paperboy42190

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really? didnt know that. is there an article somewhere i can read about it? im a bit unfamiliar with the 4G's

SatinSilverAV6

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Sure man. Here is the Car and Driver article on the 2012 TL-SH AWD.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test

I don't really take the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times as completely accurate since the car mags use computer tech for measuring instead of a real 1/4 mile track but its comparing the new 6AT TL SH to the old 5AT using the same equipment. What they don't show in this article is that the new 6AT is about 1 full second quicker to 100MPH which is HUGE!
I bet from real people who take this car to the track we could see low 14's stock with the 6AT since people can get mid-high 14's with the 5AT

Quoted from that article " the new auto did the dash in 6.2 seconds and needed 14.7 seconds to clear the quarter-mile at 98 mph. Compared with the five-speed auto, those are improvements of 0.3 second to 60 mph and 0.4 second and 3 mph in the quarter. During our time with the car, we split the EPA ratings almost perfectly, averaging 21 mpg."

paperboy42190

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had some fun with the si again today. he has stock exhaust at the moment. he had 1 light passenger and i had almost empty tank of gas. highway pull from about 70, and we honked to make it even. even though 70 is a bad start for the 5AT tl, i actually still beat him. he hung for like 2-3 seconds then i walk away faster and faster. we did 2 runs total, still beat him 2nd time. after the race we talked and he said he was in 4th for the 1st run but went to 3rd for the 2nd run, but 3rd was really high like 7k rpm, but he admits defeat.

paperboy42190

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btw thx for the link, it was a good read!

Booya4139

I went from an 08 si coupe, IHE tuned on flashpro. HFP sport susp. Progress RSB. To a 4g TL. The SI is a ton of fun to drive. Great little car. Not a drag racer. Fully tuned up felt well powered and handles like a sonamabiatch. Ride is stiff though. Base TL tech feels like a cadillac in comparison lol. Both great cars. Never drove a TL-S but always liked them. Couldn't even find a decent used one to test drive

ParaSurfer1979

You make a very valid point. HMC is on the most popular Acura/Honda forums reading on what people are doing. I took AHMC to the BBB back in 02 in Orlando when Hollar Honda in Winter Park wouldnt cover my rear diff. At the proceedings honda had all my posts i ever posted on www.s2ki.com. All my street racing and videos on .com. I was toast until the Honda rep made a big mistake. My friend was there with his 02 s2k as a witness. When we went to look at my disabled care on the flatbed, my friend happened to tell the rep he was having the same "howling" noise that my car excepted. He told him he'd repair the car for free. When we got back to the meetin with the bbb rep (a retired Orange Co Judge), my freing spoke up and told him what the rep said to him. The judge made them fix my car.

Just be careful what you post on here because honda indeed has members here and every other popular forum like clubsi, 8thcivic, and to name a few.

jrleclerc88

Not to get off topic... But lol @ randomly throwing out your user name on TL vs SI posts. This is the 2-3 one ive seen. Just makes me laugh, lol

Sonnick

Lolwut

paperboy42190

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Lol nice thread revival. Btw my friend's SI now has a k24 block so it's much faster now

rickgiblin

so hows the tl-s doing against the si's? only reason asking is that i bought a 07 tl-s so the next week my coworker went out and leased a new 2013 si... just wondering if i should go for it or would i be listening to his mouth running for years

Sonnick

^ Must not have read the thread.

paperboy42190

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^+1

Yonkersracing

Nah, if he didn't have anyone you would've gotten pulled. Nice kill on the handicapped Si doe.

anx1300c

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I know this is an old post, but don't forget the base 6MT has a 192 lb weight advantage over the S 5AT (3482 to 3674). That right there negates almost 20 of those 28 horses.

mazdaspeed3God

I told you, hot newb kid. TL 5AT is slow because of tall gearinggggg..... The top gear (5th) takes you to almost 230 mph at what... only 6600 rpm? You need to add good 300 lb-ft of torque and horsepower to make some descent use of that gearing. With only 258 hp and 233 tq isn't suitable for this and can even put strain on the engine for normal city driving especially in some hills. You PM'ed me, telling me I'm an idiot, well it looks like, look who's talking.

I did "research" before shopping for cars. Knowledge is very important. Bone stock manual TL (258hp) can also beat lightly modded Automatic TL-S in the highway pull.


The manual TL weighs 3477, without the navigation option. You don't even know your own products! ha ha Man, when it comes to cars I know hon.


When are you going to change car? Why don't you get an S2000... I like that car. You can attract more girls too with it.

anx1300c

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Your sister would not be happy with me if I got a car with no back seat.

mazdaspeed3God

For me when it comes to cars the fashion is the first! Not practicality. Man I tell ya when I was driving the TL I had a bunch of guys come after me cause my car looked so sharp and handsome.. it's guy's car. Can't attract girls with it.

I did succeed attracting some girl when I had a Mazdaspeed 3. Girls like cute cars.

Now the Lexus IS350 F-Sport.... most beautifully styled. It's chic! Love the fact the rear seats are so tight. That is why I bought it. Tight n cozy.. ehehehehe

Sonnick

^ Sounds like a high school girl?

mazdaspeed3God

Some men have taste. Women like jewelry and some Gucci bags, men like their things with cars. It's fashion you young man... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The ass view of your car in avatar actually looks good. You must like your car a lot.... Is that a 7th gen Accord?

paperboy42190

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hey mazdaspeed3god i hear you are a 100lb asian

KidoPham

Just ran across this post so pardon the thread revival. I raced a friends 03 rsx type s with k24 block, we re pretty even. Raced a 2010 civic si sedan with bolt ons and tuned, pretty even. Also raced a 2013 si coupe and beat him about 3 car lengths. I also had a chance to race a boosted rsx type s and he left me like I was standing still. I raced my buddies 04 6mt Tl and we were even and with a 6mt TL S and he pulled off on me at 105-110mph. And btw mazdaspeed3god, I agree, the Tl gets a lot of attention from guys and the IS is sexy but it's a girly car and the back seats are useless. It does attract alot of females though. At one point of time that was my dream car but after having it for a year, I decided to trade it in and that was the best decision. IMO the IS is a mostly female driven car and to me it looks like a girly car. Just my 2cents

bouncer07

If he tracks his car, whats his time and trap? I own an 8th as well and know how well they run.

Let me also tell you that my 06 SI stage 2 cammed on full bolt-ons, tuned byt Vit made 230whp and I could use my launch control on the street. Lots of clutching in first though, it's all perfection, can be done without smashing on the pedal.

Lots of just bolt-ons are just hitting 210whp mark.

paperboy42190

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this is his car at its current state, he races on tracks, not drag strips.

have doubts about his driving skills?
https://www.facebook.com/JasonLeeRacing