BEAR-AvHistory

Long Island to E-town is a pretty good ride... I used to live just a little way down RT-9 from the track in Freehold Township.

Sonnick

I'm definitely down to meet up at Etown next year. I'm almost positive I'm going to Island drag this Sunday. I have an appointment this Saturday to get my mount & damper installed so I should be ready.

Btw that sounds like a good mod list coming up

illi adik

Do you guys know if the 2010 TL SH-AWD 6spd's have the rev limiter set at 4k with the clutch depressed? I know in my 2012 it made it such a pain in the ass to get out of the hole with any speed. 2.1 60', but that was with no wheel spin whatsoever.

Sonnick

Not sure. What was your ET/trap?

phee

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All manual Acuras have had a limiter while standing still on the clutch since 99

illi adik

Best run below

R/T: .080
60': 2.162
330: 6.122
1/8: 9.388
MPH: 75.07
1000: 12.177
1/4: 14.425
MPH: 96.27

This is borderline powershifting too. I really thought the car had more in it. Just over 8000 miles on the odometer. Track elevation 550ft.

SatinSilverAV6

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What do you drive?

illi adik

2012 6spd SH-AWD TL

BEAR-AvHistory

Not trying to be a smart guy but why did you think it would be quicker/faster? If you post your slip to Drag Times you will have the second quickest & 3rd fastest of the SH-AWD Acura's listed

SatinSilverAV6

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I would have thought it would have been faster too. The mag times have it listed in the high 13's with 100mph trap speeds. I take it you run premium fuel? What was the temperature?

illi adik

Because of what SatinSilver said and cars that I've pulled on and stuck with on the street. Several magazines have it listed within the 13.8-14.0 range at or above 100mph trap speeds.

I do run Premium (this was a 1/4 tank of Sheetz gas) and the temperature was around 55 degrees with a slight headwind.

anx1300c

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Probably because the magazines are getting high 13's @ 100+ from them. But as I've said again and again, most people are setting themselves up for disappointment if they think they're going to mimic magazine times their first time out.

I'm still a little surprised at the low trap speed though, especially in 55 deg weather.

BEAR-AvHistory

Car & Driver did a piece a few years ago on what they do to get the best time possible. No way you would beat on a car you own that way & they are also pro or semi-pro drivers. One of their older testers named Bedard (SP?) had a number of starts in the Indy 500.

I bet 90% of the people on car forums think they are really great drivers but a couple of laps in the right seat with a pro driver at the wheel would quickly erase that misconception. Competition driving school can be a real eye opener.

Trap speed was not there because he was not making the required power.....maybe 91 octane gas? His 1/8 mile speed is slow because he falls right in the 20/21mph second half that most TL’s run

illi adik

I agree - I'm not a pro driver, but this was certainly not my first rodeo at the track. I have probably close to 200 passes at the track. Previous cars over the years include a Supercharged Integra GSR, Turbo Integra GSR, Big turbo race gas DSM, Turbo S2000, and my current project car is a big turbo 80's Shelby Dodge.

I could maybe chalk it up to crappy Sheetz gas, but I doubt I'll take it out again. Was kind of a spur of the moment trip to see what it would do.

BEAR-AvHistory

I hear what you are saying...thing is on this site there are any number of guys with stock cars, both 3G & 4G, posted that they were disappointed with their runs based on published numbers. I joined in 06 & there were similar posts back then.

I don't know if the magazines have ringers or just wind it up, dump the clutch & ride out the wheel hop, but it looks to me the only guys who can get close to published times are running modified cars.

illi adik

Who knows...she's not for drag racing, though. I bet that Juice Box tuned 335 moves pretty good. 335's were definitely on my radar when I bought the TL.

anx1300c

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A lot of it depends on the track and the DA conditions, too. There have been some good numbers here and there. A base 6MT 3G, intake only, at 13.90 @ 99+, another base 6MT with just intake/catback/DR's at 14.08 @ 100+, a bone stock Type-S 6MT at 14.07 @ 99+.

But for the most part, yeah, these numbers aren't the norm, and even a good driver at a shitty track in shitty weather would have a tough time coming within a half second of these times.

Also, all the magazines correct their numbers, most use roll out when publishing 0-60 times, (which is bogus) and most publish the trap speed at 1320' instead of averaging the final 66'. All this adds up to a lot of disappointment for some guys. Not to mention, tons of guys don't know how to stage as shallow as possible, adding even more time to the slip.

