Videos of a couple of my cars.
07-13-2013, 09:07 AM
#1
Videos of a couple of my cars.
To keep with the Acura theme, this is a video of me driving my Mom's (yes my Mom's) 2.0T Sonata vs my friends auto TL-S. Both cars are stock.
Got the GTO in 2006, modded it (bolt ons) and then demodded for a big build (TVS blower). This race occurred while it was demodded about 2 years ago. Stock C63 AMG.
Same deal vs my buddy's then bolt on G8GT ~high 12 sec @ ~110ish I think.
My old TVS supercharged Regal vs my buddy's GTX Prand Prix
Same G8 as above vs same GTX as above
My now turbo'd Regal on a 12psi base tune a few months ago vs my buddy's now cammed G8GT (he ran high 11s @ ~119mph)
My turbo Regal vs Boss 302. This Mustang is easily a 10 second car.
And finally a rematch with my buddy's more modded GTX Grand Prix
Enjoy
Got the GTO in 2006, modded it (bolt ons) and then demodded for a big build (TVS blower). This race occurred while it was demodded about 2 years ago. Stock C63 AMG.
Same deal vs my buddy's then bolt on G8GT ~high 12 sec @ ~110ish I think.
My old TVS supercharged Regal vs my buddy's GTX Prand Prix
Same G8 as above vs same GTX as above
My now turbo'd Regal on a 12psi base tune a few months ago vs my buddy's now cammed G8GT (he ran high 11s @ ~119mph)
My turbo Regal vs Boss 302. This Mustang is easily a 10 second car.
And finally a rematch with my buddy's more modded GTX Grand Prix
Enjoy
07-18-2013, 06:46 PM
#2
US Navy Seabees
Damn those Sonatas are quick. If the 5AT didn't suck so bad it would be a different race though.
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07-20-2013, 11:35 AM
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Regal is a total sleeper, nice set of cars.
07-20-2013, 04:25 PM
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Nice videos. I definitely didn't envision the Sonata 2.0T pulling on the TLS AT as hard as it did on the high end. I figured it would pull better on low end with the TLS pulling harder up top.....guess not.
That said, I've driven the TLS 5AT as well as the 2010 TL base and IMHO the latter seemed to pull harder. I'd like to see a 4G TL run the 2.0T.
That said, I've driven the TLS 5AT as well as the 2010 TL base and IMHO the latter seemed to pull harder. I'd like to see a 4G TL run the 2.0T.
07-21-2013, 01:15 AM
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You must know Beans......and your GTO was stock in these vids? Putting buses on a high 12 second G8 and C63?
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07-21-2013, 03:51 AM
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A stock 6.0 GTO is good for ~13.5@105 (would have a difficult time pulling on your Accord). A stock C63 ~12.5@115. A '12 and up C63 (now has the MCT) w/P31 and LSD is a high 11 second car @120+. Not "bench racing". Those trap speeds tell you how strong the car is going to pull, who is pulling, and who is getting a good look at a rear end.
6.0 would have to of had work done just to hang. No amount of magic shifting is making up the difference.
Looks like you've had some fun cars (OP).
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07-21-2013, 09:49 AM
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Not possible.
A stock 6.0 GTO is good for ~13.5@105 (would have a difficult time pulling on your Accord). A stock C63 ~12.5@115. A '12 and up C63 (now has the MCT) w/P31 and LSD is a high 11 second car @120+. Not "bench racing". Those trap speeds tell you how strong the car is going to pull, who is pulling, and who is getting a good look at a rear end.
6.0 would have to of had work done just to hang. No amount of magic shifting is making up the difference.
Looks like you've had some fun cars (OP).
A stock 6.0 GTO is good for ~13.5@105 (would have a difficult time pulling on your Accord). A stock C63 ~12.5@115. A '12 and up C63 (now has the MCT) w/P31 and LSD is a high 11 second car @120+. Not "bench racing". Those trap speeds tell you how strong the car is going to pull, who is pulling, and who is getting a good look at a rear end.
6.0 would have to of had work done just to hang. No amount of magic shifting is making up the difference.
Looks like you've had some fun cars (OP).
My stock GTO ran 12.54 @ 111.74 at LVD in August of 2007.
Said c63 amg ran 13.0 @ 109 at the same track in May a couple years ago.
