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Old 06-07-2013, 07:05 AM
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I think my problem was that I hydrated more than usual on thurs. and fri. because it was going to be hot. I should have taken my eletrolytes on those days. I had plenty of tablets during the ride.

Which garmin do you have? I bought the 510 and it's been great so far.
That would do it, you flushed a lot from your system.

And I had the 705, and have had it for 4 years.
I just picked up the 810 bundle for $480 from one of my riding buddies, he is a Garmin dealer. That would have been the price for the stand alone unit from anywhere else.
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So, I'm currently borrowing a friends spare bike...which is a Trek Hybrid. Works fine, does the job for now for free.

But I have looked at some bikes for the future if I stick with this. Anyone have any opinions on:

Scott Sub 10

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Cannondale Quick 4

Or is sticking with a hybrid/urban style bike not a good move?
You are not going to go wrong with either of those bike manufacturers. and unless you are going to be going on long group rides the hybrid/urban style is fine
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Agree with Mark on the bike style. I started on a mountain bike but had hand numbness problems and on long rides my elbows didn't like to be rotated. In retrospect the hand numbness was probably weight too far forward, but the elbow rotation was bar style.

Most important thing is the bike fits -- meaning proper position and no discomfort over the length of your rides caused by the position.

Mark I have the 510 and it's been solid too. I don't use the advanced features much though -- just display a page of data as I'm riding. Are you keeping up with the firmware updatess?
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Mark I have the 510 and it's been solid too. I don't use the advanced features much though -- just display a page of data as I'm riding. Are you keeping up with the firmware updatess?
The 705 they stopped updating almost 2 years ago. When they came out with the 5/800 series they changed the code base and stopped maintenance on the 700 series.

And I use the mapping features often. as we do a lot of rides out of the area and rely on the courses and turn by turn navigation so we don't have to stare at queue sheets.
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Yeah that's code the 510 doesn't have. I did try the course feature out last weekend, and it didn't crash but it really limited the data I was able to see. I will probably use it only rarely.
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Originally Posted by Beelzebub View Post
You are not going to go wrong with either of those bike manufacturers. and unless you are going to be going on long group rides the hybrid/urban style is fine
Well, I dont think I am doing a century anytime soon...or ever (who knows) but I would like to be able to go further than the current 17 miles I'm at.

The Scott is a belt driven 8 speed, the Cannondale is a more traditional chain derailur set up.

I always figure handlebars, etc can be swapped over time if need be.

I just happened to see the Scott while I was at REI yesterday and fell in love...but I'm not in a position to just drop 1300 on new gear...especially only having been out riding twice.
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc View Post
Well, I dont think I am doing a century anytime soon...or ever (who knows) but I would like to be able to go further than the current 17 miles I'm at.

The Scott is a belt driven 8 speed, the Cannondale is a more traditional chain derailur set up.

I always figure handlebars, etc can be swapped over time if need be.
Go to a local century and you'll see all kinds of bikes, but road bikes are certainly the prevalent variety.

Belt drive = nice because sand doesn't bother it. IGH = nice because everything is sealed up. Downside -- less efficient (more of your power goes to waste), and kind of wide spacing on the gears (I have an 1 x 8-speed Alfine on my commuter bike, but with chain drive). Sometimes it is hard for me to find the just-right gear, but I am spoiled by the 2x10 and 3x10 setups on all my other bikes.

Handlebars can be swapped, but drop bars can be funny on a MTB frame and flat bars funny on a road frame. Reason is the reach to the bars is taken into account when designing the dimensions of the frame. A mountain frame that is just right with the typical short stem and flat bars of a mountain bike will feel wayyy too long in the top tube if you try to put a longer road stem and drop bars on it.
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For those of you that use Strava

this is a pretty cool addon

It shows all the road you have ever ridden on and the redder the road the more you have ridden on it.
http://x.raceshape.com/heatmap

This is mine. It shows the rides in France and Italy as well.

http://x.raceshape.com/heatmap/view....03945cee96ab9c
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Sweet.

