Acura CL-S 6 Speed OR Honda Accord Coupe v6 6 Speed

Old 08-05-2003, 06:18 PM
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Acura CL-S 6 Speed OR Honda Accord Coupe v6 6 Speed

Which one of these sexy ladies would you choose, the Acura CL-S 6 Speed OR Honda Accord Coupe v6 6 Speed ???
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Umm......

The Acura......duh.

Looks, prestige, and 20 extra horsies......

No real comp man.
Old 08-05-2003, 06:59 PM
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Re: Umm......

Originally posted by Minch00
The Acura......duh.

Looks, prestige, and 20 extra horsies......

No real comp man.
you're right on the first two... however, keep in mind that the Accord actually has more features then the TL since it's newer. It also has 20 less horsepower, however, due to gearing, torque, weight, etc... it's actually faster and dynos with more power to the wheels. So it's not that easy of a decision....

Personally I'm partial to the CL only b/c I do not like the look of the Accord that much. It's growing on me slowly.. but not enough to consider owning one....
Old 08-05-2003, 07:05 PM
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The CL looks much better than the Accord. Plus its not found as easy as an accord.
Old 08-05-2003, 07:08 PM
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Is this Torquey...?


Sounds like one of his threads...
Old 08-05-2003, 07:13 PM
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CLS6 all the way. Why, I personally think it looks better and there are more mods available for it. Accord might have more features but CLS interior is pretty damn nice!
Old 08-05-2003, 07:19 PM
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ACCORD!!!!!!! not as many people have it and the luxury on it is amazing!!!!! i think the times on the CL-S and accord are similar not to sure though and there will prolly be alot more mods coming for the accord than the CL-S so keep that in mind too. but really your getting the same car just different look....i still love the CL-S dont get me wring fellas just wanted to go against the majority LOL
Old 08-05-2003, 07:30 PM
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Will there be mods for the accord? Isn't the manifold welded onto the engine? doesn't that make it more difficult to do anything from headers to FI? I'm sure someone will figure something out but there doesn't seem to much going on right now for it.
Old 08-05-2003, 07:37 PM
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ferizzo i think your right and that will make it harder but im pretty sure a lot more things will be coming if you think about it accords and civics have always had more mods available for them than most cars. im just making that assumption based on the past....
Old 08-05-2003, 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by ferizzo
Will there be mods for the accord? Isn't the manifold welded onto the engine? doesn't that make it more difficult to do anything from headers to FI? I'm sure someone will figure something out but there doesn't seem to much going on right now for it.
I saw a custom turbo on the new 7th Gen Accord V6!...
Old 08-05-2003, 08:28 PM
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Dynos are not higher on the Accord and it is not faster, I wish people would quit saying that.
I've seen both at the track and have yet to see any 7th gen beat a CL-S 6 speed.
Old 08-05-2003, 10:19 PM
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If the 2003/2004 Accord Coupe 6spd had the same HP/TQ as the 2003 CL-S 6spd, I would honestly say the Accord Coupe looks hotter, but since you get the extra HP/TQ from the CL-S, get that or find something else in your price range...... try for the G35 Coupe.
Old 08-05-2003, 10:28 PM
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well if you'd like to mod your car more then go for the Accord. They'll have a bigger aftermarket than us in no time. The CL-S is nicer in my opinion and is more rare.
Old 08-06-2003, 04:30 AM
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Chances of finding a new 6 speed CLS are slim, better look around to see if you can find one. I'd take the accord though. Just because it would be cheaper in insurance, cheaper in price, & has more features.
Old 08-06-2003, 05:21 AM
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CL-S, the back is nicer, Acura vs Honda is comparing Lexus to Toyota, the same but the 1st is always better and more prestige. I'd rather drive a CL-S where you don't see much of it than every one and their mom and dads have accords. You see a pimped out Accord and go oooh nice, you see a pimped out CL-S and you go OOOHH NIIIIIICE!!!
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No HID's on the Accord.
Old 08-06-2003, 07:19 AM
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you can always get HID's put onto the accord, but i would rather take the Cl-s too the accord sorta looks like a alien space ship
Old 08-06-2003, 07:50 AM
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accord dude. its just as fast, if not faster. its Navi is LIGHTYEARS beyond the navi in the CL. the accord will have TONS more aftermarket support than the CL could ever hope for, the accord dash layout is very much as stylish, if not more stylish than the CL. the CL is a cancelled, discontinued car. service, dealer labor rates, and parts for honda are cheaper than that of acura. the accord is a NEW platform, the CL is based on the OLD generation accord.