No need to bench race anything, the GTO was faster at the track and on the street.
Thanks for watching
07-21-2013, 10:35 AM
#11
Here was the second race with the C63
Along with some pre-race pictures.
Stock exhaust clearly visible, AMG wheels in the background.
I even took pictures of the never turned valve cover bolts and intake manifold bolts.
Wont bother you with those though.
Along with some pre-race pictures.
Stock exhaust clearly visible, AMG wheels in the background.
I even took pictures of the never turned valve cover bolts and intake manifold bolts.
Wont bother you with those though.
07-21-2013, 10:59 AM
#12
And 1 more... the 12.54 @ 111.74
Done with a catback and a nitto DR.
Skip to 2 minutes and 53 seconds for the pass.
The catback showed a zero hp gain on the dyno and is widely regarded as a useless mod on an otherwise bone stock car unless you're going for sound. I didn't know that when I bought it, I quickly put the stock catback back on and sold the exhaust... it was too loud.
There's actually a funny story behind these times. I ran them in August of 2007 and entered them into the 'super stock' section of the GTO forum times thread. 2 years later some kid posted up how he ran a 12.6 @ 110 in his stock GTO and made a big thread about it. He put "Fastest stock GTO ever" in his sig next to the 12.6 @ 110 notation. Then under that it said 'nitto drag radials'.
I chimed in, I said that DR's means the car isn't stock. I almost got flamed off the board for saying that. Apparently on the GTO board, DR's on a stock car means you can still claim it's stock and list your times under the 'stock' class. So I said fine, then I ran a 12.54 2 years ago and now I own the fastest stock gto ever. Lol... the guy was so upset. He still hates me to this day.
I know, cool story bro.
Done with a catback and a nitto DR.
Skip to 2 minutes and 53 seconds for the pass.
The catback showed a zero hp gain on the dyno and is widely regarded as a useless mod on an otherwise bone stock car unless you're going for sound. I didn't know that when I bought it, I quickly put the stock catback back on and sold the exhaust... it was too loud.
There's actually a funny story behind these times. I ran them in August of 2007 and entered them into the 'super stock' section of the GTO forum times thread. 2 years later some kid posted up how he ran a 12.6 @ 110 in his stock GTO and made a big thread about it. He put "Fastest stock GTO ever" in his sig next to the 12.6 @ 110 notation. Then under that it said 'nitto drag radials'.
I chimed in, I said that DR's means the car isn't stock. I almost got flamed off the board for saying that. Apparently on the GTO board, DR's on a stock car means you can still claim it's stock and list your times under the 'stock' class. So I said fine, then I ran a 12.54 2 years ago and now I own the fastest stock gto ever. Lol... the guy was so upset. He still hates me to this day.
I know, cool story bro.
07-21-2013, 02:22 PM
#13
i saw both races on you tube. The sonata started pulling when the TL-S hit 3rd not 4th. Gearing is much shorter in the Sonata as you know. Now the 2012+TL with the 6AT would be a different. The sonata is just faster in the high end against a 5AT TL-S. I would like to see it from a stop!
07-21-2013, 03:33 PM
#14
i saw both races on you tube. The sonata started pulling when the TL-S hit 3rd not 4th. Gearing is much shorter in the Sonata as you know. Now the 2012+TL with the 6AT would be a different. The sonata is just faster in the high end against a 5AT TL-S. I would like to see it from a stop!
Incidentally, my 6spd TL ran a 14.4 @ 97.25 at the same track in very similar conditions.
The TL-S in that video is the same one that was at the track with me. He ran 14.8 @ 95.
It got ugly for him above 110 (he holds 3rd until then).
The race woulda been even worse for him had he not kept stealing the hit lol
From a dig with even reaction times, the Sonata would have ~4 cars on him by the end of the 1/4, and above 110 it would be stacking up car-lengths by the second.
07-21-2013, 05:38 PM
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The Sonata ran a 14.4 @ 98mph in really bad conditions here at LVD.
Incidentally, my 6spd TL ran a 14.4 @ 97.25 at the same track in very similar conditions.
The TL-S in that video is the same one that was at the track with me. He ran 14.8 @ 95.
It got ugly for him above 110 (he holds 3rd until then).
