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Old 08-27-2004, 06:44 PM
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install is almost finished

all i have left to do is put the a pipe in place

front and rear headers fit perfectly

i got some pics


i started this exactly 1 hour ago, not bad for hand tools and doing it myself in my house garage with no lift or anything
Old 08-27-2004, 06:48 PM
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never heard of that brand




nice work on getting them installed. how long until the test drive?
Old 08-27-2004, 08:18 PM
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just finished them, 2 1/2 hours

guess they are stone headers??


test drive will be tonight

just need to clean the front headers off and start her up
Old 08-27-2004, 08:53 PM
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it sounds a little funny, the video doesn't sound exactly like i heard it in person

http://rbf351.com/CL-S/toys/header2/sound.MPG

now some pics

crappy stock a pipe out


damn that ugly


amazing how rusty it is, and it's only 1 year and 4 months old


looks so much nicer


rear header, just a FYI it is much easier to remove and install it from the top, all you need to do is remove the strut bar


bolts to the cat nicely


rear header bolts up nice too


so deos the front


clears axle and oil pan nicely


view from where i was, yes i know using only a jack to hold the car is dangerous


I can see myself!!
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quick work nice job
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Holy crap! No fitment issues! I'm sold!!!!

How is the butt-dyno?
Old 08-27-2004, 10:28 PM
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Great!

That is perfect...Congrats! I hope that you like them!
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Looks good. Nice job! You should get some jack stands and stop drinking so much soda.
Old 08-27-2004, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NiteQwill
Holy crap! No fitment issues! I'm sold!!!!

How is the butt-dyno?
no idea, i messed up on the install

forgot to put the 3 gaskets on and i'm leaking badly

have to install them in a day or so,
Old 08-27-2004, 10:56 PM
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I think it is the right time to start a 20 Unit Group Buy.

Nashua.
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Originally Posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
I think it is the right time to start a 20 Unit Group Buy.

Nashua.
Old 08-28-2004, 09:14 AM
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Good job RBF351, interested in coming to Nebraska to help with a six speed header install?

Also, thanks to Nashua for taking the time to coordinate this!

'03 CLS Six Speed
Icebox
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Originally Posted by Dave
Good job RBF351, interested in coming to Nebraska to help with a six speed header install?

Also, thanks to Nashua for taking the time to coordinate this!

'03 CLS Six Speed
Icebox
how far is it from NY?

got the 3 gaskets that i needed and will be putting them on the car once it cools down, had to do a few things and put almost 100 miles on the headers, they are nice and gold colored now
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Originally Posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
I think it is the right time to start a 20 Unit Group Buy.

Nashua.
Nashua,
Please post/pm the terms and conditions on getting in on this groupbuy! I want to reserve and be one of the eventual twenty purchasers.

Thanks for your efforts.
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me too!
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me too!!! i've been waiting for these!!!
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update

the headers are not good

there are fitment issues

the leaks i had were not from the header to a pipe but from the header to the cylinder heads

the A pipe is on the wrong angle and won't let the headers tighten down flat onto the heads, which is cause a huge leak. i have to put the stock ones back on
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thats gay, no one can make headers that are right, time for alpha works
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Originally Posted by rbf351
update

the headers are not good

there are fitment issues

the leaks i had were not from the header to a pipe but from the header to the cylinder heads

the A pipe is on the wrong angle and won't let the headers tighten down flat onto the heads, which is cause a huge leak. i have to put the stock ones back on


I guess it's back on the fence for me
Hopefully, this can be corrected.
Old 08-28-2004, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rbf351
update

the headers are not good

there are fitment issues

the leaks i had were not from the header to a pipe but from the header to the cylinder heads

the A pipe is on the wrong angle and won't let the headers tighten down flat onto the heads, which is cause a huge leak. i have to put the stock ones back on
This is what you do in this case...The following instructions have been repeated many times:
1) You attach all bolts and tighten the nuts by hand ONLY!
2) You torque the nuts of the headers to the block first
3) You torque the nuts of the headers to downpipe next
4) You torque the nuts of the downpipe to Catalic Conv third.

This should solve the problem Also, note that on the stock OEM headers the The holes of the screws on the headers to downpipe are larger then the screws to give a leeway so the headers can be tilted left or right... Just look at the OEM headers and you get the idea.

