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Old 09-12-2011, 11:07 AM
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2013 Acura RDX Spy Shots on TOV!

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Please don't drop the turbo motor!
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At first glance the overall shape looks relatively similar to the current model. It does appear they rounded up the front end a little and got rid of the beak look and maybe some slight modification to the back end. Oh and the fin antenna up top is nice.
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I think (well.. based on these camo pics) that the car will be much less angular and more cohesive than the current model. The grill seems appropriately done (The blade will flow with the headlights, and the frame around the blade and mesh will extend slightly around that), and the size does not appear to be significantly different.

I just hope they find a way to make a decent engine to work with SHAWD and not get 12-13MPG like my cousins 07 (even worse than my late 305hp but 14.5mpg TL SHAWD). Either keep or improve the extremely useful lockable center console (removing that could be a dealbreaker for me). Also.. they had better fix the ride and overall refinement.
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Well I don't see an intake for a turbo.
Old 09-12-2011, 12:57 PM
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looks smaller...also, never really seen Acura go all out with a real flashy camo other than the killed off NSX from a few years ago. That said, looks like the face will more closely match the MDX with the angular headlights on the side, which, if the RDX becomes a smaller MDX, plus for me, as the MDX i think generally is awesome. There is a nice bold crease that seems to run from above the door handles across the body, and the hood looks more muscular, also, seems like the window sills are higher unless its the tape..overall judging by the people in relation to the car itself, it just really does look small, guy is towering over the rear hatch?? thats uhhh, dissapointing

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Where is the intake for the turbo on the current model?

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Well I don't see an intake for a turbo.

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no clue on the exhaust tips either...I'd say it looks nice, the profile pic shows a less prominent beak.
Now wondering what's inside...
Oh, and I like the rims a lot better than the current stock ones too.

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Originally Posted by MMike1981
..overall judging by the people in relation to the car itself, it just really does look small, guy is towering over the rear hatch?? thats uhhh, dissapointing
The rear angle does make it look more like a Venza sized vehicle. The guy leaning on it is not only tall, but he's also standing on a curb.

Really hope they don't drop the overall vehicle height. Right now the RDX is just the right height in traffic, while something like the Venza doesn't work so well.
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I wonder if it is a dressed up CR-V? Unless those guys are +6'5"; the new RDX looks about the same size or smaller to the all new CR-V. I hope the all new RDX has some really cool features because a 2.5L RDX will be running neck-n-neck with a maxed out CR-V.
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Mmike, not so much smaller, it looks like dude is tall, see the mini van next to it. So there's hope yet.
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Originally Posted by wspy
Well I don't see an intake for a turbo.
Gotta look harder...lol jk tape gives me a headache
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
I hope the all new RDX has some really cool features because a 2.5L RDX will be running neck-n-neck with a maxed out CR-V.
So is the prospect of ANY size V6 totally out? A N/A 4 banger is a total deal breaker for me. Way too wimpy.
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Originally Posted by billyt1963
Where is the intake for the turbo on the current model?
he could be talking about the front air inlet to intercooler.
It is located at the Front Grille.

The 2013 looks like just using a regular mesh grille with no air inlet
Turbo very possible be history on RDX

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THats correct BU,...... I forgot to add the word 'intercooler' in my previous statement.

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The intercooler intake is right on the beak/grille, remember that this is a Top Mounted one. The bottom intake you see in the current gen is for the A/C Radiator
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It looks alittle smaller which is made it alittle lighter (assuming) which is probably why they are getting rid of the turbo motor.. the front end does look better, wonder if it can be swapped with the 10-12's front ends it would be a vast improvement if so
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the front is totally CRV. This sucks. Also a 6 speed auto might help on take off but honestly this car's torque curve favors mid rpms over high and therefore a 6at will not improve much in terms of performance, only fuel economy. There definitely isn't a turbo in this car, at least the one in the image. +1 on dressed up CRV.
Old 09-14-2011, 04:35 AM
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The CRV and the new RDX will be made in the same plant, so assume there is a lot of shared content.
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i know, to some, this may come as a shock, but did you really expect anything other than a 2nd gen built up CRV? For those that still think the 1st gen RDX is not much CRV, well, im not sure what else is left to say about that. Every single Acura with maybe the exception of the ZDX is more honda than it is anything else. Obviously this is not uncommon for auto manuf., but it seems so much more prominent coming from Acura than many others. If the next RDX is much less CRV than the 1st gen, i will be shocked. The 1st gen RDX and redesigned CRV were built & tested together with a staggered release date. They do the same with the Pilot and MDX, although the 6speed MDX actually debuted before the restyled Pilot this time around.

