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Old 10-19-2016, 07:01 PM
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It's called recruiting.
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Yea yea I know about that. But still. They pay the military for those fly bys.
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maybe, maybe not. after all, we already paid for that. as a taxpayer, that B2 pretty much belongs to us.
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I think payment depends on the situation. I've read that for the most part, the military calls them "training" flights and will just do them. And the military gets the free advertising/exposure. I think if anything the military gets pressure for calling it training.

I've read that the bigger issue is the military paying for opportunities to have these special military-related days at sporting events (something like a "military appreciation day" type of event). The military does pay for that privilege and writes it off as recruiting. That I read came under fire as getting way too excessive.
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Yeah, I'm not an expert but I was under the impression that fly-bys like that for colleges would fall under a certain "umbrella" and be waived or something.

If say the NFL wanted a fly-by, that would be different.

I just saw these posts and thought I'd respond. My brother is the president of Watkins Glen International and gets a C-130 to do a fly over at the culmination of the National Anthem on NASCAR weekend. He has told me the track pays for that to happen. So in line with some of the responses, the event promoter does in fact pay the military for the privilege. I'm sure there are non-paying times (Army-Navy game? ) July 4th celebrations and the like but for private entities it's time to pony up the simoleans.
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Old 11-08-2016, 02:53 PM
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I just saw these posts and thought I'd respond. My brother is the president of Watkins Glen International and gets a C-130 to do a fly over at the culmination of the National Anthem on NASCAR weekend. He has told me the track pays for that to happen. So in line with some of the responses, the event promoter does in fact pay the military for the privilege. I'm sure there are non-paying times (Army-Navy game? ) July 4th celebrations and the like but for private entities it's time to pony up the simoleans.
Thanks for the info, appreciate it!!!
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not exactly military but cool as hell !!!

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How The First Allied Plane Over D-Day Was Nearly Lost And Chopped Apart In A Boneyard

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Meh, those bombs are retarded...


The B1 has long been one of my favorite planes...
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some shots from Osh Kosh air show - what a blast to finally see this thing up close and in person!!!!! I was in awe the whole time.














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I spotted a Navy P-8 in the background of one of the pictures.
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Does the sign in the second picture actually say, "No Gators"? Maybe that's some kind of cart?

I saw the P-8 too - looks like an F-22 on the other side as well.

Beautiful pics srika - love the black and whites. The A-10 too.....
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Old 11-17-2017, 01:10 PM
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Don't know if this qualifies as "awesome military photo" but thought it was

Navy admits its aircraft drew lewd images in sky | Fox News

I'm being overly paranoid, but it's a tad NSW depending on where you are.
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but wait, there's more

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THAT is a great photo!
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This is friggin cool.... grab the screen and look around
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Whoa... that's awesome!
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That's easily one of the coolest videos I've seen in a long time. I don't know how the fly so close when all the planes are bouncing round like that. Amazing.
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Awesome video. They are flying crazy close - not much room for error.
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https://www.paulallen.com/uss-lexing...ted-rv-petrel/

By The Editors - March 5, 2018

Wreckage from the USS Lexington was discovered by the expedition crew of Research Vessel (R/V) Petrel on March 4. The Lexington was found 3,000 meters (about two miles) below the surface, resting on the floor of the Coral Sea more than 500 miles off the eastern coast of Australia.

“To pay tribute to the USS Lexington and the brave men that served on her is an honor,” said Paul Allen. “As Americans, all of us owe a debt of gratitude to everyone who served and who continue to serve our country for their courage, persistence and sacrifice.”




As one of the first U.S. aircraft carriers ever built, the Lexington became known as “Lady Lex” and went down with 35 aircraft on board.

“Lexington was on our priority list because she was one of the capital ships that was lost during WWII,” said Robert Kraft, director of subsea operations for Allen. “Based on geography, time of year and other factors, I work with Paul Allen to determine what missions to pursue. We’ve been planning to locate the Lexington for about six months and it came together nicely.”

The USS Lexington was originally commissioned as a battlecruiser but was launched as an aircraft carrier in 1925. She took part in the Battle of the Coral Sea (May 4-8, 1942) along with the USS Yorktown against three Japanese carriers. This was the first carrier versus carrier battle in history and was the first time Japanese forces suffered a permanent setback in its advances on New Guinea and Australia. However, the U.S. lost the Lexington and 216 of its distinguished crew.




The Lexington had been hit by multiple torpedoes and bombs on May 8 but it was a secondary explosion causing uncontrolled fires that finally warranted the call to abandon ship. The USS Phelps delivered the final torpedoes that sank the crippled Lady Lex, the first aircraft carrier casualty in history. With other U.S. ships standing by, 2,770 crewmen and officers were rescued, including the captain and his dog Wags, the ships ever-present mascot.

During the Battle of the Coral Sea the Japanese navy sank USS Lexington (CV-2), USS Sims (DD-409), and USS Neosho (AO-23), and damaged the USS Yorktown. The Japanese lost one light carrier (Shōhō) and suffered significant damage to a fleet carrier (Shōkaku).




“As the son of a survivor of the USS Lexington, I offer my congratulations to Paul Allen and the expedition crew of Research Vessel (R/V) Petrel for locating the “Lady Lex,” sunk nearly 76 years ago at the Battle of Coral Sea,” said Navy Adm. Harry B. Harris Jr., head of the U.S. Pacific Command. “We honor the valor and sacrifice of the “Lady Lex’s” Sailors — all those Americans who fought in World War II — by continuing to secure the freedoms they won for all of us.”

