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Old 02-10-2013, 08:24 AM
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I predicted the Winston Cup will be won by either Richard Petty, David Pearson, or Cale Yarborough. The Hemis are a little loose in turn four at the practice sessions at Daytona, and they still can't understand why all the makes only make left hand turns.

Well it could be worse... you could be forced to watch golf on ice skates in some cold ass place.
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With a woman on the pole, they'll have to start the race tomorrow to finish by next Sunday to get all the bathroom breaks in.
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Much respect to Danica. Nice job. All of the SHR cars were fast all weekend. I thought the Fords would dominate but guess not.
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^ +1 yeah good for her, apparently Patrick had some revelation in the off-season and for whatever reason it's paying off now.
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Well she did trade her elderly husband for a younger piece of meat
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^ +1 yeah good for her, apparently Patrick had some revelation in the off-season and for whatever reason it's paying off now.
A little concerned about her lack of experience running the draft. I dont recall her having practiced with the pack in the new Gen-6 cars and all drivers have said how twitchy the new car can get when unsettled. Its going to be interesting how she runs.
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At least 28 fans injured as car slams fence in Nationwide race at Daytona

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar...0--nascar.html

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-...005423629.html

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/race-fa...2--nascar.html

Hope everyone recovers fully from this, as bad as it was it could have been much worst had the engine not gotten hung up in the catch fencing.

In the 90's a couple fans were killed at MIS when a CART racecar tire went into the grandstands after a accident. Alot of energy in a race wheel/tire when it's going 220+ and spinning.
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Happened to watch the last few laps live and knew it was going to be bad when I saw it go up in the fence. Hopefully no long-term injuries.
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Check out the camera guy, right where it hit. I read he got out of the way just in time.
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A tire flew over the 22-foot tall fence and landed about 40 rows up.
Just saw this in an ESPN article about one of the injured fans
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One news report had two critical injures that were later downgraded fortunately.
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One news report had two critical injures that were later downgraded fortunately.
Thank goodness
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Jesus... hope everyone turns out alright and nothing severe...


On another note, I was trying by this place which is a small place old guys hit up to get a beer and watch a game etc and noticed it was way packed today. Then I remembered it was the Daytona 500 today and ...yea...



There wer about 10 more trucks I didn't get in the pic but you get the idea
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She ran a good race except for the last lap, not sure if her spotter spooked her but she was 3rd until the accident that was well behind her and she fell back to 8th. None the less, she proved herself today.
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Now for the next week all we will hear is how Danica made history finishing 8th at Daytona
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Now for the next week all we will hear is how Danica made history finishing 8th at Daytona
I think she may have been the first ever 8th place finisher to receive a post race interview.
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NASCAR as a whole needs something positive to happen. I bet they would've killed to have her get the win today if they had the choice.

From what I saw of it the race was kind of a snoozer (not because there wasn't a bunch of wrecks). Just wasn't seeing as much passing as I thought I would. Maybe they're not used to the new cars, or maybe I just didn't see enough of the race?
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NASCAR as a whole needs something positive to happen. I bet they would've killed to have her get the win today if they had the choice.

From what I saw of it the race was kind of a snoozer (not because there wasn't a bunch of wrecks). Just wasn't seeing as much passing as I thought I would. Maybe they're not used to the new cars, or maybe I just didn't see enough of the race?
No you saw enough. I think, and I may be premature in saying this, its the product of the new Gen-6. You cant sandbag and cruise around all race then make a move to pass 30 cars in the last 5 laps. Once you're in the lead, its yours. Restrictor plates + super speedway + new Gen-6 = snoozefest. I hope it doesnt ruin Bristol or Martinesville. Outside of the last lap mayhem, the Nationwide race was much more fun to watch.

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Like this one better.
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Rowdy was untouchable today in the 54. Unbelievable!
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The trucks are running at Eldora on the dirt, f-ing
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AP sources: Newman replaces Truex in NASCAR chase

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Only caught the highlights but MWR approach to track tactic cheating was sorta obvious to even a very novice occasional fan (ie me).


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Didn't want to start a new thread (title update to General NASCAR news?)

https://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cu...power-1043598/

Team Penske’s Brad Keselowski says that the NASCAR Cup series should incorporate hybrid power by adopting a KERS system similar to Formula 1 to improve racing and attract new manufacturers.

NASCAR's Gen-6 Cup cars use V8 engines, which Keselowski believes should be retained in order to avoid similar criticism to F1 use of V6 powerplants.

Keselowski adds that adopting a similar system to F1’s KERS – which harvests energy under braking to be re-deployed – would upgrade power to around 1000bhp.

In a blog post on his website, Keselowski says that the costs of hybrid technology are not an issue because “smaller teams are always going to struggle” and “We can’t let that get in the way of making the sport better.”

Keselowski believes safety standards would need to be “rigorous” in order to adapt to “extremely dangerous” batteries.

“There are a number of compelling reasons to go hybrid,” Keselowski said on his blog. “Manufacturers are spending money like crazy in Formula E because they all want their brands associated with electric vehicles.

“Contrast that with NASCAR, where manufacturers are trying to divest themselves from gas-only V8s and other impractical engines, which aren’t relevant to today’s technology.

“Our sport relies heavily on manufacturers to be successful. Without them, we can’t operate.

“I believe that hybrid vehicles are the future. If we switch to hybrids, we accomplish several things.

“First, we engage our manufacturers in a new way that has never been seen before. Right now, OEMs spend millions of dollars in racing and they develop a few parts, none of which are really mission-critical parts for them.

“Imagine if instead, we’re helping them develop this KERS-style hybrid technology. In that way, NASCAR would be more relevant to the car world than it’s ever been.”

