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Old 05-06-2015, 11:35 AM
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They're not going to follow every detail that took place in the comics.
Well, yeah...clearly. With Selina now suddenly a gang member.

And I don't think Nygma started out as someone in the GCPD.
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Not a gang member, a member of Fish's posse.




Ya the writing is questionable.
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:48 AM
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Feels like the idiots at LOST decided to set up shop for this TV series.
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:49 AM
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I'm probably not watching Season 2. At most, give it 1-2 episodes to redeem itself...but, wow...one of the worst season finales I can remember to-date.
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I'm liking The Flash much more. Its not a great show by any means but enjoyable at least.
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I'm probably not watching Season 2. At most, give it 1-2 episodes to redeem itself...but, wow...one of the worst season finales I can remember to-date.
That's because they weren't sure there was going to be a season two. Hard for the writers to really do anything.

But the do need to think things through...
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Old 05-06-2015, 02:00 PM
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I'm liking The Flash much more. Its not a great show by any means but enjoyable at least.
Yeah, it's better. Still would've preferred a different cast...as this one just doesn't really do it for me aside from Barry's Dad #2 and Mr. Reverse Flash. The rest are, meh.
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Old 05-06-2015, 02:00 PM
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That's because they weren't sure there was going to be a season two. Hard for the writers to really do anything.

But the do need to think things through...
Cop out answer.

They knew there was going to be a season 2 before the finale was written or at least before its final draft.
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Old 05-06-2015, 02:01 PM
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I'm liking The Flash much more. Its not a great show by any means but enjoyable at least.
I think its a good show, and it knows how to play to its strengths. Good writers on that one.
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Thank God I was setting up my kid's bday present or else I'd have offed myself. I'll borrow Sarlacc's post to recap my thoughts.

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Barbara's storyline has completely gone off the rails. Just fucking get rid of her.


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The whole episode was all over the place. What the fuck was up with Butch suddenly being under some sort of mind reprogramming, did I miss something in prior episodes?

Selina suddenly becoming a gun toting thug because its fun? Yeah wtf was that. Did the writers really assume she would join Fish's gang just like that. Did she really hate Gordon that much?

Fish? Glad to see her goneI agree. What was the point of her whole kidnapping arc? Was that so they get her to sign for the show? Should've hired a nobody and wacked her 5 episodes back.

Marone...SO glad they killed himI kind of liked him but I think it's way too soon and really stupid how they killed him off. Really nobody saw it coming that she'd shoot him? UGH. I was hoping they'd kill him like in Arkham Origins and have the Joker do it as his "debut"

Falcone...probably the best character this episode. The whole Jim Gordon connection with the knife though...ughI guess they needed a reason for him to take out Loeb. But yeah I love this actor especially in the Wire.

Penguin...well at least he finally grew some balls.Started off great, but little by little misused more and more

Nygma...now hes a schizo? Pass, lame. They're kind of running with this whole I killed someone, therefore I'm a wackjob. I can understand Barbara because Ogre made her kill her parents. I liked Nygma but I need to see how they'll handle this.

There is just so much more that doesn't make sense...and is just out of left field. This show jumped the shark hard.
And speaking of Barbara, I'm really curious how they'll make Jim fall in love with this annoying lunatic and marry her. At least Bruce's story is getting better and they introduced Lucius.

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Old 05-07-2015, 09:29 AM
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Thank God I was setting up my kid's bday present or else I'd have offed myself. I'll borrow Sarlacc's post to recap my thoughts.



And speaking of Barbara, I'm really curious how they'll make Jim fall in love with this annoying lunatic and marry her. At least Bruce's story is getting better and they introduced Lucius.
Marone's speech impediment was annoying as hell.

Agreed that Penguin started strong and then was wasted.

All the Bruce stuff...they all realized they fucked up so bad on their original concept that QUICKLY went to exactly what they said they weren't going to do...deal with Bruce and Batman. My friend called it from day one. You can't have Gotham without Batman.

Everything else. This show is the worst and totally fails at its original concept. I give up.
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Old 09-08-2015, 12:12 AM
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in 2 weeks (Sept 21)

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Old 09-15-2015, 12:44 PM
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If you guys haven't hopped off this show and are a Playstation Plus member, you can watch the season 2 premiere right now (or save it for later). Might check it sometime this week. Better be good
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Old 09-21-2015, 05:27 PM
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Tonight

Hope season 2 is better than season 1, otherwise I think I'm done with the show.
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Old 09-21-2015, 06:27 PM
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It was meh. The story is so fucking all over the place it's not even funny.

Barbra is just WTF. Even more than before. Now she's speaking with pseudo Joker. WTF.

Selina Kyle is now WTF. Cat references all around but I suppose she lost her first owner and is know onto house keeper #2? Why did that even start?


I have stepped back at this point and am no longer viewing this show as a true batman origin. Nor a true origin to ANY of the characters. lol

Instead I am watching to show as an alt reality or timeline as is done often in comic books. It's simply another artists take on the world of Gotham. This is fine once I accept that.

Knowing the characters but knowing I have no idea what will happen because they have walked so far away from what we know makes it worth watching again.... aside from the fact that just nothing is adding up to anything.