Sonnick

^^ Don't forget my 14.04 @99.71 with intake/Jpipe

Type-S 09 (13.9 @99.9) had a UR pulley as well. Just saying.

Reese has the N/A time/trap to beat thus far. 13.61 @104 with just bolt ons/porting/untuned.

And yes, ANX brings up a good point. Not all tracks are equal, and not all days of the year are equal either. I'm sure you know that though based on your track experience.

SatinSilverAV6

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Don't forget that stock 2012 Accord V6 6MT that ran a 13.7 @ 102

BEAR-AvHistory

Agree, but most of the disappointed guys are stock. If you do a standard bell shaped curve most of the stock TL will fall with pretty close to the same mph/et regardless of where they ran & 14.x is the common number. The moded ones move the curve up a bit but are again pretty close to each other at about 100mph+.

Same with the BMW’s, stock are on one curve, tuned is another, tuned with FOB/meth another & finally in the just about 10 second 500+whp range all of the above + N2O.

Back to real cars, had a chance to run a M3 V8 to day & it was 4 zip for the 335is. The 4 was really two .5’s & 3 side by sides. The .5’s were line astern runs, one on the off ramp from 15-501 to US40E in Durham. Was coming home after getting some parts from Performance BMW is Chapel Hill when a late model M3 Convert blew by me & jumped in front about two blocks before the off-ramp. He kept slowing down to open a space & punched it as soon as he was into the ramp. He opened a small gap with I quickly closed before the merge. I rated that as a point 5.

We got some space on 40 & did a few side by sides, I did not pay attention to the speed as I was more interested in my tach & gear selection. He initiated the runs, I drove past him & pulled away at a steady pace.

The second .5 was went we were trying to get another open stretch. He was behind me this time. I signaled I was going to go & just drove away from him. Last one was another side by side where I just pulled away again.

The whole thing just confirmed my belief that the high revving 414hp M3 is at a major disadvantage when running against a lot of torque especially when the other guy has about 20 more HP hidden away then the M3 has. I expect he is trying to figure out what happened since he obliviously thought he has a sitter with the old guy in a regular car.

Hope I never see him on a track day because I am sure he would be more then happy to return the favor.

Ruby

I blew my previous best time out of the water...I went last night to New England Dragway Street night. Weather was perfect, 53 degrees...spare tire and all junk removed from the car...paddle shift mode, VSA off, NO brake torquing. First race of the night I managed to run a 14.28 at 98.4 mph! Throughout the night, I never ran slower than a 14.6. I must have did about 20 runs at least. Totally surprised the hell out of me. My automatic Type-S has over 120,000 miles on it and it runs like a dream! Even chirps into 2nd sometimes. Managed to take out a brand new (stock) WRX, a modded wagon WRX, brand new CTS, a 300C Hemi, neck and neck with late 80's cobra, neck and neck with an old Chevelle, beaten by a 12 second Evo, beaten by a Camry SE V6, destroyed a few Civics, beat a newer Golf R32, and lost to a modded newer WRX.

Sonnick

Nice! That's a really good time and trap for being bone stock. Good job man.

kdawg8526

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wow thats fast for a stock auto nice job

anx1300c

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Nice runs. 50-55 degrees is ideal for these cars; it does hamper traction a bit, but with an automatic it's not too bad.


What was done to the Camry, was it stock?

LionRock85

Yeah that is pretty bad for the tl-s maybe they were nervous that day, slowest it should be is high 14s not 16s

BostonSilverTypeS

damn amazing times Ruby!! didn't know it was open already I might have to make a trip up there soon before the weather gets real hott!!! Man with those times from being stock I better pull high 13.9's or at least 14 flat with my mods.....

BostonSilverTypeS

So went up to Epping(NE Dragway) and Ruby was up there as well, finally nice meeting you man!!

