), early MDX etc... They're competing in the premium market. Think Infiniti, well optioned VW, and definitely the new Genesis line from Hyundai. Mazda is also trying to move up market into this segment.
#60
Acura has no interest in competing in the luxury market. They've been there, done that, and got their sorry asses handed to them. TL(x), RL(x), early MDX etc... They're competing in the premium market. Think Infiniti, well optioned VW, and definitely the new Genesis line from Hyundai. Mazda is also trying to move up market into this segment.
#61
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Acura has no interest in competing in the luxury market. They've been there, done that, and got their sorry asses handed to them. TL(x), RL(x), early MDX etc... They're competing in the premium market. Think Infiniti, well optioned VW, and definitely the new Genesis line from Hyundai. Mazda is also trying to move up market into this segment.
These days, if you get a fully loaded non-luxury brand, whether it is Honda or Toyota or Volkswagen etc, the fully loaded vehicles in most cases would be better than the entry level vehicles of the luxury brand and almost as good as the fully loaded luxury vehicles. For example, a fully loaded Toyota Avalon is better than a base Lexus ES350, a fully loaded volkswagen is better than a base Audi, and a fully loaded Accord is better than a base Acura TLX, etc.
I have close friends who own various other luxury vehicles such as Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus, Jaguar, etc and I can tell you a fully loaded Acura RDX can compete with any of them. Many features of the RDX exceed the competitors, for example the ELS sound system is the best out there. The RDX is one of the fastest SUVs (6.2 sec 0 to 60). It only lacks a few luxury features such as heated steering wheel, panoramic sunroof, etc.
I could have gotten any of those brands that my friends have but I chose to go with Acura for its overall features, quality and value.
#62
08 PMM/Black Tech
I have been switching between Lexus and Acura for years. As far as buying options and products you're getting, without a doubt Acura is a bargain. But there lie the problem, you are getting bargain bin parts. Dated technologies that are readily available on other well optioned cars. A few generations ago you can walk into an Acura dealer and feel comfortable knowing you're getting a pretty technologically advanced cars. Now a day, you walk in expecting a reliable boring car. They just don't innovate like they used to, they just wait for whatever the OEM suppliers have readily available to slap the car together. All in the name of profit margin. It works great in the short term, but in the long game they'll have to catch up.
#63
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I don't find Acura vehicles boring at all. Reliable yes but not boring. They offer among the best engines and the vehicles are sporty and if you get the fully loaded versions, they have almost all the main technologies available.
#64
Rocky boy in action after a long time. Wonderful . .
#65
mrgold35
My main concern with Acura is they seem to follow instead of leading. Acura always looks to see what others are doing and only adds enough improvements to meet the industry standards 1-2 years later. Acura/Honda have some of the best bang for the buck tech in their parts bin like:
- sh-awd
- sh-sh-awd hybrid tech
- highly rated ELS/Krell sound system that isn't a $2000- $5000 upgrade like other vehicles
- high revving NA engines
- smoothest 6MT around
- sporty suspensions standard
- very reliable I-4 turbo engines since 2007
I would love to see Acura take the lead with the next Gen products to make others chase them for a while like the good old days of Acura.
- sh-awd
- sh-sh-awd hybrid tech
- highly rated ELS/Krell sound system that isn't a $2000- $5000 upgrade like other vehicles
- high revving NA engines
- smoothest 6MT around
- sporty suspensions standard
- very reliable I-4 turbo engines since 2007
I would love to see Acura take the lead with the next Gen products to make others chase them for a while like the good old days of Acura.
#66
08 PMM/Black Tech
My main concern with Acura is they seem to follow instead of leading. Acura always looks to see what others are doing and only adds enough improvements to meet the industry standards 1-2 years later. Acura/Honda have some of the best bang for the buck tech in their parts bin like:
- sh-awd
- sh-sh-awd hybrid tech
- highly rated ELS/Krell sound system that isn't a $2000- $5000 upgrade like other vehicles
- high revving NA engines
- smoothest 6MT around
- sporty suspensions standard
- very reliable I-4 turbo engines since 2007
I would love to see Acura take the lead with the next Gen products to make others chase them for a while like the good old days of Acura.
- sh-awd
- sh-sh-awd hybrid tech
- highly rated ELS/Krell sound system that isn't a $2000- $5000 upgrade like other vehicles
- high revving NA engines
- smoothest 6MT around
- sporty suspensions standard
- very reliable I-4 turbo engines since 2007
I would love to see Acura take the lead with the next Gen products to make others chase them for a while like the good old days of Acura.
#67
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
My main concern with Acura is they seem to follow instead of leading. Acura always looks to see what others are doing and only adds enough improvements to meet the industry standards 1-2 years later. Acura/Honda have some of the best bang for the buck tech in their parts bin like:
- sh-awd
- sh-sh-awd hybrid tech
- highly rated ELS/Krell sound system that isn't a $2000- $5000 upgrade like other vehicles
- high revving NA engines
- smoothest 6MT around
- sporty suspensions standard
- very reliable I-4 turbo engines since 2007
I would love to see Acura take the lead with the next Gen products to make others chase them for a while like the good old days of Acura.
