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Old 11-02-2010, 07:37 PM
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do the 350z rotors not have screws holes to hold it against the hub? if not are you guys just letting the rim and lug nuts hold everything together?
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Originally Posted by KnightRyderV
do the 350z rotors not have screws holes to hold it against the hub? if not are you guys just letting the rim and lug nuts hold everything together?
No they do not line up, however you could drill one if you're paranoid. I experienced no vibrations whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by KnightRyderV
do the 350z rotors not have screws holes to hold it against the hub? if not are you guys just letting the rim and lug nuts hold everything together?
There is no need to attach the rotors. If your wheels are loose you have much bigger problems than your rotors moving.
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thanks for the info.

on a side note. those damn caliper bolts are really hard to find. the guy i bought my calipers from had his tech rebuild them and he striped one of the bolt heads while getting it out so finding a replacement has been hard. im likely going to replace all 8 bolts since i cant find the same looking bolt anywhere.

i found out that its an M10-1.25 bolt, the outter bolts are 80mm long and the inner ones are 75mm.

i may end up just getting some hex bolts in this size and legth and try to find a nice finishing cap for the head, something similar to those snap on license plate bolt covers
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Originally Posted by KnightRyderV
thanks for the info.

on a side note. those damn caliper bolts are really hard to find. the guy i bought my calipers from had his tech rebuild them and he striped one of the bolt heads while getting it out so finding a replacement has been hard. im likely going to replace all 8 bolts since i cant find the same looking bolt anywhere.

i found out that its an M10-1.25 bolt, the outter bolts are 80mm long and the inner ones are 75mm.

i may end up just getting some hex bolts in this size and legth and try to find a nice finishing cap for the head, something similar to those snap on license plate bolt covers
McMaster-Carr is your friend, get Stainless Steel. No hardware store shit.
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yea thats where paul told me to look. problem is that they dont have stainless steel bolts in the size i need them in.

i did however find some class 8.8 steel bolts coated with zinc from that site. i pm'd paul, hopefully he approves.

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anyone know how much brake fluid is needed to completely flush the system? i plan on using ATE Super Blue (same as ATE Type 200, except its tinted blue so you can see the change in fluid color to make flushing easy)

i noticed e30cabrio bought 2 1L cans but im reading on most places that 1L should be enough. i plan on doing 2 cars, mine and my friends so will 3L be enough to flush both cars?
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I used about 2-3 bottles of the honda fluid. I think its about 12oz a bottle Vimal.
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thanks gary.
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Originally Posted by JBlueCLS6
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LOL... you just installed them?

I was going to run the same setup for the winter (04+ TL stockies).

Well, glad you're enjoying them!
Yeah I justed installed them... Was waiting until I found the right pair of wheels. And yes I am enjoying them everyday! Thanks again bro.


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Nice job slick, mine should be on this weekend pending the arrival of the brake pads.
Btw will your s/s brake lines fit the 3g tl? Cause if so I might be interested in buying them.
I know for sure that the SS lines threaded end fits the RL caliper, and the other end is a banjo bolt fitting so it "should" work.

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looking good slickshift.
Thanks alot man, coming from you that's a big complement. I'm a big fan of your car!
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looking good slickshift.
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Originally Posted by SlickShiftNall6
Yeah I justed installed them... Was waiting until I found the right pair of wheels. And yes I am enjoying them everyday! Thanks again bro.




I know for sure that the SS lines threaded end fits the RL caliper, and the other end is a banjo bolt fitting so it "should" work.



Thanks alot man, coming from you that's a big complement. I'm a big fan of your car!
thanks alot.
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Quesetions for those running the RL calipers: What sized rotors did you use? The brembo 350Z or regular (05+) 350Z rotors?

Cause I came into some numbers and I just wanted some opinions and experiences:

350Z:
-320mm outer diameter (12.6 in.)
-Nominal thickness: 28.1 mm
-Minimum thickness: 26mm
-Bolt size: 12.9mm

350Z Brembo:
-324 mm outer diameter (12.75 in.)
-Nominal thickness: 30 mm
-Minimum thickness: 28.4 mm
-Bolt size: 12.7 mm

Would the Brembo sized rotors be too think for the rotors since the RL rotors are the same nominal and minimum thickness as the regular 350Z rotors?
Also the bolt size on the CL rotors are 12.6 mm, which is closer to the Brembo 350Z rotor's bolt size of 12.7 mm. So i'm a bit torn. The Brembo sized rotors are larger and the bolt size (bolt holes?) fit the CL studs better but the non-brembos are the same thickness as the original RL rotors. Help! lol

Right now im leaning towards the brembo sized ones cause I'm sure the smaller bolt size would help with any rotor vibration and because they are larger (no worries about partial pad contact), plus Paul said that he uses this size.
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Originally Posted by aznboi2424
Right now im leaning towards the brembo sized ones cause I'm sure the smaller bolt size would help with any rotor vibration and because they are larger (no worries about partial pad contact), plus Paul said that he uses this size
I'm gonna be using the brembo 350 Z rotors.
Btw I think you answered your own question.

