what do i need for a 13 second car?
#41
Moderator Alumnus
Originally Posted by Cocoa
There is nothing wrong with the car, just the wrong attitude. And that is why some will never make something of this car.
Originally Posted by fuzzy
If you really want a mid 13 car in a CLS, get some traction & a 75 shot of NOS. That is all you need.
And NOS is safe on the CLS as long as your not on the bottle ALL the time.
And NOS is safe on the CLS as long as your not on the bottle ALL the time.
#42
Originally Posted by typeR
my best run at BMP was 13.5 , but ran my first 13 there as well 13.79 @101 , my 13.3 was gainsville ... id say all the bolt ons and maybe thoes mounts theyre working on, and very light weight wheels like the 17 in ssr comp
#43
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Originally Posted by typeR
dude u just dont get it ... my car was well on its way to 12 seconds ... 13.306 at 106 auto right car right attitude, 13.9 is not a problem with a bolt on auto leaving the 3.2 in place
plus, unless you are a perfect driver, then u will never get the times you want out of a stick in these cars, so i dont regret sport shifting instead....
#47
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
You mean you don't like driving an hour to Moroso?
BTW I thought they were making that 1/8th mile POS a 1/4 mile?
BTW I thought they were making that 1/8th mile POS a 1/4 mile?
#48
I would try adding tranny mods after some bolt ons like pulley, CAI, Headers, etc. if you want to get serious with the car. You won' t hang with some but you can definately get into the 13's which is not syaing much comparably. I can tell by the way my automatic shifts that i'm loosing time guesing when to shift in autostick. You will be suprised how much a trans can add to track times trust me i experienced it with another car with trans mods alone. I gained almost 1/2 a second. I understand trans seems a little expensive and unreasonable for 13 sec 1/4 mile goals, but they are worth every penny. Maybe an idea to help later with track times. I wish I could have a mid 13 second CL but it is not very practical considering you can go faster for less in a better car, or I should say a more suitable affordable track car. Question, Are you leaving the car in D5 when you race? If so try shifting manually you won't drop out of v-tech at all. I agree this site has some people who treat it like myspace and forget what the purpose is here, I'm sorry if you think I'm hating I'm not just being honest.
#49
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Originally Posted by chrisd078
I would try adding tranny mods after some bolt ons like pulley, CAI, Headers, etc. if you want to get serious with the car. You won' t hang with some but you can definately get into the 13's which is not syaing much comparably. I can tell by the way my automatic shifts that i'm loosing time guesing when to shift in autostick. You will be suprised how much a trans can add to track times trust me i experienced it with another car with trans mods alone. I gained almost 1/2 a second. I understand trans seems a little expensive and unreasonable for 13 sec 1/4 mile goals, but they are worth every penny. Maybe an idea to help later with track times. I wish I could have a mid 13 second CL but it is not very practical considering you can go faster for less in a better car, or I should say a more suitable affordable track car. Question, Are you leaving the car in D5 when you race? If so try shifting manually you won't drop out of v-tech at all. I agree this site has some people who treat it like myspace and forget what the purpose is here, I'm sorry if you think I'm hating I'm not just being honest.
#51
TellinItLikeItIsSince1/06
yeah people have such a bad attitude about the CL...i think it is one of the biggest achievments to get a heavy FWD luxury car to go fast. the engine has SO much potential and that fact alone is addicting. everyone always goes to say its the wrong car...yes there better out there, but lets help this guy get in the 13s...idk bout you, but im on here cuz im rooting for the CL and im a fan of this car, maybe people are just fans of ripping on people just like themselves...im confused.
forget N/A, just supercharge and enjoy the car!
forget N/A, just supercharge and enjoy the car!
#53
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
You mean you don't like driving an hour to Moroso?
BTW I thought they were making that 1/8th mile POS a 1/4 mile?
BTW I thought they were making that 1/8th mile POS a 1/4 mile?
#54
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My CL-S 6 speed has been 13.8 in the 1/4 mile with just a intake on it, with a set of Falken Azenis. I have not taken it with all teh current mods, but sure i can get mid 13 second pass, and all i have is bolt ons. Plenums, 4 inch intake, spacer, and headers.
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Originally Posted by PowerRev
My CL-S 6 speed has been 13.8 in the 1/4 mile with just a intake on it, with a set of Falken Azenis. I have not taken it with all teh current mods, but sure i can get mid 13 second pass, and all i have is bolt ons. Plenums, 4 inch intake, spacer, and headers.
