TRILIGHT

Ok, I've been meaning to buy an impact screwdriver anyway. Guess now is the time. Sorry. Just wanted to vent. Those damn screws REALLY pissed me off tonight! Used PB Blaster and everything!! Anyway, I just wanted to vent. I've done MANY brake jobs on other cars and have NEVER had to deal with bullsh!t screws like this! SO FRAKIN STUPID!!!! I HATE YOU HONDA!!!!! whew...ok... I'm done venting. Sorry.

Allout

Even with an impact screwdriver, on some, I had to drill out the center and then use a cold chisel and hammer to spin them out.

Good luck with them.

BTW - on the new ones, I coated them with anti-seize.

TRILIGHT

Thanks for the tip! I don't plan to put ANY back in! I am unfamiliar with the term "cold chisel". How does this differ from a regular one and define "spin them out". Thanks for the info!! Anything will definitely help since I am going to attack this again tomorrow evening.

Allout

Basically a metal chisel:
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...seBVCookie=Yes


After I've tried to get some screws out and the head has stripped, I've used either a chisel or center punch and placed it on the edge of the screw and tried to drive the screw counter-clockwise. The hammering on the head of the screw using a hammer and chisel is enough to loosen up the threads and corrosion enough to allow the screw to rotate.

Worked for me

TRILIGHT

Ah!! A picture is worth a thousand words. hehe Yeah, actually I have a whole Craftsman set of those. Just didn't know they were called "cold chisels". Thanks again for the tips!

Type S Zero

trick is to hit the screws : place a hammer with a rounded head on the screw, then with another hammer hit the other hammer like twice.

2nd step : use an impact driver

that's how we do it at the dealership and it succeeds about 99.5% of the time
average is like we break 1 screw in 2 years.

TRILIGHT

Sweet! Thanks for the info! Those screws are going to pay tomorrow!!

rockd

Yep, those things are a bitch!!

I got all but one out with an impact screwdriver and a 10 pound sledgehammer (no joke). The last one I had to chisel out... ended up taking me over 8 HOURS to change the front rotors (included 2 trips to Home Depot and an AutoZone).

MarbleGT

you dont even need those screws.....

Titand19

just drill them out, or you could use screw extractors.

m733l

iTrader: (1)

i want to replace those screws. what is the best place to get them? dealer? online? home depot? any thoughts and is there a part #?

GreenMonster

I've dealt with screws on a 25 y/o cars before, and tapping on a stuck screw to loosen it up has always worked for me too... It's a pain in the ass when the screws are dissimiliar metals (like a steel screw into alum. or magnesium on an old aircooled vw engine case) but tapping on 'em (alot more then twice) will loosen 'em up...

RUPNOK

sounds like any of my DIY projects...

little brad

+1.

they are there to keep the rotor on the hub during production. your wheels hold the rotor onto the hub just fine once the car is assembled.

TRILIGHT

LMAO!!!! No sh!t dude!!! For real! I am so used to the "takes an hour for the project and takes 2 for trips back and forth to the store!" I thought I was all set for this one because I have tons of tools. Nope! I really didn't even notice there were screws there at first! I didn't expect it because there shouldn't be any and there is so much rust on everything, I didn't notice them.

@m733l: Seriously dude, do not bother with putting screws back in. Absolutely 100% unnecessary for them to be there in the first place! That being said, the dealer might sell them. However, I would imagine they come in a bag with replacement rotors from Honda if at all.

rondog

iTrader: (1)

Dremel a new cross shape in them, then try.

rockd

Don't even bother getting new ones... I haven't had them since I changed the rotors.

TRILIGHT

Yeah, I don't plan on replacing the screws. Totally useless! As for cutting new lines in them, I've had to do that before, Rondog. Haven't stripped anything here though. Just couldn't get them off with PB Blaster and muscle. I was going to do it tonight but got off of work too late. I'll be picking up an impact screwdriver tomorrow and trying out some of the tips here. I will post back with pics letting everyone know how things went.

TRILIGHT

Ok, welcome to "how to OWN those damn screws" brought to you by your friendly neighborhood Craftsman Impact Screwdriver...



Here is the old rotor next to the new cryo treated Powerslots...



Before...



After...



I felt compelled to post this picture since it freakin rained like 15 minutes after I got finished washing it! Damnit!! Not a cloud in the sky before! Oh well. I guess it could be worse. It could have started raining on me in the middle of the brake job.



Thanks again for the tips everyone! Turns out the Impact Screwdriver was all I needed. Banged on that a few times and it made short work of the whole thing. You might notice I put them back in when I said I wouldn't. I didn't want to but I purchased an extended warranty. I'll have a hard enough time with the aftermarket rotors. I didn't want to push my luck by leaving the screws out and giving the monkees something to complain about.

Axxie01TypeS

Had to drill mine out. Was a hassle. I didn't put any back in & i've had no problems...

Allout

Way to go


BTW - Cryo Powerslots is a very good choice. I'd be very surprised if those warp on you.

TRILIGHT

Thanks!! Should have had an impact screwdriver in the arsenel a long time ago! I read too much about people saying new rotors kept warping on them on this vehicle. I didn't want to have to mess with it again. Stopping is nice and smooth now. Haven't really put them through their paces yet as I'm being careful for a few hundred miles for proper mating. I don't race but I do tend to suffer from road rage from time to time. LOL These should keep my dumb ass out of trouble. The calipers are ugly as hell. I think I might pull them and paint them black.

Axxie01TypeS

I had painted my calipers black @ first & was just wanting a lil more so I decided to try red & i'll say I don't think you'll be disappointed in how they turn out.

TRILIGHT

Oh I know! I agree, it does look nice! I painted the calipers on my Stealth red...



I'm keeping things a little more "low key" on the CL though. I just don't like the ugly rust. I think the black on silver Powerslots would look nice.

Allout

Did you do a bedding process? Here's a link to Stoptech's site on Bedding in Brakes. It includes both theory and procedure.

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp...contents.shtml

TRILIGHT

Not sure what this is in response to, but of course! While most processes are roughly the same, I followed and am continuing to follow the recommended procedure that accompanied the Powerslot rotors. In addition to the initial "bedding" procedure, they suggested doing only moderate braking for the first 500 miles of use. I'll try to keep my road rage in check until then.