I rode 0.5 miles more than you this morning.
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It is about time.
Well you averaged 18.6 I was at 19.2 Solo.
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It is about time.
Well you averaged 18.6 I was at 19.2 Solo.
It is all about time. My time was much longer therefore I win.
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Great ride today
Went up to New Paltz, NY to get a couple of mountain climbs in

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When do you head to Europe?
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mid July.
I will be there for the 2 laps up alpe d'huez.
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Sweet. I'm heading to northern Cal around then, but no biking -- 25th anniversary trip and I can't afford to not make it to 26.
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Encountered a friendly-but-clueless triathlete on a ride this weekend, riding a really cool Cervelo P5 with Zipp 404 Firecrests and Dura-Ace Di2.

- His front derailleur wasn't shifting. I told him when the battery gets low, it'll stop running the front first because the power drain is so much higher. He gave me this look . Turned out he didn't know that his electronic shifting had a battery, and that on top of that it needed occasional recharging.

- He didn't know where he was, trying to follow a printed map with minimal detail so we told him he could tag along. He told us he was willing to "push" the group if we'd tell him where to go.

- So we let him pull. He was fast but surged a lot. We came up to a turn and as it turns out he had headphones in and music blasting, so he couldn't hear us yelling to turn right. He kept going straight and we all turned right and didn't see him again.

I hope he didn't get lost and that he got home before his battery went completely dead and left him with one gear.
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Originally Posted by svtmike View Post
Sweet. I'm heading to northern Cal around then, but no biking -- 25th anniversary trip and I can't afford to not make it to 26.
Enjoy. Too bad about the lack of biking, its pretty awesome anywhere north of the GGB. I assume this is more of a winery oriented trip?
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Enjoy. Too bad about the lack of biking, its pretty awesome anywhere north of the GGB. I assume this is more of a winery oriented trip?
Only one day of wineries. One of SF, one PCH/hiking.

Going with one of my buddies (also a rider) and his wife. The wives would not enjoy a long cycling day at all.
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Well, I dont think I am doing a century anytime soon...or ever (who knows) but I would like to be able to go further than the current 17 miles I'm at.

The Scott is a belt driven 8 speed, the Cannondale is a more traditional chain derailur set up.

I always figure handlebars, etc can be swapped over time if need be.

I just happened to see the Scott while I was at REI yesterday and fell in love...but I'm not in a position to just drop 1300 on new gear...especially only having been out riding twice.
The other guys in here are bike experts so I always defer to them, but I AM an expert in leaping before I look, so...

Having said that, find your bike size and buy a used bike. I wish I had. My bike is great, fits pretty good, etc, but I didn't really know what "perfect" would feel like because i had not ridden a road bike for any distances before. It may have colored my choice in bicycle had I had that 6 months to a year or so of riding a bike regularly to determine what really feels right. Just an opinion, take it for what it's worth. If you get measured in Cannondales, go find a Cannondale a couple of years old and get it. If you love riding after a year, sell it and get the exact bike you want, because you will know what feels right and does not.
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Originally Posted by stogie1020 View Post
The other guys in here are bike experts so I always defer to them, but I AM an expert in leaping before I look, so...

Having said that, find your bike size and buy a used bike. I wish I had. My bike is great, fits pretty good, etc, but I didn't really know what "perfect" would feel like because i had not ridden a road bike for any distances before. It may have colored my choice in bicycle had I had that 6 months to a year or so of riding a bike regularly to determine what really feels right. Just an opinion, take it for what it's worth. If you get measured in Cannondales, go find a Cannondale a couple of years old and get it. If you love riding after a year, sell it and get the exact bike you want, because you will know what feels right and does not.
This is excellent advice.

You won't know what you like and especially what you dislike about a bike until you've lived with it for quite a while.

I learned from my first road bike that I don't like twitchy steering and my arms don't like a stiff ride. That lead me to my second road bike, with a longer wheelbase for more stable steering and a "plush" frame to soak up the bumps.