- sh-awd
- sh-sh-awd hybrid tech
- highly rated ELS/Krell sound system that isn't a $2000- $5000 upgrade like other vehicles
- high revving NA engines
- smoothest 6MT around
- sporty suspensions standard
- very reliable I-4 turbo engines since 2007
I would love to see Acura take the lead with the next Gen products to make others chase them for a while like the good old days of Acura.
#68
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
You are so spot on. They could have continued developing the 1G RDX's turbo engine. Nope, dropped it because they think the rest of the industry are going with V6s. Look at it now, everyone is moving to boosted 4 cylinders. You can bet that's what they'll do next. They are so reactive as opposed to being proactive. Always 1 step behind the industry. As beautiful and as advanced as the NSX is, it too is behind the industry standards. The sale numbers don't lie. They have some serious products visionary leadership issues on the top at Acura.
#69
mrgold35
The V6 is way better than the turbo 4 cylinders. Compare the specs of the current RDX to the 2018 Audi Q5. The Audi Q5 has a 4 cylinder engine with 252 horsepower and max speed of 209 km/h and 0 to 100 km/h time of 6.3 seconds. The RDX has a more powerful engine, is faster, and a way higher top speed. You would have to upgrade to the SQ5 (and pay $20,000 more) to beat the RDX's engine.
I would love to see Acura provide engine choices of I4 Turbo, V-6, and sh-sh-awd for the 3rd Gen. The engines are already sitting in the parts bin at Acura/Honda!
#70
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I live at +5,000 feet and travel around 6,500-8,500 feet and as high as 11,000 feet in Colorado (I-70 Eisenhower Pass). A NA 3.5L V-6 will start to feel like a 3.0L or less at those heights. The speed limits varies between 65-80 mph for the interstate hwys out west. My turbo RDX does not miss a beat at those altitudes and provides faster passing speeds compared to my 3.7L MDX. I would really love to have the 3rd Gen RDX with a forced induction V-6 (S/C or Turbo); but, that is never going to happen. I even added 26hp and 33tq with a $300 RDX ECU reflash. Can't add that kind of power bump for $300 for a NA V-6 (would have the same ECU upgrade option with the 3rd Gen turbo engine).
I would love to see Acura provide engine choices of I4 Turbo, V-6, and sh-sh-awd for the 3rd Gen. The engines are already sitting in the parts bin at Acura/Honda!
I would love to see Acura provide engine choices of I4 Turbo, V-6, and sh-sh-awd for the 3rd Gen. The engines are already sitting in the parts bin at Acura/Honda!
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It's safe to say that we all agree with Rockyboy in this aspect.
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#75
mrgold35
I really think Acura will have to add a 3rd or 4th SUV/CUV and/or TLX/ILX wagon/fast back 4-door pretty soon.
Acura: RDX and MDX (maybe HR-V based CDX in +2020)
Lexus: NX, RX, GX and LX
Infiniti: QX30, QX50, QX60, QX70, and QX80
Audi: A4 Allroad, Q3, Q5, and Q7
BMW: X1, X3, X4, X5, X6, along with sport wagons and Gran Turismo
MB: GLA, GLC, GLE, GLS, G-Class and wagons
Again, Acura is late to the party and playing catch up after the rest of market has a foothold established.
I remember Temple of VTEC has some drawings of an ILX and TLX fastbacks. Add the sh-awd and sh-sh-awd powertrains to the 3.5L or turbo engines and it would give us Acura diehards a reason to stay with the brand. I would love to have CUV room and capability in a sporty sedan body. I really think the 2019 3rd Gen RDX will just look like less capable baby version the current 2017 MDX.
Acura: RDX and MDX (maybe HR-V based CDX in +2020)
Lexus: NX, RX, GX and LX
Infiniti: QX30, QX50, QX60, QX70, and QX80
Audi: A4 Allroad, Q3, Q5, and Q7
BMW: X1, X3, X4, X5, X6, along with sport wagons and Gran Turismo
MB: GLA, GLC, GLE, GLS, G-Class and wagons
Again, Acura is late to the party and playing catch up after the rest of market has a foothold established.
I remember Temple of VTEC has some drawings of an ILX and TLX fastbacks. Add the sh-awd and sh-sh-awd powertrains to the 3.5L or turbo engines and it would give us Acura diehards a reason to stay with the brand. I would love to have CUV room and capability in a sporty sedan body. I really think the 2019 3rd Gen RDX will just look like less capable baby version the current 2017 MDX.
Last edited by mrgold35; 06-06-2017 at 11:20 AM.
#77
Burning Brakes
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#78
Burning Brakes
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#79
Pro
See, there you go. If you think it would sell at a $4500 discount then Acura isn't on an "upward trajectory" as you stated. If they are having to heavily discount to make people buy - they aren't doing very well...
#80
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Acura is doing better because their vehicles are improving (latest MDX, RDX, TLX and NSX). The discounts are pretty common across the auto companies eg when they need to move last year's inventory etc. Some companies give equal or greater discounts such as Lexus, Infiniti, etc.