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Old 04-05-2008, 09:55 PM
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There is nothing wrong with the car, just the wrong attitude. And that is why some will never make something of this car.


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If you really want a mid 13 car in a CLS, get some traction & a 75 shot of NOS. That is all you need.
And NOS is safe on the CLS as long as your not on the bottle ALL the time.
Nothing wrong where "the juice is worth the squeeze" from time to time.
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Originally Posted by typeR
my best run at BMP was 13.5 , but ran my first 13 there as well 13.79 @101 , my 13.3 was gainsville ... id say all the bolt ons and maybe thoes mounts theyre working on, and very light weight wheels like the 17 in ssr comp
hey whats up man. I just picked up a spare upper intake manfold and TB for me CLS 6. I was planning on getting the PSR Power plenums and having the spair manifold and throttle body ported and polished. What do you suggest?
Old 04-06-2008, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by typeR
dude u just dont get it ... my car was well on its way to 12 seconds ... 13.306 at 106 auto right car right attitude, 13.9 is not a problem with a bolt on auto leaving the 3.2 in place
thanks again. i know its possible and not that hard. i am not a huge track guy, but making my car a little qiucker to play around with isnt out of the question. i am only asking for a half a second faster. hell, i got that outta removing my spare, resonator and mufflers, with wider tires and an intake. my car is basically stock, and i just wanna beat mustang gt's and 350z's. not a big deal.
plus, unless you are a perfect driver, then u will never get the times you want out of a stick in these cars, so i dont regret sport shifting instead....
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i agree completely with fuzzy... its a car that you'll race a stupid g35 at the light, time to time go to the drag or even the track...
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Originally Posted by 02type-s
I'm shooting for high 13s next season.

1/8 mile is useless
its all i got by me wish there was a 1/4 closer
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You mean you don't like driving an hour to Moroso?

BTW I thought they were making that 1/8th mile POS a 1/4 mile?
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
You mean you don't like driving an hour to Moroso?

BTW I thought they were making that 1/8th mile POS a 1/4 mile?
Thats what I was told last year, but I haven't heard of anything like that since. It doesn't seem like it's going to happen anytime soon. There is nothing on their website either: http://www.countylinedragwayinc.com
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I would try adding tranny mods after some bolt ons like pulley, CAI, Headers, etc. if you want to get serious with the car. You won' t hang with some but you can definately get into the 13's which is not syaing much comparably. I can tell by the way my automatic shifts that i'm loosing time guesing when to shift in autostick. You will be suprised how much a trans can add to track times trust me i experienced it with another car with trans mods alone. I gained almost 1/2 a second. I understand trans seems a little expensive and unreasonable for 13 sec 1/4 mile goals, but they are worth every penny. Maybe an idea to help later with track times. I wish I could have a mid 13 second CL but it is not very practical considering you can go faster for less in a better car, or I should say a more suitable affordable track car. Question, Are you leaving the car in D5 when you race? If so try shifting manually you won't drop out of v-tech at all. I agree this site has some people who treat it like myspace and forget what the purpose is here, I'm sorry if you think I'm hating I'm not just being honest.
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Originally Posted by chrisd078
I would try adding tranny mods after some bolt ons like pulley, CAI, Headers, etc. if you want to get serious with the car. You won' t hang with some but you can definately get into the 13's which is not syaing much comparably. I can tell by the way my automatic shifts that i'm loosing time guesing when to shift in autostick. You will be suprised how much a trans can add to track times trust me i experienced it with another car with trans mods alone. I gained almost 1/2 a second. I understand trans seems a little expensive and unreasonable for 13 sec 1/4 mile goals, but they are worth every penny. Maybe an idea to help later with track times. I wish I could have a mid 13 second CL but it is not very practical considering you can go faster for less in a better car, or I should say a more suitable affordable track car. Question, Are you leaving the car in D5 when you race? If so try shifting manually you won't drop out of v-tech at all. I agree this site has some people who treat it like myspace and forget what the purpose is here, I'm sorry if you think I'm hating I'm not just being honest.
V-tech ftl
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yeah people have such a bad attitude about the CL...i think it is one of the biggest achievments to get a heavy FWD luxury car to go fast. the engine has SO much potential and that fact alone is addicting. everyone always goes to say its the wrong car...yes there better out there, but lets help this guy get in the 13s...idk bout you, but im on here cuz im rooting for the CL and im a fan of this car, maybe people are just fans of ripping on people just like themselves...im confused.

forget N/A, just supercharge and enjoy the car!
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btw i had over 500 passes
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
You mean you don't like driving an hour to Moroso?