I'd have really regretted spending as much on my first bike as I did on the second.
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Yea my Seven is a very twitchy bike at speed, it does not have the race geometry.

When I hit 51 on Sunday it does take all my concentration and skill to keep the bike upright.
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anyone familiar with bikesdirect dot com ?

im shoping for a bike and it looks like they have steal deals
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Never dealt with them, so cannot give a review.

My ride today

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Nice ride up in Bear Mountain territory. Had my best time up Bear Mountain. Sub 18 minute and second time up I was only 27 seconds slower. I guess I am ready for France.
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When do you head to france?
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A little less than a month.
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100k race tomorrow. It's gonna rain. Can't wait. Rolling with my Dev team, 19 strong. Will be fun!
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Did a 70 miler today in Wisconsin with lots of 20% pitches.

Ouch ouch ouch ouch.
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100k race tomorrow. It's gonna rain. Can't wait. Rolling with my Dev team, 19 strong. Will be fun!
Nice, whats the temp supposed to be?

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Did a 70 miler today in Wisconsin with lots of 20% pitches.

Ouch ouch ouch ouch.
Beat me in both mileage and vertical today.

We only had quite a few 14/15% on my ride today
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40 miles with ~2400 ft climbing. Lots of "rollers" around here.
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I have the Sprint 350's with the ceramic hubs, the lightest non-tubular rims on the market when I bought this bike. Going on around 15000 miles on these rims and still going strong.
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I shouldn't have said anything.
My rear rim is shot. I was riding and I kept hearing "tink. tink..."
I get home and 1 spoke is completely loose.

I bring it to the bike shop and he tries to true it.
I get a call later that it could either be true or tight but not both. He called up American Classic and they are going to replace the rim and spokes for $125. So basically I will have a brand new rim for $125. I also asked for a second set of rim decals so I can take the old logo off the front wheel and replace it with the new graphics.
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$125 is not a bad price at all for rim and spokes.

How much of the braking surface is left on the front? I'd expect that might have a fair amount of wear after 15000 miles.
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That sucks beelze, but sounds like you're getting things sorted.
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New wheels came in yesterday. Race today. Works for me.

I know very little about bikes but those looks awesome. I remember a group of surgeons that I used to run into a lot and they would always be showing off new bike things, I swear one guy had the same rear wheel (because I thought it said HEAD ). If I remember correctly, he said it was just under $2k

Those guys spent $10-20k on their bikes so I didn't doubt it but can now appreciate your purchase more haha Do you notice a difference?
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Race was ok, left my climbing legs at home, just couldn't hold the pack when we hit the KOM hill. Solo'd in TT style for 65km. Finished 169th of ~700. It rained epically until the final 20mins. At points it hurt so much I just had to close my eyes and keep pedaling.


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I know very little about bikes but those looks awesome. I remember a group of surgeons that I used to run into a lot and they would always be showing off new bike things, I swear one guy had the same rear wheel (because I thought it said HEAD ). If I remember correctly, he said it was just under $2k

Those guys spent $10-20k on their bikes so I didn't doubt it but can now appreciate your purchase more haha Do you notice a difference?

This bike is just meant for going fast in a straight line. It isn't meant for any significant climbing, group rides, or anything technical. I notice a big difference over the road bike just because I'm in a much more aerodynamic position. Most of the races I do don't allow for any type of drafting so it is much more beneficial. There isn't really a practical purpose to the bike otherwise and I'm on the road bike about 90% of the time.
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I need to get back on my bike. Only have 60 miles in this year so far
That puts me about 800 miles behind my YTD2012 mileage.

91* & humid today.
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im not into road bike but more into mountain bike and jumps i used to do that like 6 years ago now i gained some weight and i thought it would be great way to lose it and i fell in love with bikes again

so i bought new 29er on XT/XTR Rockshox Reba RL 29 and Avid 7 brakes i cant wait for it to arrive (i bought it online)
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