New Subaru Outback or CPO RDX?
#1
New Subaru Outback or CPO RDX?
Ive yet to do a deep dive into pricing but I suspect that I can get either of these for about the same price, give or take $2k. Well equipped. I also suspect that the RDX will be worth more after 3–4 years since the nasty 1st and 2nd year depreciation will have been born by the prior owner.
I generally intend to own a car for 3-4 years but keep them for 10!
Any thoughts?
I generally intend to own a car for 3-4 years but keep them for 10!
Any thoughts?
#2
Well financially always buy used. But hard to say, what is your budget? or what trims are you looking at? Both cars will have nice residuals, Subaru probably better but obviously with a lower MSRP to kind of offset it. It also depends on what year and how many miles are on the CPO and how many you tend to drive.
If you keep your cars for that long car values become mute at that point, but rather true cost of ownership which you can calculate on Edmunds. A 2016 Acura RDX AWD Advance used is $33127 cash* which a five year estimate of $48331 with 15K miles a year driven. A 2016 base RDX AWD $29980 cash* price with a $46498 5 year true cost over five years. A 2018 Outback 3.6 Limited $37181 cash price with a true cost of $46295, or 2.5i Base $28158 cash price $37036 true cost over 5 years. So yeah anyway you cut it the Acura will be more expensive to own if you pay cash over the span of 5 years from top trim to base model. I guess the fairest comparison is a CPO RDX AWD Base versus a new 2018 Outback 3.6 Limited since they have the most similar TCTO.
My opinion is a brand new Subaru is probably the safer bet since you get more features and less miles on it.
If you keep your cars for that long car values become mute at that point, but rather true cost of ownership which you can calculate on Edmunds. A 2016 Acura RDX AWD Advance used is $33127 cash* which a five year estimate of $48331 with 15K miles a year driven. A 2016 base RDX AWD $29980 cash* price with a $46498 5 year true cost over five years. A 2018 Outback 3.6 Limited $37181 cash price with a true cost of $46295, or 2.5i Base $28158 cash price $37036 true cost over 5 years. So yeah anyway you cut it the Acura will be more expensive to own if you pay cash over the span of 5 years from top trim to base model. I guess the fairest comparison is a CPO RDX AWD Base versus a new 2018 Outback 3.6 Limited since they have the most similar TCTO.
My opinion is a brand new Subaru is probably the safer bet since you get more features and less miles on it.
#3
Azine Jabroni
Subaru. My opinion will likely change when the 3G RDX starts selling used, but right now that AWD on the Subaru is a lot better than a 2G RDX along with what jrasero said.
#4
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Subie..
#5
Pro
Based on my experience with a 2016 RDX Advanced(currently at 47,500 miles in 2+ yrs) I would strongly suggest the Subaru. I expect you will get better reliability and less headaches. I just picked mine up from my dealer this morning. My SA was telling me his girlfriend drives a Pilot rather than an RDX/MDX due to better features and reliability. He sees all kinds of issues with the RDX. Her Pilot has been flawless. Personally, no more Acura's for me. As others have said, having a brand new car where you know the history is worth some money too. Full factory warranty as well.
#6
Thanks, everyone!
If the plan becomes getting a car every 3ish years then the Subaru is the likely "winner". If, on the other hand, we think we'll keep the car for a long time I will continue researching. The two we have now, '02 Ody and '05 Prius were both supposed to be 3 year cars but obviously that isn't what happened. The Subaru might still come out on top but I need to investigate Toyota and maybe even a 2-3 year old Lexus. Our prius has required nothing other than wear and tear items over 160,000 miles and the same was true for the Camry that preceded it.
Obviously the Lexus is a whole 'nother level of money but if we keep it for 10 years I can justify the expense. Probably. I recently rode in an 8 year old RX300 (?) and was blown away by how good it looked and rode.
I'm just starting the hunt and I know that a number of models will drift in and out of the picture but I'm sure that an Outback will be in it until the end. I've admired them for years.
If the plan becomes getting a car every 3ish years then the Subaru is the likely "winner". If, on the other hand, we think we'll keep the car for a long time I will continue researching. The two we have now, '02 Ody and '05 Prius were both supposed to be 3 year cars but obviously that isn't what happened. The Subaru might still come out on top but I need to investigate Toyota and maybe even a 2-3 year old Lexus. Our prius has required nothing other than wear and tear items over 160,000 miles and the same was true for the Camry that preceded it.
