D's Up

To make a long story short, me and my brother left the gym at the same time as these two other guys. My TL and his 300 were parking basically next to each other. We both left the parking lot, made a u-turn and got onto the freeway. This is where it gets sticky.

Getting onto the freeway I stayed in 2nd gear in SS, but once we got onto the actual freeway I put it in D and coasted. I slowly caught up to him and downshifted to third at about ~70mph. I started to pull forward a little to see if he'd bite and he did. The problem was that I let off the throttle literally a second before he gunned it.

~70-100: I was in 3rd gear (at about ~4500rpm?) and hit it as soon as I saw his car start to pull forward at my side, but it was too late. He pulled away from me with ease and was almost 2 cars ahead of me before I shut down.

I'm honestly butt-hurt because I thought to myself "if I can beat an Evo, I can beat this thing". WRONG. I neglected to remind myself that I beat the Evo driver and not the actual car.

Oh well, I guess you win some and you lose some..

*edit: Maybe it's just the placebo affect, but I feel like my car definitely was not running as strong as it could've been. I blame it on the fact that I put in 3 gallons of 87oct from AMPM last night. I know it shouldn't make that much of a difference, but I always pump 91oct from Chevron/Shell/76. Even my little brother commented saying that the TL sounded weird and felt a little slower compared to usual.

SatinSilverAV6

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Oh man never put 87 octane in your TL

Your ECU will retard the timing to protect your engine from knocking and you will lose power.

Hotwired05

^^^ Yeah dude I put shitty 87 octane in my tl once I had no choice I ran out of gas.. and the gas station I pulled into had no 91 or even 89 ..I pumped 10 bucks worth of CRAP into my tank my car ran crappy, idled rougher.. I couldn't wait till my tank was empty, was stepping on it all the time and had the Heat at max all the time to burn off the gas faster LOL my average MPG was 13

Afgkid11

dang man
I m so dumb
I have been using 87 for about 20,000 miles
I hope I don't mess the engine up
I m going stop using 87

AtlM5

^lol at first post...

D's Up

OH F*ck. So it wasn't just in my head. . That's bad.

I did it to see if I could notice a difference between 87 and 91. I guess I know now.

Oh bacha, thu dewana astee.
You have to pump 91. Our compression ratio is so high (11:1) that pumping any Octane lower than that will have immediate negative effects.

I just wrote that even though I made the same mistake 2 nights ago...LOL

LOL at your life.
I'm extremely jealous of your TL.
Just sayin'.
back on topic now.



Do you guys think if I had pumped 91 that I would've stood a better chance?

AtlM5

^ummm thank you?I think... and yea get some 91 in there to stop the ecu from retarding timing and you should be a little better off. It should be closeish but I think he'll win.

D's Up

It's a compliment. You've got many more mods than I do, that's why I'm jealous.

Hmm..I wonder if I'll run into him tonight.

Blazing GT

i dont think you can beat a hemi though

Rockstar21

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^^ i pulled on an R/T charger on the interstate in my TL... all it had was breathing mods.

BostonSilverTypeS

i would run against that hemi...and I think it would be a good outcome on my behalf....bump 91octane 93 only baby ftw....i feel for those states that dont have 93...(uhm uhm MAINE)......but back to the topic yea 91 i think it would be a much closer race and you did mention you let off the throttle as he gunned so that also makes for a huge diffirence...GL next time

TylerT

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I've pulled a 300C hard from a roll .. from a dig they stand more of a chacne.

Hotwired05

I recently raced a Charger R/T (HEMI), still have the post going about it. Charger R/T's are slower than you would expect them to be. I did best out of 3 (2 from dig, one from roll) and took the R/T every time..300C is no exception... There's even a Charger owner on this site (on my post 08 TL Type S vs. Charger R/T) that admits the problems with those engines, since the MSD switches to 4 cylinders to save gas amongst other things... Besides that the ratios in their transmission aren't that great either... Stock on stock, it shouldn't be much of a problem to take a Charger R/T if you got a 6-speed TL.. auto TL, umm questionable cause that 3rd and 4th is gonna kill ya...

D's Up

I think I can..

I don't think it should be to hard. I guess there's always next time.

I wish we had 93oct in CA. And yeah, I think if I had stayed on it I would've at least kept up.

I think I'm capable of beating him, maybe not as bad as your 6MT type-s did, but I'll still win. Plus, 3rd gear isn't that bad. 4th gear is where trouble starts. However, that means I can run up until ~109mph before I even experience lag from 4th gear.

BostonSilverTypeS

3rd is good, but 4th is where it sucks big.....

The auto 4th gear would be good to throw some nitrous at it that would make that 4th gear alot more interesting

Not saying I have that but you know just saying....

I hate cars

I've run a Hemi 300c in my stock 5at base TL. Dude was an idiot, I wanted to kick his ass so bad.

We ran a couple times with him pulling slightly on me each time.

On our last run I hit it first, stayed ahead with him creeping up on me till about 110mph. I stopped for a redlight and had a lot more brake and traction left, I seriously could've stopped 50' shorter if I wanted to. He goes by me in full ABS and eventually brake smoke and went through the red light. Apparently they don't stop half as good as a TL.

kdawg8526

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this should be close race try not to have a passenger with you next time if u can

Majofo

03tLsNBP

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i matched my friends Charger R/T...then he started modding and blew me away

Ruby

friend totaled his Evo trying to race a 300C. They were neck and neck before he lost control and hit a tree..............