BTW I thought they were making that 1/8th mile POS a 1/4 mile?
i never realized it was that close
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My CL-S 6 speed has been 13.8 in the 1/4 mile with just a intake on it, with a set of Falken Azenis. I have not taken it with all teh current mods, but sure i can get mid 13 second pass, and all i have is bolt ons. Plenums, 4 inch intake, spacer, and headers.
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sweet!what did you trap and what was your short time? post the slip! what were the conditions at the track?
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Originally Posted by PowerRev
My CL-S 6 speed has been 13.8 in the 1/4 mile with just a intake on it, with a set of Falken Azenis. I have not taken it with all teh current mods, but sure i can get mid 13 second pass, and all i have is bolt ons. Plenums, 4 inch intake, spacer, and headers.
i'm sure you guys have a lot more track time than the usual folk though. but that means that even with intake/headers the car should be in the 13.6-7 range..
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Originally Posted by LIPPSTUH
didn't say it possible i just think that the cl isn't the best car for performance...... fwd and large don't make a good canidate for a track car.... if it was rwd it be great for dragging....

i love the cl and i know the possibilities of it. its quick, but its just not the best car for dragging/tracking. if u had to pick a car all over again for this. what would you do?
It's not about having a track car, it's having a daily driver that can hold it's own at the track.

The guy around the corner from me has a Pinto that could smoke any Acura on this Forum, but who would want to drive it every day?

Acura CL type S, the best of both worlds in a relatively affordable package.
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^^ exactly!
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Yes! i couldnt have said it better myself...i like a little bit of EVERYTHING, maybe some on here dont? def time for an upgrade for me * ;-)
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well, i appreciate all the replies and i know i can get my car in the 13.9's with bolt ons and my driving. i am not able to get another car anytime soon, so i wanna enjoy it as much as possible. plus i wouldnt buy a g35 or anything else in our class, just to be unsatisfied with its performance again, so a little bit of money in the car i already have is sensible in my opinion.
i would have to get a gas guzzler like a gto or an expensive car like a m3 to be satisfied in stock form.
I AM VERY CURIOUS 2 SEE SOME TRACK TIMES FROM ALL MEMBERS, SO MAYBE I WILL START A NEW THREAD ON THAT
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I can't scan the timeslip, but here is everythin important off of there:

60' - 2.094
1/4 - 13.895
MPH - 98.65

You can tell from my timeslip that the car was stock, from the Trap Speed of only 98 mph.
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Man, you must have launched really good. I was trapping 98 last time I went but was only getting 14.4's. I couldn't hook up.

You have 225 tires right? Doesn't that effect the run? Changes the gearing since they are smaller then stock diameter.
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Originally Posted by PowerRev
I can't scan the timeslip, but here is everythin important off of there:

60' - 2.094
1/4 - 13.895
MPH - 98.65

You can tell from my timeslip that the car was stock, from the Trap Speed of only 98 mph.
the low trap is probablly due in part to the 6mt , id say he had to shift to 4th before the end and that hurt the trap
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Originally Posted by PowerRev
I can't scan the timeslip, but here is everythin important off of there:

60' - 2.094
1/4 - 13.895
MPH - 98.65

You can tell from my timeslip that the car was stock, from the Trap Speed of only 98 mph.
id be interested in the 1/8th time and mph
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I will tell you 1/8 time when i go to shop in the morning, and find the slip again. The mph is low because the engine is stock. The reason the time is good is because of the 60 foot. Its all about the 60 foot. A good rule of thumb is every .1 off your 60 foot, is about .2 off your time. Example.
2.2 60 foot = 14.0 1/4 mile time
2.1 60 foot = 13.8 1/4 mile time
2.0 60 foot = 13.6 1/4 mile time.
This is just an example. Hopefully makes sense lol
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Originally Posted by PowerRev
I will tell you 1/8 time when i go to shop in the morning, and find the slip again. The mph is low because the engine is stock. The reason the time is good is because of the 60 foot. Its all about the 60 foot. A good rule of thumb is every .1 off your 60 foot, is about .2 off your time. Example.
2.2 60 foot = 14.0 1/4 mile time
2.1 60 foot = 13.8 1/4 mile time
2.0 60 foot = 13.6 1/4 mile time.
This is just an example. Hopefully makes sense lol
track times go in the thread i made in the racing and competition side...thanks guys
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Originally Posted by PowerRev
I will tell you 1/8 time when i go to shop in the morning, and find the slip again. The mph is low because the engine is stock. The reason the time is good is because of the 60 foot. Its all about the 60 foot. A good rule of thumb is every .1 off your 60 foot, is about .2 off your time. Example.
2.2 60 foot = 14.0 1/4 mile time
2.1 60 foot = 13.8 1/4 mile time
2.0 60 foot = 13.6 1/4 mile time.
This is just an example. Hopefully makes sense lol
60 foot ... whats that
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60 foot ... whats that

fixed
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The most important part of drag racing. How good you launch the car. How fast it takes you to travel 60 feet from a dead stop. THis will completely make or break your 1/4 mile time.
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Originally Posted by PowerRev
The most important part of drag racing. How good you launch the car. How fast it takes you to travel 60 feet from a dead stop. THis will completely make or break your 1/4 mile time.
not sure what you fixed , i was just being sarcastic... ive gone 1.995 on street tires in the auto


oh i get it now , the red lettering

and Mike before u chime in ... u put a seat on that bike yet or u still riding with just the post lol

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I could only manage a 2.25 and hit 13.4... If I had some stickier rubber I'm certain I woulda been in the 12's.
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Originally Posted by typeR
not sure what you fixed , i was just being sarcastic... ive gone 1.995 on street tires in the auto


oh i get it now , the red lettering

and Mike before u chime in ... u put a seat on that bike yet or u still riding with just the post lol

:theghey:


btw, i didn't chime because i've stopped being your interpreter. your english is worse than people who are fresh off the boat
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not sure what you fixed , i was just being sarcastic... ive gone 1.995 on street tires in the auto


oh i get it now , the red lettering

and Mike before u chime in ... u put a seat on that bike yet or u still riding with just the post lol

:theghey:
make sure it's well lubed LOL
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btw, i didn't chime because i've stopped being your interpreter. your english is worse than people who are fresh off the boat
i speak txtese...
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
Man, you must have launched really good. I was trapping 98 last time I went but was only getting 14.4's. I couldn't hook up.

You have 225 tires right? Doesn't that effect the run? Changes the gearing since they are smaller then stock diameter.

225 is the width, not the diameter. the diameter is based on the wheel size and the aspect ratio.

For example if the tire is a 235/40R18
the width of the tread pattern/tire is 235mm or 9.25 inches
the height of the side wall is 235X.40=90mm or 3.54 inches
and the diameter would be the side wall height times two plus the wheel diameter. 3.54inches*2+18inches=25.08inches
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Originally Posted by grime015
225 is the width, not the diameter. the diameter is based on the wheel size and the aspect ratio.

For example if the tire is a 235/40R18
the width of the tread pattern/tire is 235mm or 9.25 inches
the height of the side wall is 235X.40=90mm or 3.54 inches
and the diameter would be the side wall height times two plus the wheel diameter. 3.54inches*2+18inches=25.08inches
he knows that and is assuming the guy is running a 225/45/17 set up which would be a smaller roll than the 215/50 stock
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Originally Posted by Allout
Weight reduction or more power or a combination of both is what's needed. Have you taken a look at this thread on the TL side regarding weight reduction? It will give you an idea on the weight reductions. I'm not suggesting that you go as far as this guy but you can use this as a guide according to your situation and taste. Coco also has done some serious weight reductions and is a serious competitor.

https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/where-tl-tsx-151540/
real nice read that thread was great

Thanks ..... some Guys are just Out of this World or shud I say inaccurate.
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Originally Posted by LIPPSTUH
a different car...
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Originally Posted by smokendsm
Don't be fooled, plenty of auto cars drag race...
+1

In high torque RWD cars, the auto will win every time. Easier to launch. When I went from my AT CL to the 6M GTO, I had to learn to drive all over again at the track.
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