The Battle of the Coral Sea was notable not only for stopping a Japanese advance but because it was the first naval engagement in history where opposing ships never came within sight of each other. This battle ushered in a new form of naval warfare via carrier-based airplanes. One month later, the U.S. Navy surprised Japanese forces at the Battle of Midway, and turned the tide of the war in the Pacific for good.




Based on some initial success with his M/Y Octopus, Allen acquired and retrofitted the 250-foot R/V Petrel with state-of-the-art subsea equipment capable of diving to 6,000 meters (or three and a half miles). Since its deployment in early 2017, the ship was active in several missions in the Philippine Sea before its transition to the Coral Sea off the Australian Coast.

Allen-led expeditions have also resulted in the discovery of the USS Indianapolis (August 2017), USS Ward (November 2017), USS Astoria (February 2015), Japanese battleship Musashi (March 2015) and the Italian WWII destroyer Artigliere (March 2017). His team was also responsible for presentation to the British Navy in honor of its heroic service. Allen’s expedition team was permanently transferred to the newly acquired and retrofitted R/V Petrel in 2016 with a specific mission around research, exploration and survey of historic warships and other important artifacts.
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Stunning pictures...
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I that Felix the Cat carrying a bomb insignia of the VF3 on that F4F Hellcat. After 76 years in the water it still's on the a/c
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I know it's impossible but how amazing would it be to be able to scuba dive around that wreckage. Great photos. And agree with Felix making it all these years!
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Cool pictures. Wonder why they sunk it.
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Cool pictures. Wonder why they sunk it.
I sure hope that's a joke.
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I sure hope that's a joke.
The USS Phelps delivered the final torpedoes that sank the crippled Lady Lex
guess they couldn't put out the fire
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I that Felix the Cat carrying a bomb insignia of the VF3 on that F4F Hellcat. After 76 years in the water it still's on the a/c
Got my Grumman names messed up, a F4F is a Wildcat (F6F is a Hellcat). Oh and Felix

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guess they couldn't put out the fire
I was curious.

During the Battle of the Coral Sea beginning on 8 May, when Lexington and USS Yorktown diverged to avoid enemy attacks, Phelps stayed with Yorktown. Phelps emerged from the battle with no casualties, but when the Lexington was seriously damaged, she helped to prevent enemy capture of the carrier by administering the coup de gr ce and finished her off with two torpedoes.
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A series of large explosions began around 18:00 that blew the aft elevator apart and threw aircraft into the air. Sherman waited until 18:30 to ensure that all of his crewmen were off the ship before leaving himself. Some 2,770 officers and men were rescued by the rest of the task force. The destroyer Phelps was ordered to sink the ship and fired a total of five torpedoes between 19:15 and 19:52. Immediately after the last torpedo hit, Lexington, down by the bow but nearly on an even keel finally sank[68] at 15°20′S 155°30′ECoordinates: 15°20′S 155°30′E.[2] A Lexington officer famously said "There she goes. She didn't turn over. She's going down with her head up. Dear old Lex...a lady to the last."[69] Some 216 crewmen were killed and 2,735 were evacuated.[70]
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Found another one.


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Sunken USS Juneau Famous for the Sullivan Brothers Discovered on St. Patrick’s Day

March 19, 2018

Wreckage from the USS Juneau (CL-52) was discovered on March 17, 2018, by the expedition crew of Research Vessel (R/V) Petrel. The Juneau was sunk by a Japanese torpedo during the Battle of Guadalcanal, ultimately killing 687 men including all five of the Sullivan brothers. The Atlanta-class light cruiser was found 4,200 meters (about 2.6 miles) below the surface, resting on the floor of the South Pacific off the coast of the Solomon Islands.

The USS Juneau In New York Harbor, 11 February 1942. Courtesy the U.S. National Archives.


The propeller of the USS Juneau resting on the seafloor.

“As the fifth commanding officer of USS The Sullivans (DDG 68), a ship named after five brothers, I am excited to hear that Allen and his team were able to locate the light cruiser USS Juneau (CL 52) that sunk during the Battle of Guadalcanal,” said Vice Adm. Rich Brown, commander, Naval Surface Forces. “The story of the USS Juneau crew and Sullivan brothers epitomize the service and sacrifice of our nation’s greatest generation.”

The USS Juneau had a short service history only being commissioned just under a year prior to it sinking.


During its fateful battle on November 13, 1942, a second torpedo hit on its port side creating a significant explosion that cut the ship in half and killed most of the men onboard, including all five Sullivan brothers. Because the Juneau sank in 30 seconds and due to the risk of further Japanese attacks, the American task force did not stay to check for survivors. Although approximately 115 of Juneau‘s crew reportedly survived the explosion, including possibly as many as two of the five Sullivan brothers, naval forces did not undertake rescue effort for several days and only 10 men were rescued from the water eight days after the sinking.

The Sullivan family of Waterloo, Iowa lost their sons George, Francis “Frank,” Joseph, Madison “Matt” and Albert despite the naval policy that prevented siblings from serving in the same units. The brothers refused to serve unless assigned to the same ship and the policy was ignored. According to naval historians, the brothers’ deaths became a rallying cry for the allied forces.

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I find these stories and videos really fascinating, but I have to wonder if the money being spent on these discoveries is being put to good use.
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I find these stories and videos really fascinating, but I have to wonder if the money being spent on these discoveries is being put to good use.
I'm assuming this is private money? If so, what're you gonna do?
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