#57
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Originally Posted by LIPPSTUH
didn't say it possible i just think that the cl isn't the best car for performance...... fwd and large don't make a good canidate for a track car.... if it was rwd it be great for dragging....
i love the cl and i know the possibilities of it. its quick, but its just not the best car for dragging/tracking. if u had to pick a car all over again for this. what would you do?
i love the cl and i know the possibilities of it. its quick, but its just not the best car for dragging/tracking. if u had to pick a car all over again for this. what would you do?
The guy around the corner from me has a Pinto that could smoke any Acura on this Forum, but who would want to drive it every day?
Acura CL type S, the best of both worlds in a relatively affordable package.
#59
TellinItLikeItIsSince1/06
Yes! i couldnt have said it better myself...i like a little bit of EVERYTHING, maybe some on here dont? def time for an upgrade for me * ;-)
#60
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well, i appreciate all the replies and i know i can get my car in the 13.9's with bolt ons and my driving. i am not able to get another car anytime soon, so i wanna enjoy it as much as possible. plus i wouldnt buy a g35 or anything else in our class, just to be unsatisfied with its performance again, so a little bit of money in the car i already have is sensible in my opinion.
i would have to get a gas guzzler like a gto or an expensive car like a m3 to be satisfied in stock form.
I AM VERY CURIOUS 2 SEE SOME TRACK TIMES FROM ALL MEMBERS, SO MAYBE I WILL START A NEW THREAD ON THAT
i would have to get a gas guzzler like a gto or an expensive car like a m3 to be satisfied in stock form.
I AM VERY CURIOUS 2 SEE SOME TRACK TIMES FROM ALL MEMBERS, SO MAYBE I WILL START A NEW THREAD ON THAT
#61
Instructor
I can't scan the timeslip, but here is everythin important off of there:
60' - 2.094
1/4 - 13.895
MPH - 98.65
You can tell from my timeslip that the car was stock, from the Trap Speed of only 98 mph.
60' - 2.094
1/4 - 13.895
MPH - 98.65
You can tell from my timeslip that the car was stock, from the Trap Speed of only 98 mph.
#63
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Originally Posted by PowerRev
I can't scan the timeslip, but here is everythin important off of there:
60' - 2.094
1/4 - 13.895
MPH - 98.65
You can tell from my timeslip that the car was stock, from the Trap Speed of only 98 mph.
60' - 2.094
1/4 - 13.895
MPH - 98.65
You can tell from my timeslip that the car was stock, from the Trap Speed of only 98 mph.
#64
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Originally Posted by PowerRev
I can't scan the timeslip, but here is everythin important off of there:
60' - 2.094
1/4 - 13.895
MPH - 98.65
You can tell from my timeslip that the car was stock, from the Trap Speed of only 98 mph.
60' - 2.094
1/4 - 13.895
MPH - 98.65
You can tell from my timeslip that the car was stock, from the Trap Speed of only 98 mph.
#65
Instructor
I will tell you 1/8 time when i go to shop in the morning, and find the slip again. The mph is low because the engine is stock. The reason the time is good is because of the 60 foot. Its all about the 60 foot. A good rule of thumb is every .1 off your 60 foot, is about .2 off your time. Example.
2.2 60 foot = 14.0 1/4 mile time
2.1 60 foot = 13.8 1/4 mile time
2.0 60 foot = 13.6 1/4 mile time.
This is just an example. Hopefully makes sense lol
2.2 60 foot = 14.0 1/4 mile time
2.1 60 foot = 13.8 1/4 mile time
2.0 60 foot = 13.6 1/4 mile time.
This is just an example. Hopefully makes sense lol
#66
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Originally Posted by PowerRev
I will tell you 1/8 time when i go to shop in the morning, and find the slip again. The mph is low because the engine is stock. The reason the time is good is because of the 60 foot. Its all about the 60 foot. A good rule of thumb is every .1 off your 60 foot, is about .2 off your time. Example.
2.2 60 foot = 14.0 1/4 mile time
2.1 60 foot = 13.8 1/4 mile time
2.0 60 foot = 13.6 1/4 mile time.
This is just an example. Hopefully makes sense lol
2.2 60 foot = 14.0 1/4 mile time
2.1 60 foot = 13.8 1/4 mile time
2.0 60 foot = 13.6 1/4 mile time.