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These are about to come off my Z. They have about 10k on them.

EBC USR7218

Brand: EBC Brakes
Sizing and Specifications
Item Weight: 34 Pounds
Height: 6.50 in
Length: 13 in
Width: 13.75 in






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Originally Posted by aznboi2424
Quesetions for those running the RL calipers: What sized rotors did you use? The brembo 350Z or regular (05+) 350Z rotors?

Cause I came into some numbers and I just wanted some opinions and experiences:

350Z:
-320mm outer diameter (12.6 in.)
-Nominal thickness: 28.1 mm
-Minimum thickness: 26mm
-Bolt size: 12.9mm

350Z Brembo:
-324 mm outer diameter (12.75 in.)
-Nominal thickness: 30 mm
-Minimum thickness: 28.4 mm
-Bolt size: 12.7 mm

Would the Brembo sized rotors be too think for the rotors since the RL rotors are the same nominal and minimum thickness as the regular 350Z rotors?
Also the bolt size on the CL rotors are 12.6 mm, which is closer to the Brembo 350Z rotor's bolt size of 12.7 mm. So i'm a bit torn. The Brembo sized rotors are larger and the bolt size (bolt holes?) fit the CL studs better but the non-brembos are the same thickness as the original RL rotors. Help! lol

Right now im leaning towards the brembo sized ones cause I'm sure the smaller bolt size would help with any rotor vibration and because they are larger (no worries about partial pad contact), plus Paul said that he uses this size.
You have to use the Brembo rotors. Thats what the brackets were measured on. I dont know if the offset on the non-Brembo rotors are the same.
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offset? Okay, I'll get the brembo sized ones. As long as the added thickness doesnt interfer with new pads. Now I just gotta figure out if these will fit under my rims.

Anyone running RL calipers with 3G TL rims willing to do a quick measurement for me?
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Originally Posted by aznboi2424
offset? Okay, I'll get the brembo sized ones. As long as the added thickness doesnt interfer with new pads. Now I just gotta figure out if these will fit under my rims.

Anyone running RL calipers with 3G TL rims willing to do a quick measurement for me?
They will fit.

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/rl-brake-calipers-3g-tl-760612/
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I know they fit but I wanted to see how much room there is from the spokes to the rotors so that way I can see if my wheels fit or how large of a spacer I need.
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What wheels are you running?
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RX-8 wheels, 18x8, +50. Spokes go straight out and theres no lip so I should get more clearance as it gets towards the barrel. Theres a pic of them in my album.
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How much clearance do you current have?
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I havent measured.
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Finnally!!

Ok guys, got the calipers on this weekend. Big thanx to anthracitecl for helping me out big time.
All i have to do now is get some ss lines.

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lookin good!

i decided to fully polish my calipers since i cant find a good hypersilver powdercoat to match my wheels...


this was just a trial run to see how it'd turn out and it looks great so im going to continue and finish off the rest of the caliper. i took off the ACURA because these are going on my accord so i'll have a Honda decal in its place when its all done. will probably have it powdercoated clear to protect everything when im done.
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Looking good Vimal.

Anyone know the situation about the brake lines? I noticed that on the RL its a rubber hose to a metal hose then to the caliper.
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Just use the CL brake lines. They bolt right up.
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do they bolt up to the metal line or do I remove that?
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Mine didn't come with a metal line.
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Yea, its a metal rigid line that connects directly to the back of the calipers.



Number 6 and 7 for each side. They are then connected to number 1 (rubber hose).

So you just connected the rubber hose off the car directly to the calipers?
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Yep.
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hmm, that works for me. I'll take a look at the rear of the original calipers to see how they fit but at least I wont need to buy new lines.
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Dipset, they look good.
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Originally Posted by acura_dipset_tl
Ok guys, got the calipers on this weekend. Big thanx to anthracitecl for helping me out big time.
All i have to do now is get some ss lines.

looks like u got the rotor on the wrong side. thats the driver side rotor I think
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All depends on the vanes in the middle. The slots on the rotor itself can go either way.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
All depends on the vanes in the middle. The slots on the rotor itself can go either way.
, i know for the rotora bbk, that indeed they do look like they mount backwards, but the vanes are going the correct way though
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Originally Posted by upnout
Dipset, they look good.
Thanx

Originally Posted by nspec_ya4
looks like u got the rotor on the wrong side. thats the driver side rotor I think
I put them on how they were labeled, unless they were labeled wrong from the manufacture.
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can you take the rear rotor off a 350z or a RL? or does it not have an E-brake that'll work?
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The e-brake is the issue.
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Just a couple of things while I was looking for info and talking to Paul:

-You can use the stock hoses directly to the RL calipers, forget the metal rigid lines.
-350Z Brembo sized rotors seem the best size to use. They are bigger and the bolt holes are tighter around the hub then the non-brembo size (vibration concern). While the brembo sized rotors are thicker, Paul says they will still fit.
- I measured pads and calipers and you need at least 60mm of space from the rotor to the spokes of your rims. This was a critical number for me in determining if my wheels would fit and what size of spacers I would need.


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