MichaelBenz

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Same here. Left him standing OVER and OVER between Chicago and Indy on I-65 as he tried to keep up. I would let him pass me....get ahead a bit....and he would gun it trying to stay ahead and I would just pass him and leave him over and over. He was a bit disappointed I think being he had his woman with him and got beat over and over. lol

We both had fun though....and made our trips to our destinations faster I guess. lol The highway was dead at the time....was a great time for it.

MichaelBenz

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About 4000# on that beast they have to stop! lol

Slow03Maxima

I agree with the others here. Was able to pull a car from 40-120 on a intake/exhaust/tune charger R/T when my car had only intake. A modded TL auto probably has a good bit more topend than a stock maxima with intake.

Him getting the jump on you made a huge difference, you'll probably get him if you start at the same time or get a small jump.

princelybug

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LOL @ the title of this thread.

Nice death!

HondaProtegeX2.3

its not the rt you need to worry about but is the srt8 that is the king shit.. i would love to race one

Aman

This is all assuming that the 300C was stock...

FastLS6speed

they're ok... not all that fast for the hp that they put down... Id say that the Jeep SRT8 is way faster then the 300/challanger/charger but it also falls on its face once it gets higher up in the speeds... like a brick trying to race

I hate cars

I know all about trying to push a brick through the air...

justnspace

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I seriously was disappointed in the challenger.
it were faster.

FastLS6speed

they need to cram that 6.2 monster into a 2005 stratus rt coupe, convert it to rwd and call i a day... that would be 1 fast ass lil dodge...

ParaSurfer1979

Do you not read gas cap or door? It says 91+ for a reason. It certainly isn't to get your money...lol. You'll feel so much more power after a few tanks. You need to pour in fuel injector cleaner too if I were you to help clean the mess you've been putting in your car.

Slow03Maxima

There's a modded Jeep SRT8 that frequents the same track as me pretty often... runs mid/high 11s in the 118-120 range on his street tires (awd ftw). Pretty impressive for a racing brick.

FastLS6speed

Checkout this TBSS on the vid! The dudes a local guy Kurt who has a nice TT setup on it.. I would say watch the whole vid as this is from a local car club/forum... I'm a member but these guys are to fast for me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G6WOmWn__Y

Slow03Maxima

Yeah any vehicle equipped with a LS derivative is going to have tons of potential to be fast, there are a couple of nasty TBSS around here that used to mess with the street racing scene and showed up at the local 1/8th mile occasionally (one of which is now sitting in a police lot awaiting auction along with 35ish other cars). I like the whole fast SUV thing, but moving 5000lbs around when you can get a vehicle in the 2500-2800lb range LS-x equipped makes an easy choice for me.

I know what you mean about not being fast enough... we'd both need a 200 shot and drag radials to have any chance with those guys.

D's Up

If it makes you guys feel any better I'd need a LOT more than a 200 shot and DR's.
lol

I hate cars

Just watching it makes me go crazy. I miss that scene so much. The trash talking, sandbagging, hustling, and not so much the fighting anymore lol. I'm getting the car finished but with the crack down and new laws I don't think I would ever go to one of the big events again.

I've never seen people throw out bets after the cars are lined up, that's usually taken care of long before they begin. Also, "chase is a race" must not be that big down there because it could've been used a couple times in the video.

Slow03Maxima

Yeah I'm glad I avoided it all, even if I probably could have taken a lot of money from random bolton imports and stockish domestics that liked to pick on "granny cars" like mine... About a year ago here, they finished a 3-4 month long undercover operation that put 30+ cars in impound (to be auctioned) and resulted in 100s of tickets with loads of video proof. Some of them only ran once and didn't find out they were screwed until several months later. The TBSS guy I was talking about wound up on the news.

I hate cars

The one thing that made me really think was they did an undercover sting and I had just run my car right before. The next race after mine was two Mustangs. The cops hit the lights at the other end and the ones in the crowd near the start boxed us all in. The only thing that saved us was one of the drivers caught in the act was an off duty cop or Sheriff. They wrote some tickets but that was it. I guess they didn't want it making the news. After that I would set up small races with me and one other car and a couple friends but no more of the 50+ cars with 300+ people.

jr27

its funny because i came across this thread last night and was thinking to myself that it would be interesting to see how my tl would do against a 300c. now this morning on my way to work, a silver 300c pulled up on a red light right before the freeway on ramp. once on the freeway we hit it from like a 40 mph roll and i kept pulling away, then we did a couple more from like 55mph. he had some 20" or 22" wheels from what i could see but my car has 20's too so i was very happy that i kept pulling on him time and time again, until i got to my exit.

Slow03Maxima

Yeah that is seriously lucky, I bet that cop got some shit. That's the only way I will street race if I do, on the "safest" highway around in an area with no exits with some friends riding ahead and behind to keep watch for any cops sitting around or riding behind us watching. Even then, I prefer to just take it to the track... It's a lot more fun that way even though most of the guys who want to run me won't go near a track because they'd have to race me from a dig.