The end results I was a bit disappointed that I could not dip in the 13's but weather and shitty track does that sometimes!!! I was extremely happy with the Trap speed though it does show with the correct launch I can def hit high 13's no problem!!!

will post my best time slips later but here is a quick run down of my best time 1/4 and trap speeds:


1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
r/t: .363 .690 .188 .452 .312 .478
60' 2.3 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.8
1/8: 9.3 9.3 9.4 9.5 9.6 10.0
mph: 79.22 79.83 79.29 79.73 78.06 78.94
1/4: 14.19 14.25 14.34 14.38 14.61 14.92
mph: 101.86 101.22 102.11 101.48 100.75 101.94

So Best Trap speed of night was 102.11mph which I was thrilled about

Best 1/4 was 14.191...which If I could get my 60' down to 2.1-2.2 I can swing in the 13's

All in all it was good to know how the vehicle would fair with the Tune


oh and weather was 48 degrees and track was very slippery!!

Franchise1124

I was surprised you went up there last night considering the wet weather. Solid runs though, especially with that 102 trap! Getting that 60' down should definitely put you in the 13's.

Sonnick

Nice trap! That shows that you are definitely putting down some great power! Where is NE dragway? I just did your average trap speed and it came out to 101.56! Great job man. No doubts you will dip into the 13s on a dry track.

BostonSilverTypeS

yea I wanted to head down while weather was still cool...but yeah turned out too cold and track was really moist....Also I grabbed alot of sticky shit on tires and rocks piled up on them so I had like 7 runs before I could get that 14.1 pull.....all others before were horrible at like 16's cuz I was getting no traction whatsoever off the line

Yea I am def glad with the trap speeds...on a better day and dry track it could def look promising so I ain't to disappointed, more disappointed that the track was in those conditions more then anything.......Next up Lebanon Valley hopefully if time permits

But yeah I think Ruby got a video of me and him running on my first run of the night I ran up against him hopefully he posts that up

BostonSilverTypeS

So here are the timeslips from Wednesday!

The slip that shows car# 082 and 089 is Ruby in his Stock TL-S(082) vs. Me(089).....that should show an idea of how good the tune is he has better 60' than me and ends up .3 behind and I am 5mph higher trap speed





And this was the 102mph trap slip!!!

anx1300c

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Nice runs, Boston. The cold weather is a Catch 22 though; good for trap speeds, bad for traction/ET. You'll hit 13's once you get some traction. What tires are you running?

Ruby

Definitely nice runs Boston especially since you couldn't get any grip. Once you do, I can see you doing 13's no problem!

Sonnick

Went to the track tonight, Island drag. Couldn't launch for sh1t! Best 60' was a 2.32 ugh. 2 best runs we're 14.007 and 14.187. I'll post the slips tomorrow. I was somewhat satisfied with my traps though. My first run after a 2.5hr drive was 100.6, and every run after >101.4. Best trap was 102.09, so not a total waste. Btw this was a baseline

anx1300c

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Nice, Sonnick. You've got easy 13.7x potential there with a low two teen sixty foot.

Sonnick

Here are 2 of the timeslips. I think I made a total of 6 passes. Best 4 were 14.007, 14.156, 14.161, 14.187. The first and last passes I missed 2nd. Can't powershift into 2nd anymore ugh. They were 14.702 and 14.577. I believe the other 4 trap speeds were 100.6, 101.54, 101.42, and 101.6x. I will say, in analyzing these 2 slips, I had better shift points on the 14.187 run. I gained 22mph in that run from the 1/8th to 1/4 and only 21.3 on the 14.007 run.

Btw, for those going to the track, make sure you take the car ALL the way to redline, just before the limiter. My trap speed varied up to ~1.5mph Friday night. I feel that most of this was due to shift points since the weather minimally changed.



And here is one of the in-car runs I took with my iPhone. Sorry for the quality, I couldn't send it in the best quality for whatever reason.

BostonSilverTypeS

ah good traps Sonnick...man I feel me and you would make for some really good runs!!(under 110ish of course cuz 4th gear I go and there I lose lol) I am actually going to be down your way next weekend...Already spoke with Yonkers and he down...PM me or something for more info.......

Ruby

Nice runs Sonnick, but what are you doing sleeping at the line?? Slow reaction times lol.

06NH6MTTL

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Alright, had a great time hanging out with 3gstealth. Ended up running my best time so far!

R/T .265
60' 2.290
330 6.269
1/8 9.494
MPH 76.82
1/4 14.544
MPH 97.59

It also was another 82-84 degree night and i only got 2 runs immediately after driving an hour so i think that CAI did a hell of a difference!!! Next time i go it will be when a cool front comes in

BostonSilverTypeS

^ very solid times, big difference from last runs