The race woulda been even worse for him had he not kept stealing the hit lol
From a dig with even reaction times, the Sonata would have ~4 cars on him by the end of the 1/4, and above 110 it would be stacking up car-lengths by the second.
Incidentally, my 6spd TL ran a 14.4 @ 97.25 at the same track in very similar conditions.
The TL-S in that video is the same one that was at the track with me. He ran 14.8 @ 95.
It got ugly for him above 110 (he holds 3rd until then).
The race woulda been even worse for him had he not kept stealing the hit lol
From a dig with even reaction times, the Sonata would have ~4 cars on him by the end of the 1/4, and above 110 it would be stacking up car-lengths by the second.
In better conditions the TL 6MT should have the advantage over the Sonata as its N/A vs Turbo. Turbo cars are much less affected by DA. But still the sonata is one quick ride!
07-21-2013, 08:32 PM
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07-22-2013, 10:11 AM
#17
Now we know your buddy can't drive the car. Aside from a combination of wrong gear, bald tires, running in "Comfort Mode" (that's what it's called, very tame compared to "S+" or "M"), and your buddy being mentally impaired, these runs just don't happen "stock for stock". I don't think you were running DRs on the street either.
I hope you go back to that site to gloat every once in a while. Ask him "how those Cheerio's tastin'".
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07-22-2013, 12:02 PM
#18
Your buddy's slow time slip doesn't make your car faster, it means he can't drive it. A stock C63 in any form (PP or not, LSD or not, MCT or not) is significantly faster than a stock 6.0 GTO. Not aiming to pee in your Cheerio's, it is what it is.
Now we know your buddy can't drive the car. Aside from a combination of wrong gear, bald tires, running in "Comfort Mode" (that's what it's called, very tame compared to "S+" or "M"), and your buddy being mentally impaired, these runs just don't happen "stock for stock". I don't think you were running DRs on the street either.
I hope you go back to that site to gloat every once in a while. Ask him "how those Cheerio's tastin'".
Now we know your buddy can't drive the car. Aside from a combination of wrong gear, bald tires, running in "Comfort Mode" (that's what it's called, very tame compared to "S+" or "M"), and your buddy being mentally impaired, these runs just don't happen "stock for stock". I don't think you were running DRs on the street either.
I hope you go back to that site to gloat every once in a while. Ask him "how those Cheerio's tastin'".
Why are you so butthurt?
07-22-2013, 12:36 PM
#19
Your buddy's slow time slip doesn't make your car faster, it means he can't drive it. A stock C63 in any form (PP or not, LSD or not, MCT or not) is significantly faster than a stock 6.0 GTO. Not aiming to pee in your Cheerio's, it is what it is.
Now we know your buddy can't drive the car. Aside from a combination of wrong gear, bald tires, running in "Comfort Mode" (that's what it's called, very tame compared to "S+" or "M"), and your buddy being mentally impaired, these runs just don't happen "stock for stock". I don't think you were running DRs on the street either.
I hope you go back to that site to gloat every once in a while. Ask him "how those Cheerio's tastin'".
Now we know your buddy can't drive the car. Aside from a combination of wrong gear, bald tires, running in "Comfort Mode" (that's what it's called, very tame compared to "S+" or "M"), and your buddy being mentally impaired, these runs just don't happen "stock for stock". I don't think you were running DRs on the street either.
I hope you go back to that site to gloat every once in a while. Ask him "how those Cheerio's tastin'".
Just because you're ignorant doesn't mean I gotta have pee in my cherios lol. It is what it is, GTO was faster on the street and the track, many many times.
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07-22-2013, 05:04 PM
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Maybe your GTO is fast but it's really hard to believe a stock 6.0 GTO will beat a C63. It just sounds crazy even thinking about it.
The power to weight ratio is about 9.3 for the GTO and 8.0 for the C63.
Idk man, seems odd.
The power to weight ratio is about 9.3 for the GTO and 8.0 for the C63.
Idk man, seems odd.
07-22-2013, 05:18 PM
#21
And besides, if you do the actual weight/power ratio, the GTO is 3950/400 (my weight and passenger plus the car) = 9.8875
While the C63 is 4475/451 (passengers plus car) = 9.922
Not even close to what you had benched out.
This isn't even considering that on the dyno, my GTO made 345whp SAE, and on the SAME dyno, the C63 made 358whp SAE. A difference of 13... not 51.