the cl has HID's, better leather....and...an acura badge...other than that, the accord has one-upped the CL in every way.
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Originally posted by sonor kid
Dynos are not higher on the Accord and it is not faster, I wish people would quit saying that.
I've seen both at the track and have yet to see any 7th gen beat a CL-S 6 speed.
Where is your info? The if it's faster or not argument is up in the air... b/c different times will happen on different days with different conditions, ect.. I have seen times as quick as 14.5 posted on av6.com in stock form. I've never ever seen a CL-S/TL-S run faster then a 14.7 stock... in fact, 14.7 is the fastest I've seen, and they are very few and far between. One example is here: http://www.v6accord.com/forums/showt...highlight=dyno


The dyno is a fact though. Go to av6.com or one of the other Accord sites and look at some dyno graphs. Stock for stock they're dynoing the same or higher then the CL-S. I've seen dynos range from 226hp/200tq for the manual, to low 200's(around 205hp) for the auto. Those numbers are almost identical to the CL, and the Accord is about 150lbs lighter.

So people are saying that b/c those are the facts. Once the new TL comes out... Acura will be back ahead.... it's just a minor overlap which happens from time to time....
Old 08-06-2003, 10:53 AM
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Old 08-06-2003, 11:07 AM
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New accord looks like crap...go with the CL...
Old 08-06-2003, 11:11 AM
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juniorbean

I have a CLS 6-spd and ran a 14.61 with a icebox cai @ 87deg and very humid, but i would really think about the accord because they will be making more aftermarket parts for a car that is still in production, but don't forget that you could probley get a used 6-spd for 25K or so!

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civic4982 ran a 14.5 with his stock CL 6 speed.

And the Accord, 4 door or 2, looks like ass...
Old 08-06-2003, 11:38 AM
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Even though the cl is being discontinue I still say go with the cl. I've seen to many accord on the road already. Plus the guy on the bimmer site got a 14.1 in his wife's cltypeS 6speed.
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Was in market for these two last fall. what made me choose CL-S:
-most powerful fwd V-6 honda has ever built
-limited slip differential
-classier styling-lower beltline,tasteful chrome.
will age well
-xenon headlamps
-titanium trim is metal not plastic
-more comfortable rear seating. larger rear windows
-better warranty
-best handling fwd car C&D has ever tested,
7\02
-auto press rates it only a couple of points lower than standard bearer-3 series, for 8-10k less
-dealer gave me a good price.accord available only at msrp. wanted 2k over list back in 1/03 at one dealer












-most powerful fwd V-6 honda has ever built.



-limited slip differential
-classier styling-lower beltline,tasteful chrome. will age well.
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My take is the accord the a poor mans acura
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Originally posted by jimcol711
accord dude. its just as fast, if not faster. its Navi is LIGHTYEARS beyond the navi in the CL. the accord will have TONS more aftermarket support than the CL could ever hope for, the accord dash layout is very much as stylish, if not more stylish than the CL. the CL is a cancelled, discontinued car. service, dealer labor rates, and parts for honda are cheaper than that of acura. the accord is a NEW platform, the CL is based on the OLD generation accord.


the cl has HID's, better leather....and...an acura badge...other than that, the accord has one-upped the CL in every way.
ill put my CL-S against any Accord performance wise, audio-video wise, look wise, prestige wise...I cannot remember how many times people look at my car and still say what kinda car I drive and think its the 2004 acura...


My navi is better than the accord except for the voice still mine recalculates faster and gets updated annually. I can watch movies in Dolby pro logic while I drive and work the navi while Im driving....not only that but the new Alpine software 2.0 that has over 11 million points of interest....I dont know but the Cl-S can almost rock the shit outta of the new accord if you ask me.
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I'd say Accord since the CL-S is officially dead--except it is so
fu(king ugly!
CL-S!
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Hey, I got a 14.2 bone-stock
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Juniorbean,

Torquaholic's 7th gen Accord w/Injen CAI & 93 octane only pulled 193 whp, Sonorkid's 2001 Cl Type S w/ Comptech Icebox pulled 210 whp, same dyno , same conditions , both SAE corrected.