Nashua
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Originally Posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
This is what you do in this case...The following instructions have been repeated many times:
1) You attach all bolts and tighten the nuts by hand ONLY!
2) You torque the nuts of the headers to the block first
3) You torque the nuts of the headers to downpipe next
4) You torque the nuts of the downpipe to Catalic Conv third.

This should solve the problem Also, note that on the stock OEM headers the The holes of the screws on the headers to downpipe are larger then the screws to give a leeway so the headers can be tilted left or right... Just look at the OEM headers and you get the idea.

Nashua
i'll try that in the morning and see what happens
Old 08-29-2004, 10:41 AM
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Then the pipes on the header themselves crack due to the stress. I can't beliieve you still have fittment issues on these headers Nashua!
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Originally Posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
Also, note that on the stock OEM headers the The holes of the screws on the headers to downpipe are larger then the screws to give a leeway so the headers can be tilted left or right... Just look at the OEM headers and you get the idea.
Then why don't the Stoners come that way?
Old 08-29-2004, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by rbf351
i'll try that in the morning and see what happens
If the headers came with gaskets, take them off and put the stock gaskets on. They will hold the seal better after the headers settle into shape from torque-ing them into place.
Old 08-29-2004, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ModAddict
If the headers came with gaskets, take them off and put the stock gaskets on. They will hold the seal better after the headers settle into shape from torque-ing them into place.
just tried what he said in how to tighten them down

they still do not fit correctly and are leaking from the head and no where else

i tried new stock gaskets, tightening them the way he posted and nothing fixes the leak

i'm sending these back to you tomorrow morning for a refund
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Also make sure you have the stock gaskets in place at the heads. THey are re-usable but I couldn't tell from the pics if they are on there or not.
Old 08-30-2004, 08:32 AM
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bumping this thread

Nashua why aren't you answering my PM's? i want a refund on these things before i go on vacation, you have my cell number so either call me or i'll call you today about this
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Hey Red, did you get your AW headers yet?

Tunaboy told me that after he picked them up from that ebay guy he installed them and had no fitment issues. He's liking the gains a lot, he just didn't have a lot of time to test them.
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Originally Posted by AmooManiaK
Hey Red, did you get your AW headers yet?

Tunaboy told me that after he picked them up from that ebay guy he installed them and had no fitment issues. He's liking the gains a lot, he just didn't have a lot of time to test them.

They'll be here on Wed.

Got the tracking # soon as I ordered them.

Can't wait for the gains.
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mod addict , you believe the thin steel oem gaskets should be used for the head to header assembly in lieu of the composite gasket included with header shipment? (i have continued slight leakage problems on the stone hrds since the original install)
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Originally Posted by AuCLSman
mod addict , you believe the thin steel oem gaskets should be used for the head to header assembly in lieu of the composite gasket included with header shipment? (i have continued slight leakage problems on the stone hrds since the original install)
no gaskets were given with the headers, i had to go out and buy them on my own from acura
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Originally Posted by AuCLSman
mod addict , you believe the thin steel oem gaskets should be used for the head to header assembly in lieu of the composite gasket included with header shipment? (i have continued slight leakage problems on the stone hrds since the original install)
YES, the oem gaskets took care of the constant leaks at the head flange!

and sorry my in-box is full,... I'll deal w/that later tonight
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Originally Posted by rbf351
no gaskets were given with the headers, i had to go out and buy them on my own from acura
The OEM gaskets for the head flange worked better then the ones that came with the headers. You should be able to use the ones that came off the car.
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thanx for the reply . i guess its time to off-on these pipes one more time
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Originally Posted by AuCLSman
thanx for the reply . i guess its time to off-on these pipes one more time
Take a close look at the OEM gaskets,... the multilayer to single layer must help them seal better.
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i seem to recall 2 distinct thin metal gaskets for each manifold flange. i'll check them and do the reinstall.
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Originally Posted by ModAddict
The OEM gaskets for the head flange worked better then the ones that came with the headers. You should be able to use the ones that came off the car.
i did re use the ones on the car, but it was leaking so i figured they are pretty cheap and got 2 new ones just so no one could say it was my fault they were leaking


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