The GTO has a better weight/power ratio (especially considering passengers), ran faster at the track, and won on the street, many times.
It is what it is.
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07-22-2013, 05:54 PM
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See, bench racing gets you into trouble... The real world results are right there on video, twice.
And besides, if you do the actual weight/power ratio, the GTO is 3950/400 (my weight and passenger plus the car) = 9.8875
While the C63 is 4475/451 (passengers plus car) = 9.922
Not even close to what you had benched out.
This isn't even considering that on the dyno, my GTO made 345whp SAE, and on the SAME dyno, the C63 made 358whp SAE. A difference of 13... not 51.
The GTO has a better weight/power ratio (especially considering passengers), ran faster at the track, and won on the street, many times.
It is what it is.
And besides, if you do the actual weight/power ratio, the GTO is 3950/400 (my weight and passenger plus the car) = 9.8875
While the C63 is 4475/451 (passengers plus car) = 9.922
Not even close to what you had benched out.
This isn't even considering that on the dyno, my GTO made 345whp SAE, and on the SAME dyno, the C63 made 358whp SAE. A difference of 13... not 51.
The GTO has a better weight/power ratio (especially considering passengers), ran faster at the track, and won on the street, many times.
It is what it is.
Good day sir
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07-22-2013, 08:35 PM
#23
Shxt, this story gets better every time. First he's stock, then it's a cat back and drag radials, now the C63 had 600lbs in passengers.
How is your car only 3,950 with two people in it. 6.0 GTO (stock) is 3,750. You and your passenger are 200lbs combined?
Stock for stock, a car that traps roughly 10mph faster in the quarter (we are all aware of what these two cars are capable of, your modded hero run and his crap run doesn't change the cars capabilities) burning the other car in a roll unless...
the car isn't driven properly.
the car isn't running properly.
the other car is modded.
or D., all of the above.
I wish you were on the Best coast so I could crush your stock factory freak voodoo juice prototype GTO.
Tell you what, if you come out here and win in said GTO I'll pay for your road trip and give you $500.
Gotta keep it real on the interwebs. Otherwise the universe gets turned upside down, smurfs are raping gummy bears, all the beer cans have holes in 'em and none of the women do. Hell on Earth.
How is your car only 3,950 with two people in it. 6.0 GTO (stock) is 3,750. You and your passenger are 200lbs combined?
Stock for stock, a car that traps roughly 10mph faster in the quarter (we are all aware of what these two cars are capable of, your modded hero run and his crap run doesn't change the cars capabilities) burning the other car in a roll unless...
the car isn't driven properly.
the car isn't running properly.
the other car is modded.
or D., all of the above.
I wish you were on the Best coast so I could crush your stock factory freak voodoo juice prototype GTO.
Tell you what, if you come out here and win in said GTO I'll pay for your road trip and give you $500.
Gotta keep it real on the interwebs. Otherwise the universe gets turned upside down, smurfs are raping gummy bears, all the beer cans have holes in 'em and none of the women do. Hell on Earth.
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07-22-2013, 08:41 PM
#24
Shxt, this story gets better every time. First he's stock, then it's a cat back and drag radials, now the C63 had 600lbs in passengers.
How is your car only 3,950 with two people in it. 6.0 GTO (stock) is 3,750. You and your passenger are 200lbs combined?
Stock for stock, a car that traps roughly 10mph faster in the quarter (we are all aware of what these two cars are capable of, your modded hero run and his crap run doesn't change the cars capabilities) burning the other car in a roll unless...
the car isn't driven properly.
the car isn't running properly.
the other car is modded.
or D., all of the above.
I wish you were on the Best coast so I could crush your stock factory freak voodoo juice prototype GTO.
Tell you what, if you come out here and win in said GTO I'll pay for your road trip and give you $500.
Gotta keep it real on the interwebs. Otherwise the universe gets turned upside down, smurfs are raping gummy bears, all the beer cans have holes in 'em and none of the women do. Hell on Earth.
How is your car only 3,950 with two people in it. 6.0 GTO (stock) is 3,750. You and your passenger are 200lbs combined?
