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Old 02-15-2016, 05:59 PM
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Seeing his stable, probably making money.
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^Yes, no doubt there; however, I mean in the relevant context to the title of this thread.
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The car has now lived in the shops between Car Tunes, Crown Acura and Superior Auto Body for the past 10 months. More lessons have been learned. Specifically with tech, seats, and suspension.
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trying to upload pictures, tried various times, doesn't seem to work

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360 cameras and backup cameras in rearview install - trying to upload pictures is challenging these days
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Dealer wired in both brake lights.


The AVIC8100 is installed with the total overhaul of stereo, Pioneer is working on an OBDII wire specifically for our cars.


Dash pictures, the amber lights are actually red. The only amber lights are the low heat, high heat is red.


The repaint job is the second paint job after the 360 camera install. They scratched the paint in several areas, of course no one fessed up to the damage so waste of money


Repainted the hood and trunk, including the underside the same paint as the outside, very attractive look. They covered the VIN sticker on the hood without me asking, very nice.


I have two sets of LED lighting under the car. One is bright white for alarm/door. The other is in the grille, inside floor and under the car alongside the white LED's. Each set of lights are controlled separately, so I can just have the interior or grille or all on... Yes, it's a toy and unrelated to the rebuild...
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Going over the whole ordeal... There's more lessons to be learned...


1. Stereo shops are not sensitive to the small details of cars. All of them, even the very high end, never do as good as a job as you'd like. Save your detail work and inside car work until after the stereo work is complete.


2. 360 cameras - Not as good as stock systems that are custom made for the cars. After 3 stereo shops have tried to make it like stock, there's still flaws related to the software itself.


3. Backup camera screens built into the rearview - If you have extraordinary bass, the mirror is too heavy for the ball joints and the mirror starts drooping from the joints until it's facing down. I had Acura epoxy the crap out of the mirror. It is no longer movable but at least it doesn't droop from excessive bass vibration.


4. Suspension - Check into shaving down the bushings prior to install. They squeak if you change all the thin stock ones with twice as thick linkage and bushings.


5. Brakes - check the calipers prior to putting your stock rims on, a real pain to redo brakes due to caliper size. Wasted two brake jobs and calipers that didn't fit stock.


6. Radio buttons on the steering wheel - If your radio buttons on your steering wheel for changing channels work intermittently, it's actually the brass grounding ring around the steering wheel column. Just replace that one 5 dollar part, don't waste money replacing the buttons as they are not the issue.


7. LED lights in the dash - LED light manufacturers aren't specific on the quality of lights. Spend MORE on those lights and get good ones. We spent months replacing burned out LED's and off colored lights.


8. Air conditioned seats - It's a no go. After wasting padding on two attempts to try this, it can't be done effectively with a stock look. This was a $8,000 mistake and turned out to be a total waste of effort. The seat cushion padding fits with clips on the stock leather. There is no way to get around this unless you custom leather the seat and don't use the clip points.
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Old 02-19-2016, 08:01 PM
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^Nice updates with pics!

The one thing that I did not see under that hood was the CT-Engineering supercharger?

Did that acquisition fall through?
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Old 02-20-2016, 05:51 AM
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^Nice updates with pics!

The one thing that I did not see under that hood was the CT-Engineering supercharger?

Did that acquisition fall through?


After I thought about it, the need for gauges, the moving of the battery area, and the possible compromise of the engine, along with the transmission, I decided not to.


The one thing that made this car my favorite was the reliability. I know I've tinkered with it some to make it a little bothersome. I think doing more engine work beyond the intake/exhaust could cause more harm than good. Since I'm barely a novice on car timing, it was something I didn't want to try to take on, even with Acura installation.


The speed for me wasn't what I wanted out of this car, I have much faster cars that a supercharger would be insignificant in comparison.
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Old 02-20-2016, 07:19 AM
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Hey Lance: Was CT going to build you a one off set of headers too? I would actually consider a set of those (depending on price of course).
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I ended up going with the Acura tech's idea and got DC headers since they bolted on and didn't change the pitch too much. I was also surprised how cheap they were in comparison with what CT quoted me, literally 10X the price.
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Couple of questions for those experienced...


1. Anyone replace their rims with the new 18 inch TLX rims? I'm worried about ride quality. The grey inset ones bolt on exactly (actually all Acura rims pretty much bolt on interchangeably).