I have also personally seen a stock 6 speed 7th gen Accord w/93 octane pull 212 whp on that same dyno. I think the 6 speed cl pulls 220 whp?
These are #s that I have actually witnessed on a dynojet dyno.

So IMO I think both versions (auto and manual) Cl Type S's are faster than their counter parts.

Also having watched both Torquy's car and sonorkid's car at the track all summer , I can honestly say that the Cl is an average .2 seconds faster with the same traps. Torq's best time ever was a 14.79 in 25 degree temps, sonorkid has pulled a 14.50 in 70 degree temps with ONLY Icebox.

Bottom line , stock for stock or equally modded, the Cl Type S is faster , more comfortable, classier, and better looking than ANY generation Accord. I wish I had invested all my cash in a Cl Type S instead of my Accord.
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Accord's do now have telescoping wheel as well. I still like my Cl-S over the new Accord though.
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Originally posted by lou

My navi is better than the accord except for the voice still mine recalculates faster and gets updated annually. I can watch movies in Dolby pro logic while I drive and work the navi while Im driving....not only that but the new Alpine software 2.0 that has over 11 million points of interest....I dont know but the Cl-S can almost rock the shit outta of the new accord if you ask me.
nice post
anyone with money can buy a nice AFTERMARKET navi and sound system, and other nice electronics. i think most people are comparing them stock for stock.
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Originally posted by STANLEY MALYSHK
Was in market for these two last fall. what made me choose CL-S:
-best handling fwd car C&D has ever tested,
7\02

either C&D is smoking crack, or you have your information wrong. were they testing it with cars in its own class? there are more than a number of fwd cars i can think of that would tear the cl-s up in handling. i.e.- ITR
the cl-s handles better than average for a car like that, but it's certainly not the best handling car ever...unless that's the only fwd car C&D has tested. LOL
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what front wheel drive handles better?
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Originally posted by iNteGraz92
nice post
anyone with money can buy a nice AFTERMARKET navi and sound system, and other nice electronics. i think most people are comparing them stock for stock.
I know it might sound very bad but I hate the cl-s being compared to a newer car and say that its better....wouldnt you say that the newer car will always have the advantage. You can always upgrade the navi but everything else that makes the total package is more difficult.
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read my post again
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allmotor2000... you got a 14.2 bone stock? with those shitty stock tires? You've gotta teach me how to do that =P
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Originally posted by dgracer
Accord's do now have telescoping wheel as well. I still like my Cl-S over the new Accord though.
Yeah, but it is mechanical - which blows compared to the electric tilt/telescoping wheel in my Legends. When I take the key out of the ignition the wheel moves back and up.

A coworker just bought the Accord and I didn't drive it but sat in it and it just doesn't feel/look as good or as quality as the CLS. The V6 EX 6spd doesn't even have memory seats!
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Originally posted by zigzagzig
either C&D is smoking crack, or you have your information wrong. were they testing it with cars in its own class? there are more than a number of fwd cars i can think of that would tear the cl-s up in handling. i.e.- ITR
the cl-s handles better than average for a car like that, but it's certainly not the best handling car ever...unless that's the only f
Nwd car C&D has tested. LOL
NO ERROR SEE C&D REVIEWS ARCHIVE UNDER ACURA 3.2 CL ARTICLE NAME HOBSON'S CHOICE BY BROCK YATES PAGE 2 JULY 2002. THE WORD THEY USE IS 'FINEST' HANDLING FWD WE EVER TESTED. ITS A GREAT ARTICLE. CHECK IT OUT . I'VE BEEN READING C&D FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND THEY USE SUPERLATIVES SPARINGLY.
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Originally posted by sonor kid
Dynos are not higher on the Accord and it is not faster
OH REALLY?

217whp/195wtq S T O C K 6 spd accord



195WHP/175WTQ S T O C K auto accord


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