There is so much speculation with powerplants that its really hard to make a determination on the outlook of this thing. What Ill be on the lookout for is whether they keep the price the same, and in doing so, what content they may drop (like going from a base model turbo to a base model NA 4 cyl) and what they may upsell. Id truly be surprised if it had a hybrid system that came in under 40k, and by under i dont mean 39,500. Its hard to believe that could happen, when the turbo w/tech is around 39k.

My ultimate wish is that the next RDX becomes more like a smaller MDX/ZDX, has similar luxury content and quality. for that I would pay 40. If its like the current gen (honda with a turbo & better AWD) Acura didnt learn anything. If they somehow pitch it between both of those, like if the RDX got smaller but offers more lux/content, or they change the dynamics of the car so it doesnt even compete with the higher end of the segment, then well see what happens. But you have to believe that when a CRV can top out around 32/33, the RDX is going to pick up somewhere a few k above that.

Anyone hear if they are going to make SHAWD standard again? I could see the new RDX getting very pricey like how they stagger the TL models now.

"RDX SHAWD ADVANCE PKG" somehow doesnt ring cheap or sucha good value anymore. i mean, do you guys follow the other acura models, the TL Adv pkg w/SHAWD is 46k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT!!!! lol
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I was really wishing for a bump in size, 3.5L option, advance model, and interior styling like the ZDX. Looks like Acura is making another top rated vehicle for the used car market.
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good chance this is the engine

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=1002394

"New-K25". Horsepower for this 2.5L iteration of the venerable K-series engine family is listed at 201hp@6000rpm, with 177lb-ft of torque.

- my guess is that with some additional tuning, better exhaust and extras, they could move this number up a bit, but if the rumors of a NA 4 cyl are true...this seems to be it.
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Originally Posted by MMike1981
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=1002394

"New-K25". Horsepower for this 2.5L iteration of the venerable K-series engine family is listed at 201hp@6000rpm, with 177lb-ft of torque.

- my guess is that with some additional tuning, better exhaust and extras, they could move this number up a bit, but if the rumors of a NA 4 cyl are true...this seems to be it.
Do you think the 2.5L I4 has enough hp/tq to work with the sh-awd? I can barely accelerate out of a tight corner with my fwd TSX.

I'm still thinking they still have the turbo or a V-6 up their sleeves for the sh-awd model. I would be fine if the RDX had the old 3.2L V-6 from the past gen TL.
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Originally Posted by pickler
the front is totally CRV. This sucks. Also a 6 speed auto might help on take off but honestly this car's torque curve favors mid rpms over high and therefore a 6at will not improve much in terms of performance, only fuel economy. There definitely isn't a turbo in this car, at least the one in the image. +1 on dressed up CRV.
If you look closely at the headlamps and the line going down the side to the rear quarter panels, it actually looks more like the ZDX.

The ZDX is Acura's flagship SUV, so it only makes sense for the RDX to pick up some of the ZDX's styling.
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
Do you think the 2.5L I4 has enough hp/tq to work with the sh-awd? I can barely accelerate out of a tight corner with my fwd TSX.

I'm still thinking they still have the turbo or a V-6 up their sleeves for the sh-awd model. I would be fine if the RDX had the old 3.2L V-6 from the past gen TL.
+1 for the V6.