2. Replacing OEM Catalytic converter with Magnaflow. Will there be any noise difference? Will it remain quiet or give fault codes? (all O2 and exhaust have been replaced)


3. Door panels. Does anyone have a source or know anyone who has NEW inside door panels? Mine look fine but it's the ONLY part I can't seem to get my hands on. Everything in the door has been replaced except the panel. All new motors, wires, cable, door check, hinge, buttons, locks, inside armrest, etc...
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3. Door panels. Does anyone have a source or know anyone who has NEW inside door panels? Mine look fine but it's the ONLY part I can't seem to get my hands on. Everything in the door has been replaced except the panel. All new motors, wires, cable, door check, hinge, buttons, locks, inside armrest, etc...
Lance, I googled Acura:
#83533-S3M-A702A; Front door lining; right side, black
#83583-S3M-A702A; Front door lining; left side, black

#12 and 15 on the part pictorial

FRONT DOOR LINING for 2003 Acura CL

2003 Acura CL 2 Door SPORT (NAVIGATION) KA 5AT Front Door Lining

However, just because they are listed may not mean they are readily available and may have been discontinued. Sometimes these webstores don't update their parts lists in a timely manner.
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i wish i could find some decent door panels. mine are warped from miami heat.
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It's wonderful to see the level of effort and dedication you put into this car. To see the amount of satisfaction the cl gives you considering the stable of cars you own and have owned is paramount.
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Exhaust Mods?

Anyone know of any exhaust mods to make my car (03 Cl type s) sound a little meatier but not too loud?
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Why did you ask this in Lance's thread? This would be weird even for Facebook. Search the forum for what other people have already done and posted up for you. Then make a separate thread with any questions you still have.
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Slightly lowering CL-S

Like to slightly lower my 2003 CL-S type. Seen the stance of Lances Acura. A cheap way that does not effect handling, camber it tow.
Thanks for any help guys!
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Why did you ask this in Lance's thread? This would be weird even for Facebook. Search the forum for what other people have already done and posted up for you. Then make a separate thread with any questions you still have.
Because they are noobs and this is one of only threads in 2g CL with any activity. Forum is dead and mods don't even come here anymore.

My door panels are in pristine condition, not even 1 scratch on either. I'll let them go for 5 grand, might need them later to meet racing class rules. Who knew a plastic panel was so important to safety heh.

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^^^SOLD! I'll need you to hold 'em for a few years though. (While I save my quarters, dimes and nickels.)

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Like to slightly lower my 2003 CL-S type. Seen the stance of Lances Acura. A cheap way that does not effect handling, camber it tow.
Thanks for any help guys!
I used ingall and eibach, I don't think it was to pricey but it was the install that was a challenge.
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It's wonderful to see the level of effort and dedication you put into this car. To see the amount of satisfaction the cl gives you considering the stable of cars you own and have owned is paramount.
Thanks. It is still my favorite. My girlfriend loves it the most as well. Now we fight over who drives it.
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Because they are noobs and this is one of only threads in 2g CL with any activity. Forum is dead and mods don't even come here anymore.

My door panels are in pristine condition, not even 1 scratch on either. I'll let them go for 5 grand, might need them later to meet racing class rules. Who knew a plastic panel was so important to safety heh.
Did you end up selling them? I had a company restore the black part. Everything else was attainable.
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Lance! Thanks for all the information! And thanks to all the guys who responded & dig the ride! I was a service manager for BMW and the parts manager for Honda before I went to grad school & law school. I had the pleasure of owning over 46 cars I repaired & resold during my college years!
While working on a Carbon Fiber Ducati in the mid 90's for Carl Fogerty, my boss would have me drive his Acura NSX to his house or garage. I never forgot the feeing of that distinctive gear box. Cut to a week ago when I found a 2003 CL 6 Speed S-type, one owner gem I purchased. It gave me & still does give me the feeing of driving that NSX for the first time...
It's a rarity to take such enormous pleasure just driving to work or the gym. So I don't think it's out of bounds to take delight in rebuilding a beautiful car to make it your own. Congrats Lance & all the guys who still dig turning a wrench or looking to squeeze a little extra horsepower out of that engine. I know this sounds a little touchy feely but its great to know you're out there. Also, that 3.2 engine has a good life span comparable to the old Lexus LS400's. Here in Nashville, we have a CL with 648k on it. No mods.
Hope you're keeping warm in South Florida!
Miss BCC! Keep warm y'all!
Thanks for the warmest compliments. I'm impressed by the amount of cars you've had, very long list.