Suddenly Bruce doesnt even remember Selina. He mentally aged another 15 years in 1 episode. Suddenly Harvey is out of the picture? Did I skip a season?

My mind cant stop swimming around Selina though. How the hell and when the hell did she make that transformation? Why is she rubbing on people like a cat? wtf
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Old 09-21-2015, 09:11 PM
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Have it on PVR...will catch it later.
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:03 AM
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Was hoping for better but got meh. Will keep watching to see how things play out for now.

For some reason, Zaardon reminded me of Dynamo from Running Man

At least we have new eye candy in the form of Tabitha "Tigress" Galavan (Jessica Lucas)


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Old 09-22-2015, 08:53 AM
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What the hell is going on with this show? It truly is all over the place.

We have the discovery of the cave, but now Bruce's dad had already did some of the work? What the fuck?

I keep thinking Barbara is a prelude to a Harley Quinn, hell she looks like one, but I don't think they are going that route, esp with the young joker, if that's who he really is, is much younger than her.

I agree, the only thing that was good about this past episode was Tigress. I've been a fan of her since I saw her in Cloverfield. That rack never disappoints.
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Old 09-22-2015, 08:55 AM
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Watched the season premiere last night....losing interest but will still keep watching.
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Apparently, Fox sent reviewers the first 2 to 3 episodes of season 2, and the reviews for them aren't too good.

- Review: ‘Gotham’ Season 2 Is Still the Worst Show on Television

- ‘Gotham’ Season 2 Review: Villains Rise as the Show Sinks
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Old 09-22-2015, 10:47 AM
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Saw it...meh. I will give the series one more episode next week and likely, not watch it.

Talk about going off the deep-end of the Gotham/Batman mythos, IMO.
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I'm not watching. I was done at the end of last season.

This show is pure shit.
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:54 PM
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Saw it...meh. I will give the series one more episode next week and likely, not watch it.

Talk about going off the deep-end of the Gotham/Batman mythos, IMO.
They warned you before the show started, that it would be your mythos...,
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Old 09-25-2015, 07:28 AM
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I'm on the ropes. If Hulu had Fear the Walking Dead I would've watched that instead of this but was too lazy to change apps. Anyhow, I wonder if Bullock comes back as he was one of the best parts of the show. Same for Falcone or did his agent get him out of there. Sadly the Riddler is turning into annoying schizo. Cat Woman all of a sudden is a thug. Bats not figuring out the riddle really was meh. That's his specialty but maybe it's just to show he's still got learning to do.
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I heard that Gordon and Dr Lee actually hooked up in real life and she's now expecting...
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^True as per comicbook.com. I'd hit it too
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Better episode...
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As I have said. Watching the show with any hopes brought from being a DC or Batman fan will leave you very upset.

But watching the show as a completely unique spin off of the batman/gotham universe is still enjoyable... minus the clear plot holes of course.
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Old 09-28-2015, 08:09 PM
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But watching the show as a completely unique spin off of the batman/gotham universe is still enjoyable... minus the clear plot holes of course.
No...its not. Just stop being a fanboy and admit that as a show period, its shit.
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Didn't watch it...stopped taping the series. Oh well.
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Didn't watch it...stopped taping the series. Oh well.
Same...it just sucked balls.
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Same...it just sucked balls.
Well, I think the part that got me WTFing was when Gordon committed a murder and they decided to kill of Roman Sionis...

And then, they made Nigma schizo...? I mean, I don't recall the Riddler ever being written like that ever...?


So, just a bit too off the deep end for me. And add in no Batman...eh, I think it's enough.
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And then, they made Nigma schizo...? I mean, I don't recall the Riddler ever being written like that ever...?
That's whatever to me. I can see Enigma being a schizo.

What bugs me is how down hill Barbara Gordon's character went. Technically without a Barbara Gordon there is no... Barbara Gordon. hahahaha I mean that as in Jim and Barbara are supposed to have a child they name Barbara. This Barbara becomes Batgirl. Joker attempts to kill or injure Batgirl to fuck with B-man and leaves her paralyzed from the waist down. She hangs up the cowl and becomes the Oracle.

With Barbara One going crazy we will never see Barbara Two born or the birth of Batgirl or the Oracle.
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Stupid I know but my money is they turn Barbara into Harley Quinn. She looks to fit the picture and her interactions with the obvious Joker is uncanny.

I hate the idea. But watch it happen. I guess most of you wont watch as you'll be done in the next few episodes. But I bet it happens.
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Well, I think the part that got me WTFing was when Gordon committed a murder and they decided to kill of Roman Sionis...

And then, they made Nigma schizo...? I mean, I don't recall the Riddler ever being written like that ever...?


So, just a bit too off the deep end for me. And add in no Batman...eh, I think it's enough.
But, you'll keep watching it and whining, like you did with Lost......
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yeah i'm a sucker for shows like this but i couldn't even get myself to watch the whole first season. doesn't sound like i'm missing anything.
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I'll try. My buddy loves the show still and loved the season finale. If I wasn't best friends with him and godfather to his daughter then I'd cut him off.
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Sooooooooo I shouldn't watch the 2nd episode?
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I thought it was a better episode
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Yeah, ep 2 was better than 1. I'll still watch. For now.
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