What does this squeaky sound mean?
We have a 2013 RDX FWD, which has had regular maintenance performed. In the last few weeks, we noticed a squeak that seems to come from the front of the car, behind the dash, on the right side. It sounds like a squeaky bed spring and mainly happens when the car goes over bumps or a dip in the road or during a turn. Is this what a bad shock sounds like? Could it be as simple as something needing grease? I do not hear the loud thump that a lot of people complained about. This is a quieter squeak. Thanks,
Gregg |
Usually a bad sway bar link.
They are ultra easy to replace on most cars. |
Thank you for your help. Is that a relatively inexpensive fix? Is this likely from hitting a pot hole, or does the sway bar link just go bad over time? Thanks again,
Gregg |
Originally Posted by vbgregg
(Post 16406028)
Thank you for your help. Is that a relatively inexpensive fix? Is this likely from hitting a pot hole, or does the sway bar link just go bad over time? Thanks again,
Gregg I am not saying it is, but I have replaced these sway bar links early in every car; a few times on my Honda CR-V at about 50K miles and under warranty on my VW Jetta TDI at a mere 24K miles. I now have to replace them on my friend's car with about 50K miles. The come at different lengths depending on the make and model of vehicle. This is a generic video on Youtube. It usually take me 15 minutes a side to replace. For a good chuckle. Whoever invented speed bumps ad from about 20 years ago. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...768d42a019.jpg |
Originally Posted by vbgregg
(Post 16405476)
We have a 2013 RDX FWD, which has had regular maintenance performed. In the last few weeks, we noticed a squeak that seems to come from the front of the car, behind the dash, on the right side. It sounds like a squeaky bed spring and mainly happens when the car goes over bumps or a dip in the road or during a turn. Is this what a bad shock sounds like? Could it be as simple as something needing grease? I do not hear the loud thump that a lot of people complained about. This is a quieter squeak. Thanks,
Gregg It could also be a strut as well...as anywhere you have rubber-like material rubbing against metal, then squeaking can result. For the sway bar end links...if they happen to make any noise at all, it's usually a "popping" type sound of stiction as there is no polyurethane in the ball/socket joint of the end link. Hope that helps. |
Originally Posted by jjrphs
(Post 16406359)
This I think is primarily due to the material they're made from...polyurethane.
I'd love to see a pic of an OEM Acura control arm. |
Originally Posted by Tech
(Post 16406419)
I have never seen a manufacturer use a polyurethane bushing. They are usually used in the aftermarket for those wanting a more direct/stiffer ride. My Honda CR-V used a traditional rubber bushing with the steel sleeve molded within it. Same on my Porsche..
Sway bar end links on the other hand are a ball & socket and tend to pop if they make any noise at all.
Originally Posted by Tech
(Post 16406419)
I'd love to see a pic of an OEM Acura control arm.
Regardless...follow this link 2013 Acura RDX Lower Control Arm Look at Parts Description and you see Lower Control Arm You're Welcome |
Originally Posted by jjrphs
(Post 16406462)
I guess you've never replaced a sway arm bushing...they're definitely not rubber and they definitely do not have a metal insert.
...Sway Bar and/or Control Arm bushings. This I think is primarily due to the material they're made from...polyurethane.
Originally Posted by jjrphs
(Post 16406462)
If your experience is limited to only looking at an Acura parts fiche...then I guess you'd call it an "arm" or "lower arm." Actual Acura and Honda mechanics (and pretty much all mechanics I've communicated with) call it a Lower Control Arm.
If I remember, I'll let you know. My friend's car squeaks and I'll spray the rubber sway bar bushings with silicone spray first, just to be sure. But I am sure it is the links. |
Originally Posted by Tech
(Post 16406580)
If I remember, I'll let you know. My friend's car squeaks and I'll spray the rubber sway bar bushings with silicone spray first, just to be sure. But I am sure it is the links.
My post was meant to point out that squeaks never come from the sway bar end links in my experience and that bushings are usually the culprit. The OP should not limit their search to just end links. |
Originally Posted by jjrphs
(Post 16406635)
My post was meant to point out that squeaks never come from the sway bar end links...
By the way, a bushing in a control arm that is pressed in, the type with a metal outer shell and a metal bushing sleeve rotates about the rubber the two metal items are bonded to. It is why the bolts are tightened when the vehicle is on the ground so that the rubber is not preloaded by a twisting moment (the upper A or control arms on the CR-V). Lower control arms mounted in the same fashion are the same. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...f14fab4799.jpg |
Originally Posted by Tech
(Post 16406647)
Maybe in "your" experience but I would never say "never". They did in my Honda CR-V, where both front and rear where each replaced twice and in the VW Jetta TDI. And they did not clunk or knock.
By the way, a bushing in a control arm that is pressed in, the type with a metal outer shell and a metal bushing sleeve rotates about the rubber the two metal items are bonded to. It is why the bolts are tightened when the vehicle is on the ground so that the rubber is not preloaded by a twisting moment (the upper A or control arms on the CR-V). Lower control arms mounted in the same fashion are the same. Sway bar bushings have no metal inserts. Control arm bushings are "rubber" for a reason...otherwise the bushings would be all steel. And yes, they too will squeak with age. The anecdotes about your friends car, Porsches, Jetta TDIs and even CRVs are nice....as a reminder, the OP has an RDX and you won't find an A-arm on it anywhere, |
Originally Posted by jjrphs
(Post 16406663)
In my experience with Honda/Acura vehicles I've never had sway bar end link squeak.
Originally Posted by jjrphs
(Post 16406663)
Sway bar bushings have no metal inserts.
Originally Posted by jjrphs
(Post 16406663)
Control arm bushings are "rubber" for a reason.
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Originally Posted by Tech
(Post 16407154)
Depends on your ear. Long before they clunk or rattle, they squeak. As in the ball joint was seized. Anyway, replaced on the Honda and all was quiet.
Originally Posted by tech
(Post 16407154)
finally! Because up in post #5, you said they were polyurethane.
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Originally Posted by jjrphs
(Post 16407511)
I guess you totally missed the quotes...like the point of the thread
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UPDATE:
I finally got around to replacing both front sway bar links on my friend's car. The passenger side which made all the noise had almost 60K miles on it which is on the high side for any of them to last. The driver's side was replaced a couple of years ago when the car was in an accident, but it was replaced as well with the slightly used one being kept as a spare. As for the worn out sway bar link, only one joint could detect slight play in it. All quiet now! |
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