Stock for stock, a car that traps roughly 10mph faster in the quarter (we are all aware of what these two cars are capable of, your modded hero run and his crap run doesn't change the cars capabilities) burning the other car in a roll unless...
the car isn't driven properly.
the car isn't running properly.
the other car is modded.
or D., all of the above.
I wish you were on the Best coast so I could crush your stock factory freak voodoo juice prototype GTO.
Tell you what, if you come out here and win in said GTO I'll pay for your road trip and give you $500.
Gotta keep it real on the interwebs. Otherwise the universe gets turned upside down, smurfs are raping gummy bears, all the beer cans have holes in 'em and none of the women do. Hell on Earth.
Too bad you weren't closer... I'd love to mop your car up.
07-22-2013, 08:41 PM
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07-23-2013, 02:38 AM
#26
A full bolt on, ported tb, tuned 6.0 GTO on DRs will trap 111-113mph. Still not enough to pull on a competently driven C63 from a roll. A stock 6.0 has 0 chance of doing that (unless the C driver is in a coma).
I'd shxt all over your TVS GTO. You can use that "mop" to clean it up.
Now that we're done here, how about a beer.
(^not being sarcastic)
07-23-2013, 12:38 PM
#28
From LS1;
Okay so if people don't already know... my GTO has been demodded and is currently STOCK. I sold the headers and put the tune back to stock. Most of the weight is back in and currently there is less than 50lbs out of it... whatever the **** in the trunk is. Details aside I ran a C63 AMG and here's some pictures and video of my experience.
So, we went from stock vs stock, to you having cb and drag radials, now there is weight out of your car and 600+ in the other...
Also, your "stock" times and runs are so fking far off from reality everyone accused you of having a hidden bottle.
You ain't fooling anyone.
Internet superstar? That's "Supa Playa Pimp Master All-Star" to you. You must refer to me as that from now on, ok "P1nkBerry" (that's your new name).
I thought Mazdaspeed was the resident troll, but you just took his sceptre (toilet plunger) and crown ("Smart Water" bottle with a chin strap).
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07-23-2013, 01:03 PM
#31
it might be bullshit, but at least it is entertaining.
we all know that he likes sleepers.
Thats his MO.
we shouldnt treat it as "stock"
because on the streets, most people dont disclose their mods anyway.
"what you running?"
"run me and find out!"
we all know that he likes sleepers.
Thats his MO.
we shouldnt treat it as "stock"
because on the streets, most people dont disclose their mods anyway.
"what you running?"
"run me and find out!"
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07-23-2013, 03:08 PM
#32
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why cant ppl just be honest and real about whats in their cars and whats not. everyone always trying to trick other people. I notice this at my local race meets too everyone always says "Im stock" and then turns around and smirks to their friends.
My signature has a list of all my mods, I dont hide my mods.
My signature has a list of all my mods, I dont hide my mods.
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07-23-2013, 08:08 PM
#35
Vasher you're confusing the hell out of yourself.
On the scales a c63 amg is 4000lbs.
My GTO was 3650. Sorry for losing my spare tire and jack... it had been outta the car for 5 years.
On the scales a c63 amg is 4000lbs.
My GTO was 3650. Sorry for losing my spare tire and jack... it had been outta the car for 5 years.
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07-23-2013, 09:41 PM
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yeah when you're on the street and run into a random person its fine you dont have to say anything, but when its 2 ppl setting up a race, why is there anything to hide? everyone is afraid to pop their hoods or something. if you're slow then you're slow, if you're fast then you're fast. whats there to hide?
07-23-2013, 09:45 PM
#38
yeah when you're on the street and run into a random person its fine you dont have to say anything, but when its 2 ppl setting up a race, why is there anything to hide? everyone is afraid to pop their hoods or something. if you're slow then you're slow, if you're fast then you're fast. whats there to hide?
07-23-2013, 09:52 PM
#39
That c63 race started quite the firestorm, so I responded with this...
Also, a friend of mine has a video of a dyno day where his GTO made 355 with just an intake, and 371 after a base tune. Same day, same dyno, a c63 made 370. The GTO is like ~350lbs lighter... That race woulda been very one-sided.
Also, a friend of mine has a video of a dyno day where his GTO made 355 with just an intake, and 371 after a base tune. Same day, same dyno, a c63 made 370. The GTO is like ~350lbs lighter... That race woulda been very one-sided.