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Old 07-11-2019, 09:21 AM
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Yes definitely thanks guys for all the help and extra insight
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Old 07-11-2019, 09:28 AM
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If your interested, I have a CLS6 clutch case off a trans I parted out. $200 shipped.
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Ya you got the bell housing 200 shipped
What part of the planet you reside lol
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First day



Had to remove dash to put in clutch pedal


Day 2

New front end hood bumper black headlights

The day i bought the car blown auto tranny 233k miles faded paint no spoiler

Got it back from paint shop had auto ecu with torque converter code and check engine light only went to 4800 rpm had to put 440 ohm resistor on map sensor signal wire to trick voltage so ecu would pass 2k rpm
ran rich but good

Finally got 3780 pge a11 ecu and wiring harness

There was a motorcycle accident in front of me on the 5 fwy since i ride and have been in an accident i stopped to help the biker he was fuked up

While my car sat in shoulder as i helped him a tow truck going the other way lost his fkn tire jumped the center divider and hit my car at like 65 mph luckily thats all the damage but i was pissed chp even said no good deed goes unpunished right i was like fu lol

Tow truck had progressive and they gave me a check from an estimate of 2900 so i bought a door for 365 a fender for 65 and

A nice set of 18" helos satin black with some 225 45 18 zr tires

And got it repainted satin black!!!! I felt better

Now i am back here trying to figure out this damn ckp sensor issue and pissed off again but im sure the next pic will have a huge fuckin smiley face when im done! What do you guys think so far
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Ive been doing honda 4 bangers for a while this is my first v6 got the car for a steal and thought it would be fun lol ive spent like 12k on this fkn one i just wish you could chip the ecus on these that aem ecu is fuking expensive and some people say it sucks i always chipped the ecus and used crome to map em my favorite still so far is a 91 accord ex 2 door with a Japanese f22b twin cam non vtec with i think it was a p32 chipped crome tuned stage 3 cams cam gears hdr intk exh valves spings milled head port and polish nothing on the bottom end all stock , stage 2 clutch lsd 5spd msd ignition and coil god what else anyway it would hit 183 top end and got there from 70mph fkn quick but ya this is just a problem i have never seen and im like what so ya now I gotta figure it out and i noticed while doing this research that alot of people are into these j swaps i just wanted to make it manual transmission but i found the j32 on ebay for 900 then i know the cl tl accord rl and others all the 6 spds from certain years all have the same bolt pattern and i knew the cl s auto and mt had different setup and different ecus from working on them so at work i ordered all the parts per application cls 6mt sport navigation engine harness crank pulley cam pulley ckp sensor tdc sensors etc wow i went on for a long time my bad so ya i found this post and bam here we are so thanks guys for your help i appreciate it never done this before seems cool and if you got any questions let me know Thanks
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12K is a lot of money to invest into a car that can easily be totaled (hopefully not by another tow truck)...My hats off to you.

Since you've spent this much on it already, why not get the correct bell housing for the CKP sensor? I'm wondering if the exact placement of the sensor relative to the fly wheel (which I am assuming it is pulsing off of) needs to be positioned such the the pulses from the B sensor must be in sync or offset with that of the A sensor on the timing belt end. in other words, unless the sensor is dead on, it may pulse too soon or too late and will throw the CEL code again.

thoughts anyone?

Any plans for work on the chrome window trim?
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Lol not the first to mention that i have thought it over and over just not sure what to do dont think i will like it same color as car i think it will make the paint job look cheap would have to be creative and nothing has come to mind yet i can worry about those details after the important shit is done say im gonna try drilling and seeing what i can do so if it works others will know how and know it works if not i will get the case for 200 and swap it out and ya but ive spent 9k on the car not just the swap i got the motor for 900 tranny shifter cables clutch pedal ecu master cylinder lines all of it for 1500 the cls ecu for 250 clutch for 250 auto conv parts for 350 type s cams 250 regrinds from crower 600 thats 3100 add 200 for misc shit thats 3300 not too bad 1/3 of 9k
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Sorry 1/4 of 12k that leaves 9k
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Mariner View Post

And got it repainted satin black!!!! I felt better

Now i am back here trying to figure out this damn ckp sensor issue and pissed off again but im sure the next pic will have a huge fuckin smiley face when im done! What do you guys think so far


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say im gonna try drilling and seeing what i can do so if it works others will know how and know it works if not i will get the case for 200 and swap it out
That's a nice looking Accord there. One can see all the excellent hard work you put into it to get it this far. It will be a blast to drive once you get the CKP-B issue resolved.
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That's a nice looking Accord there. One can see all the excellent hard work you put into it to get it this far. It will be a blast to drive once you get the CKP-B issue resolved.
I agree! the matte black really brings out the lines.
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Originally Posted by whitetiger5 View Post
12K is a lot of money to invest into a car that can easily be totaled (hopefully not by another tow truck)...My hats off to you.

Since you've spent this much on it already, why not get the correct bell housing for the CKP sensor? I'm wondering if the exact placement of the sensor relative to the fly wheel (which I am assuming it is pulsing off of) needs to be positioned such the the pulses from the B sensor must be in sync or offset with that of the A sensor on the timing belt end. in other words, unless the sensor is dead on, it may pulse too soon or too late and will throw the CEL code again.

thoughts anyone?

Any plans for work on the chrome window trim?
The two pictures below pretty much confirm / summate your 'positioning logic' above. Especially the second one that shows the 'side view' of the sensor relative to the clutch case. It looks like the individual below had the same CKP-B dilemma, as Charlie Mariner.

Originally Posted by poormansr View Post
ive been collecting pictures of the metal sleeve ** to make my own **
gettin pictures of the crank sensor.. comparing them to other honda crank sensors..
getting pictures of the Location of where the hole is on the cls6 manual transmission.. so future accord 6spd and acura TL/TLS owners can drive into there bell housings.. if using a cls6 manual Ecu..


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I generally don't come into the model specific subforums, but when one gets a PM from zeta , one must respond

I had TL 6mt swapped into my CL-S6 when the diff bearings went bad. There are two ways to go about this:

1) swap the bellhousing (pain in the ass)
2) make a jig from the original bell housing and drill and tap the new one in the correct location (less pain in the ass)

The jig was pretty simple, just use the mounting holes (from trans to engine) as references and measure from there, then you can transfer it to the new bell housing. Make sure the crank sensor is installed at the correct depth though - too far and it won't read properly, too close and it'll foul on the flywheel.

I guess there's a third way - run a stand alone ECU. I wish I had some pics from mine, but I can't seem to find them. Good luck
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Thanks civicdrivr! You are a repository of 2G CL data. Just thought I'd 'reach out' for posterities sake.

Not sure how it will turn out for Charlie, but that is some great information above as to how to start.

Thanks again!
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Yes thanks those are great pics there too make the guesswork a lot less guessy ha ha lol he said guessy
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And thanks for the compliments on the car i agree that color makes it pop when i asked them to paint it that color i was soo nervous on how it would look but obviously when i went to pick it up i was definitely impressed
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I'm in Toronto.

Goodluck either way. Keep us posted.
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