Taking it to the track, not looking to blaze lap times, just speed safely and test the limits of the car. It's not an nsx, but it's a great car. I've got a 14 Lamborghini and while it's fun only on the track, everything is 500x more expensive when it breaks (everything breaks).
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Lance, I googled Acura:
#83533-S3M-A702A; Front door lining; right side, black
#83583-S3M-A702A; Front door lining; left side, black

#12 and 15 on the part pictorial

FRONT DOOR LINING for 2003 Acura CL

2003 Acura CL 2 Door SPORT (NAVIGATION) KA 5AT Front Door Lining

However, just because they are listed may not mean they are readily available and may have been discontinued. Sometimes these webstores don't update their parts lists in a timely manner.
they were all discontinued unfortunately, the good news is that tech has come a long way in restoration methods.
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they were all discontinued unfortunately, the good news is that tech has come a long way in restoration methods.
Unfortunate indeed. I see you are back on the forums for a visit. If possible and when time permits, post some updated pictures of your finished car!
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they were all discontinued unfortunately, the good news is that tech has come a long way in restoration methods.
since the original post regarding the non availability of new oem 2g cl door trim panels. i have had occasion to examine several (9) cl door trim panels at 5 local pick and pulls here in N/E Maryland. of the nine i examined, three, two black, and one gray, appear cosmetically, to be in "as new" condition, very clean, no warping, no physical damage of any kind, etc. most others were either accidentally or intentionally damaged. the local pick and pull sells either door panel for $20.00 each. i would be interested to know how much it cost you to have yours restored as procuring very nice donor car replacements may be a cheaper alternative. in general, these trim panels are robust, and here in the northeast, not impacted by the extreme heat experienced by those of you in the southeast and far west. procuring a suitable door trim panel here does not appear to be an obstacle. however, shipping cost may be. please let me know how much it cost to have yours restored.
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since the original post regarding the non availability of new oem 2g cl door trim panels. i have had occasion to examine several (9) cl door trim panels at 5 local pick and pulls here in N/E Maryland. of the nine i examined, three, two black, and one gray, appear cosmetically, to be in "as new" condition, very clean, no warping, no physical damage of any kind, etc. most others were either accidentally or intentionally damaged. the local pick and pull sells either door panel for $20.00 each. i would be interested to know how much it cost you to have yours restored as procuring very nice donor car replacements may be a cheaper alternative. in general, these trim panels are robust, and here in the northeast, not impacted by the extreme heat experienced by those of you in the southeast and far west. procuring a suitable door trim panel here does not appear to be an obstacle. however, shipping cost may be. please let me know how much it cost to have yours restored.
The black part to restore locally was about 500/door. The parts I could replace were about 2k/door split between Acuraparts.com and dealer. Looks good I think
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Unfortunate indeed. I see you are back on the forums for a visit. If possible and when time permits, post some updated pictures of your finished car!
Yessir. Car it's complete and enjoying it, I haven't been on any website much since traveling the past year, opened another business that had pulled my focus.
Bought a replacement exotic, it blew up so bought another, been messing with that car lately and the 300zxtt project consumes allot of time.
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Yessir. Car it's complete and enjoying it, I haven't been on any website much since traveling the past year, opened another business that had pulled my focus.
Good to hear! Sounds like you have been busy and a positive cash flow is always a good thing.

IIRC, you were about to replace your transmission for the third time round about this time last year? Did you end up getting that new one from the dealer or ultimately opt for a rebuild? Never the less, it's evident that you are getting the reliability you sought now that you are taking it to the road course for a little play.

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I had the dealer purchase one from Honda and did the Accord transmission. Cost was about the same because I couldn't return the one from the transmission place for a core.

Final was 9k with 1200 core charge.
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^Excellent choice going with the Accord auto transmission.

A solid/proven option to replace the weak original CL gearbox.
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^Excellent choice going with the Accord auto transmission.

A solid/proven option to replace the weak original CL gearbox.
thanks to the great advice on this website and feedback
the invaluable write ups documentation made it easy for the dealership to follow with flawless results
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OMG Absolutely beautiful! I wish my CL was looking that clean!
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Talking Great work!

This is so nice. Great job.

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Wow! Is this car still around? Very impressed
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Wow! Is this car still around? Very impressed
The car is still around. It was finished but it's constantly needing little tweaks, underneath color lighting and cameras due to bad installation by audio shop.

Replacing Eibach with Koni on the shocks. Will see if there's a difference
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Hey Lance, when time permits post some pics of your ride.
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