Obviously the Lexus is a whole 'nother level of money but if we keep it for 10 years I can justify the expense. Probably. I recently rode in an 8 year old RX300 (?) and was blown away by how good it looked and rode.
I'm just starting the hunt and I know that a number of models will drift in and out of the picture but I'm sure that an Outback will be in it until the end. I've admired them for years.
#7
Carbon Bronze Pearl 2008
Dmaxdmax, Drive both thoroughly. That's the real key and pick the one you're more comfortable with. I have a 2016 RDX Advance. My aunt bought new a 2017 Subaru Outback 3.6R top of the line. I admit both are really nice vehicles but there are differences. Yes, you can save a ton of money buying the Subaru. But, a CVT trans (barf) not for me. Ride quality and luxury not up to par of the RDX. The tech is pretty good in the Subaru. I know it's got an awesome AWD system. Sadly when it snows my aunt just hibernates and doesn't take it out for "fun"! I'd be like snow! Woohoo! The RDX AWD system in my 2016 RDX honestly hasn't let me down past two winters. It's not bad.
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Dmaxdmax, Drive both thoroughly. That's the real key and pick the one you're more comfortable with. I have a 2016 RDX Advance. My aunt bought new a 2017 Subaru Outback 3.6R top of the line. I admit both are really nice vehicles but there are differences. Yes, you can save a ton of money buying the Subaru. But, a CVT trans (barf) not for me. Ride quality and luxury not up to par of the RDX. The tech is pretty good in the Subaru. I know it's got an awesome AWD system. Sadly when it snows my aunt just hibernates and doesn't take it out for "fun"! I'd be like snow! Woohoo! The RDX AWD system in my 2016 RDX honestly hasn't let me down past two winters. It's not bad.
#9
Pro
Before my daughter decided to go to a cold weather college I thought that our next car was going to be a sedan with a premium placed on smooth comfort and quiet as an antidote to our current, noisy vehicles. I will need the AWD and cargo function 4-8 days per year so for the other 360, which of these feels more like a “car”?
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Carbon Bronze Pearl 2008
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But this is an Acura site...
#12
Azine Jabroni
Well, the Outback and the CR-V aren't really comparable, either. The Forester is the CR-V equivalent. I personally think the 3G RDX looks like a game changer, but currently, I would stick with a Subaru or the CR-V right now.
#13
in '04 I bought the game changing '05 Prius for 500 above MSRP
In '04 I swore that I'd never again be on the bleeding edge of new models.
Probably
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#17
Lost in translation
Dmaxdmax, Drive both thoroughly. That's the real key and pick the one you're more comfortable with. I have a 2016 RDX Advance. My aunt bought new a 2017 Subaru Outback 3.6R top of the line. I admit both are really nice vehicles but there are differences. Yes, you can save a ton of money buying the Subaru. But, a CVT trans (barf) not for me. Ride quality and luxury not up to par of the RDX. The tech is pretty good in the Subaru. I know it's got an awesome AWD system. Sadly when it snows my aunt just hibernates and doesn't take it out for "fun"! I'd be like snow! Woohoo! The RDX AWD system in my 2016 RDX honestly hasn't let me down past two winters. It's not bad.
The 3.6 brings it closer to the 2G RDX, performancewise, but the Acura will still blow the doors off the Subie.
The OP should get the Subie if he wants to be like Carbon's aunt.
#18
Pro
What I said was my Acura SA's wife bought a Pilot rather than an RDX as they are more reliable and have better tech. He mentioned he sees a lot of issues with the RDX.
#19
Lost in translation
Why are you even on this forum any longer, other than to bash Acuras? You even profess the desire to not ever buy one again.
Have fun with your grandma car Subie.
#20
Pro
Won't be buying a Subaru either, but that doesn't stop me from sharing info about the cars I know about.... My next car will be an X3. I am on the forum to balance out some of the fanbois posts
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Personally I would drive all of these cars and see which one fits you best with regards to your driving preferences and needs and go from there.
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Intermediate
I cross-shopped Outback and RDX, and once you got into the Outback Limited (similar equipment to RDX) they were fairly comparably priced even though the RDXs went for a few grand more new!
In the 2-3 year age range, a CPO Acura can be a relative bargain because of lease returns, but a Subie almost has to be bought new because gently used ones are so rare on the market. I ended up going with a '15 RDX in large part because it was easier to get my hands on a good one!
In the 2-3 year age range, a CPO Acura can be a relative bargain because of lease returns, but a Subie almost has to be bought new because gently used ones are so rare on the market. I ended up going with a '15 RDX in large part because it was easier to get my hands on a good one!
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