This is just an example. Hopefully makes sense lol
#67
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Originally Posted by PowerRev
I will tell you 1/8 time when i go to shop in the morning, and find the slip again. The mph is low because the engine is stock. The reason the time is good is because of the 60 foot. Its all about the 60 foot. A good rule of thumb is every .1 off your 60 foot, is about .2 off your time. Example.
2.2 60 foot = 14.0 1/4 mile time
2.1 60 foot = 13.8 1/4 mile time
2.0 60 foot = 13.6 1/4 mile time.
This is just an example. Hopefully makes sense lol
2.2 60 foot = 14.0 1/4 mile time
2.1 60 foot = 13.8 1/4 mile time
2.0 60 foot = 13.6 1/4 mile time.
This is just an example. Hopefully makes sense lol
#69
Instructor
The most important part of drag racing. How good you launch the car. How fast it takes you to travel 60 feet from a dead stop. THis will completely make or break your 1/4 mile time.
#70
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by PowerRev
The most important part of drag racing. How good you launch the car. How fast it takes you to travel 60 feet from a dead stop. THis will completely make or break your 1/4 mile time.
oh i get it now , the red lettering
and Mike before u chime in ... u put a seat on that bike yet or u still riding with just the post lol
:theghey:
#72
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Originally Posted by typeR
not sure what you fixed , i was just being sarcastic... ive gone 1.995 on street tires in the auto
oh i get it now , the red lettering
and Mike before u chime in ... u put a seat on that bike yet or u still riding with just the post lol
:theghey:
oh i get it now , the red lettering
and Mike before u chime in ... u put a seat on that bike yet or u still riding with just the post lol
:theghey:
btw, i didn't chime because i've stopped being your interpreter. your english is worse than people who are fresh off the boat
#73
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Originally Posted by typeR
not sure what you fixed , i was just being sarcastic... ive gone 1.995 on street tires in the auto
oh i get it now , the red lettering
and Mike before u chime in ... u put a seat on that bike yet or u still riding with just the post lol
:theghey:
oh i get it now , the red lettering
and Mike before u chime in ... u put a seat on that bike yet or u still riding with just the post lol
:theghey:
#74
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Originally Posted by Mike
btw, i didn't chime because i've stopped being your interpreter. your english is worse than people who are fresh off the boat
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
Man, you must have launched really good. I was trapping 98 last time I went but was only getting 14.4's. I couldn't hook up.
You have 225 tires right? Doesn't that effect the run? Changes the gearing since they are smaller then stock diameter.
You have 225 tires right? Doesn't that effect the run? Changes the gearing since they are smaller then stock diameter.
225 is the width, not the diameter. the diameter is based on the wheel size and the aspect ratio.
For example if the tire is a 235/40R18
the width of the tread pattern/tire is 235mm or 9.25 inches
the height of the side wall is 235X.40=90mm or 3.54 inches
and the diameter would be the side wall height times two plus the wheel diameter. 3.54inches*2+18inches=25.08inches
#76
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Originally Posted by grime015
225 is the width, not the diameter. the diameter is based on the wheel size and the aspect ratio.
For example if the tire is a 235/40R18
the width of the tread pattern/tire is 235mm or 9.25 inches
the height of the side wall is 235X.40=90mm or 3.54 inches
and the diameter would be the side wall height times two plus the wheel diameter. 3.54inches*2+18inches=25.08inches
For example if the tire is a 235/40R18
the width of the tread pattern/tire is 235mm or 9.25 inches
the height of the side wall is 235X.40=90mm or 3.54 inches
and the diameter would be the side wall height times two plus the wheel diameter. 3.54inches*2+18inches=25.08inches
#78
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Originally Posted by Allout
Weight reduction or more power or a combination of both is what's needed. Have you taken a look at this thread on the TL side regarding weight reduction? It will give you an idea on the weight reductions. I'm not suggesting that you go as far as this guy but you can use this as a guide according to your situation and taste. Coco also has done some serious weight reductions and is a serious competitor.
https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/where-tl-tsx-151540/
https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/where-tl-tsx-151540/
Thanks ..... some Guys are just Out of this World or shud I say inaccurate.
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Originally Posted by smokendsm
Don't be fooled, plenty of auto cars drag race...
In high torque RWD cars, the auto will win every time. Easier to launch. When I went from my AT CL to the 6M GTO, I had to learn to drive all over again at the track.
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