RDX10

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/04/19/honda-pilot-crossover-short-wheelbase-rumor/

According to several publications Honda is going to unveil a new short wheel base pilot (akin to the Hyundai santa fe XL vs sport) that will only seat 5 passengers. From my predictions, it is going to keep the V6 and the (SH) AWD system from the current pilot.

This means 2 things, first is that if the pilot-mini gets SH-AWD the next gen RDX will too, or if the 3G RDX does not, Honda will hopefully have an option for those of you looking for that.

chickdr

Major assumptions going on here. My prediction is the next gen RDX will have a 2.0T motor(which is a shame). I figure the 5 passenger Pilot will use it too (a la Hyundai who uses a 2.4 I-4 and 2.0T in the Santa Fe Sport and 3.3 V6 in the Santa Fe). It certainly will be interesting to see what happens with the next gen RDX.

justnspace

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honda filed a patent to bring back the "passport" name

BC01191980

Probably they will just facelift the rdx with the new diamond blah grill

Comfy

This. ^. The Honda version of RDX is called CRV.

MTD

Maybe the RDX is growing a bit and will use this SWB Pilot platform instead of the CRV platform. The Honda version being the more basic/less luxurious of the two similar to the current Pilot and MDX.

RDX10

I somewhat doubt this, though there have been confirmed releases from Honda that a 2.0T is coming out and that the next gen accord is not going to have a V6 anymore (really hating that trend by the way). So if that next gen accord does not have a V6 anymore, you can gaurentee that the RDX will not either because for some reason Honda is tying the RDX powertrain to the Accord. I also agree that the SWB pilot will share the same engines.

For some reason I feel like the RDX is larger than the CRV. Not sure if I am correct.

There are rumors that the CDX is coming to north america, if it does, the RDX may grow a little more to compete with the RX and MKX and the CDX will slot below it. I have a feeling the RDX is going to grow a little bit too and I really hope it moves to the MDX-Pilot platform and moves away from the CRV platform. With that platform switch I hope they then return SH-AWD.

colt427

RDX is 3.8" longer and .7 wider.
Wheelbase 1" longer.

chickdr

You do? It sounds like you agree with me that the RDX will have whatever the Accord has for its top power train(which will no longer be a V6) so that would make it a 2.0T - right? The reason the Accord and RDX share power trains is the motors come out of a common plant dead center between the two plants which produce the RDX and Accord in Ohio.

RDX10

Ah, so I am correct in my assumptions! That is what I meant by a Honda version of the RDX (something in beteen the CRV and pilot, like the RDX).

What I doubt is that Honda is going to drop the V6 option in the RDX, but at the same time if the Accord gets a 2.0T like rumoured, then I am in agreement that the RDX will get the 2.0T. So how about we meet in the middle? They keep the V6 and add a 2.0T option from the civic turbo for the top trim of the RDX while growing it a little bit. I don't like turbo 4's very much, but a very strongly tuned turbo 4 (say 300hp/lb/ft in something weighing under 4000 pounds) can be really fun.

There was also a rumour that Acura is going to have a type S trim for the whole lineup. If this is the case, the RDX type S would have that turboed power train as the sport option maybe.

So much speculation. So little solid answers.

chickdr

I hope you are correct. If the V6 is continued it seems unlikely it would be the current version as it seems at the end of its lifespan and is not being used in anything "current". I could see the DI V6 being used, but then again, they don't build that motor in OH so it wouldn't be very efficient. As you said, no solid answers yet. I am surprised so little is known about the 3rd gen RDX as it has to be well along in its development.

RDX10

I am almost guaranteeing the V6 will stay. Just look at the other options in the class. Almost all of them have V6's (forced induction or not). That includes q5, glc, X3, srx, mkx, qx50, rx, macan, jaguar....on and on and on. I really do not see Acura putting in some of the fire breathing V6 engines like the competition (superchargers, twin turbos...etc) but to most of us, a standard V6 putting up a respectable 6.0s 0-60 is enough. If they can drop in a 8 speed or DCT and then upgrade the V6 with DI and up the power a little bit or even drop in the MDX hybrid power train, that 0-60 will drop quite a bit (maybe even to the low 5's or high 4's) and that would be very nice and competitive enough.

I sometimes think it would be awesome to have 3.6s 0-60 like some of the new Super SUV's but then I think about it. How often will I ever use that power. My 2012 Sorento has a 276hp V6 and a 6 speed auto. It does 0-60 in about 6.8s. I'm happy with that and although I do sometimes wish I had a VERY fast car, I don't see myself using it.

BLEXV6

I may move from the RDX if they axe the V6. I think its a great engine. It's one of the things that distinguishes it from the CRV.

RDX10

I'm pretty sure Acura knows they will lose many customers if they remove the V6. The smart move would be to keep a V6 option but to then offer another option for those looking for more performance.

TacoBello

Carbon2008RDX

That is the conundrum. The normally aspirated V6 is great, decent power and torque, super reliable. With that said it is actually getting a bit dated. It’s port injection not direct injection. Single overhead cam, etc.

These new 4-banger turbos are getting really awesome. Watch a review say on the latest Audi A4. Damn, powerful engine, fast car matched with a nice dual clutch transmission.

I agree, I do love a V6. If Acura made say a small 3.0 V6 with a turbo that would a dead ringer! Come on Acura. Do it!

RDX10

Naah, the MDX and RDX will keep Acura alive for the next 10 years while they sort out their shitty sedans. If ever.

I agree, the V6 is a nice option. But yes it is VERY dated. The J-series as a whole is extremey dated and the either need to bring some new more powerful V6's with say 330ish HP. Or a turbo 3.0l would be PERFECT. Volvo and BMW had a very nice turbo 3.0L for a long time. Easily ring out 300Hp and 300Lb/ft or more while still getting good fuel economy because a 3.0L V6 is big enough to run something the RDX's size without always needing boost like a turbo 4.

But I doubt Acura will even do something like that. I feel like their hybrid power trains are a giant bandage to cover their engines. I am really hoping they are using the hybrid tech as a temporary stepping stone while they work on better V6 engines.

chickdr

The biggest RDX competitor would likely be the NX200t and it is exclusively a 2.0 turbo 4.... Audi's Q5 is also a 2.0T only now. They offered a V6 in the previous gen and I expect a hi-po SQ5 version at some point, but it is well above the RDX's price point. The GLC300 is also a 2.0T until you go to the AMG version.

colt427

I think if a 4 cyl turbo is in the works,it will be a 2L or 2.5L.