I love the turbo 4 but, the 3.2 is very smooth, and you'd give up torque compared to the current turbo. Would probably need the 3.5 V6 and a 6 speed to even be able to run with the current RDX.
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Originally Posted by billyt1963
Where is the intake for the turbo on the current model?




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If you mean the intercooler, its mounted ontop of the engine. air is channeled to it through the grille on the front of the car. anyone ever think about doing a front mount conversion?
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Originally Posted by MarcusRDX
If you mean the intercooler, its mounted ontop of the engine. air is channeled to it through the grille on the front of the car. anyone ever think about doing a front mount conversion?
There have been on and off discussions about a FMIC, but ultimately it has been deemed not worth the trouble.

Still, it would be interesting to see.
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
Do you think the 2.5L I4 has enough hp/tq to work with the sh-awd? I can barely accelerate out of a tight corner with my fwd TSX.

I'm still thinking they still have the turbo or a V-6 up their sleeves for the sh-awd model. I would be fine if the RDX had the old 3.2L V-6 from the past gen TL.

well...its sort of what im thinking with how they will sell this thing, the SHAWD will most likely be bundled with the bigger engine (like the TL), which not only means a price increase, but will most likely be a built in cut off for options and content for the lower models. thats my guess
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I saw some spy photos of the new "Avenger" movie and Tony Stark's new ride. I wonder if this will be the updated look for all Acura’s during the next gen make over. More toned down beak and more angular lines/style. Maybe Acura might surprise us and take a step forward to lead the pack instead of lagging behind as always (always the bridesmaid, never the bride).





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Is that a real Acura? The nsx?
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Originally Posted by pickler
Is that a real Acura? The nsx?
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no
thank god because it's fairly ugly.
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i went for an oil change today, i know the manager at the dealership. i talked to him about the 2013 RDX and if he has any infor about it. He said he doesn't know much but that it will proly have the 2012 civic Si / TSX engine. Acura wants to simplify and reduce engine maintenance and production costs. They are actually aiming to produce as little variation of engines as possible. So they want to produce only k24, j35, j37.

So that basically adds another voice to the idea of a 200 horsepower Acura RDX. Acura still claims that a V6 engine won't fit in the RDX. So i'm wondering where would a 200 horsepower luxury crossover sell?
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^ it wont sell well.. they are basicly suffocating it.. the nissan Juke will be a faster vehicle then it, the infiniti ex35 will blow it out of the water and the chevy equinax will be a better HP producer heck i think the mitsubishi outlander GT will even be better and cheaper.. the 2013 RDX will be killed off fast once they take out the turbo for a less HP engine.. on a side note if its the same exact engine as the 2012 civic si then chances of Hondata coming out with a flashpro will be greater.. still will be a slap in a face for other RDX owners wanting to upgrade for a newer model
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Got semi-confirmation that the 2013 RDX will be a V6. From what I gathered, the K23 Turbo will be history.
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the new crv will be availbale in these two engine sizes

2.4L 16v dohc I4 Program: K24 Horsepower: 175@5,500 Torque: 170 lbs. ft.
2.5L 16v dohc L4 Program: New-K25 Horsepower: 201@6,000 Torque: 177 lbs. ft.

i wonder if the 200 hp one will be the one in the rdx.
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Originally Posted by aodmisery
the new crv will be availbale in these two engine sizes

2.4L 16v dohc I4 Program: K24 Horsepower: 175@5,500 Torque: 170 lbs. ft.
2.5L 16v dohc L4 Program: New-K25 Horsepower: 201@6,000 Torque: 177 lbs. ft.

i wonder if the 200 hp one will be the one in the rdx.
source of this info?
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source of this info?
vtec.net front page
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Hah a new 2.5L, another evidence that rdx will be na 4cyl. Oh and a 5 speed auto again on new CRV!! Looks like rdx will not get the 6at.

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http://www.caranddriver.com/news/spi...os-future_cars

Car & Driver says not to expect a change to the engine; turbo will remain. Only a change to the transmission w/ addition of a 6 speed should be expected.


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