How it could improve the on-track product

Keselowski outlined how it could improve racing.

“Let’s say a yellow comes out. According to our new parameters, all cars would switch to electric in their hybrid engines in order to save precious fuel,” he said.

“In that moment, the field would go silent, and wouldn’t be burning gas anymore. This would be great for our fans because it would bring down the wall of useless noise for a few minutes while we’re under caution.

“But the second the race goes green, the field — at least those cars in it that still have their KERS reserve power — is firing on both the electric and the gas-powered systems.

“They’re using the energy recovered during the race. For the next lap or two, until the electricity is used up, you’re watching the most powerful race cars ever going extremely fast.

“Or think about how race strategy would change as the KERS system recharged during a race, and you had that extra boost available to you at a critical point near the end, right when you needed to make a pass.

“You hit the button and boom, you’ve got that power. We’ve got a kind of finish that doesn’t exist in NASCAR today — or anywhere in motorsports, for that matter.”
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Like that makes a lot of sense-right when F1 is considering ditching some of the very expensive technology of its current engine formula, NASCAR types think it's the way to go.
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^ , +1 NASCAR which struggled just to get Throttlebody Fuel Injection into the cars only a handful of years ago. Remember when Tony Stewart couldn't restart his motor while coasting down during a caution in a race a few years ago. Could only imagine the drivers having to deal with KERS. NASCAR has lots of attendance and money problems with many fickle fans fading out of the sport. Got too expensive, alienated the older loyal fan base and now there's lots of empty grandstands at many races all over.
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The sports car will take to the ovals in the Xfinity Series.


The Toyota Camry is headed to its final pit stop in NASCAR’s Xfinity Series. In its stead, the Japanese auto giant will field a race car that previews the look of the upcoming Toyota Supra. Toyota formally pulled the wraps off the Xfinity Series Supra in Daytona Beach, Florida, on the eve of the Coca-Cola Firecracker 250 race.

The new racer complies with the Xfinity Series’ 2019 rule changes, which include the use of flange-fit composite bodies in place of today’s steel bodies. The composite-bodied cars are said to weigh 150 pounds less than their steel-bodied counterparts. NASCAR estimates the new panels can be installed onto the chassis in as little as two days. Compare that with the nearly two weeks it takes to form and weld the steel panels of current Xfinity Series race cars.

Per Xfinity Series rules, the NASCAR Supra will rely on a hulking V-8 engine and an old-school four-speed manual gearbox to push power rearward to a nine-inch Ford rear end with a locking differential. With the exception of its rear-drive orientation, the Xfinity Series Supra’s chassis and powertrain are entirely unrelated to the upcoming production car.

Although Toyota is keeping mum on powertrain information for the new Supra, the two-door sports coupe is all but certain to follow in the tread marks of Supras past and rely on a straight-six engine for motivation; it’s likely to be sourced from BMW. A manual transmission is still in questionbut is not expected to be offered initially.

Despite its vague connection to the production car, the Xfinity Series Supra strikes us as a step in the right direction for the famed nameplate. In conjunction with the race-ready GR Supra Racing concept that Toyota unveiled at the 2018 Geneva auto show, the NASCAR Supra further solidifies the production car’s sporting bent.

Look for the Xfinity Series Supra to compete in its first race at next February’s Daytona 300 in Daytona Beach, Florida. While Toyota will continue to race the Camry in the 2019 Monster Energy Series, we expect the company to transition to Supra-style bodywork in that series within the next few years as well.

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It's pretty hard to make a Camry look better than a Supra, but somehow they managed to do it.
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At least it's a performance car. Always found it funny that the NASCAR cars are named after their FWD econobox road-going versions.

Also, can we get a thread title update? NASCAR: General News & Discussion, maybe?
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At least it's a performance car. Always found it funny that the NASCAR cars are named after their FWD econobox road-going versions.

Also, can we get a thread title update? NASCAR: General News & Discussion, maybe?
Done with the title change.

I actually think it is weird changing changing NASCAR to performance cars. Now they are treading into the sports car category. Perhaps this was forced on by NASCAR by Ford, since Ford is now discontinuing all car sales except for Mustang and Focus. It's pretty difficult to imagine a Focus in NASCAR.
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True.
But the lower divisions of NASCAR used the Mustang/Camaro, always seemed backwards to me.
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I didn't even know wipers in NASCAR was a thing.

https://jalopnik.com/nascar-teams-ev...-on-1827975815

NASCAR teams are great at bending rules until they break, working around new rules that dock car performance, and using existing rules to get an advantage. That last part is why you might see a race car with a windshield wiper sticking straight up on a sunny, dry day, and why NASCAR may start mandating when teams can and can’t have a wiper on their car at road-course races.


In true NASCAR fashion, teams found a way to get an aerodynamic advantage out of a wiper, of all things, by running up the windshield in a fixed spot—in a pretty goofy-looking manner. It’s a relatively recent thing at road courses, with photos from the 2016 Sonoma Raceway event appearing to show no cars running a wiper in the sun and only a few teams doing it during a sunny 2017 race.

But NBC Sports quoted NASCAR senior vice president of competition Scott Miller as saying that would probably change next year, because NASCAR’s looking to get more strict on when during a road-course weekend teams can use the wipers. A good guideline on this would be “when it’s raining.”

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“We’ve typically let them run the wiper blade whether it was dry or whether it was not,” Miller said on SiriusXM NASCAR Radio. “Ironically, that’s on our list for 2019 rules and we will tell them when they can and when they can’t run the windshield wiper blade.

“If we see anything this weekend that is completely outlandish, we will probably react to that. Typically they’ve been able to run the blade whenever they want to and we’re definitely looking at that.”
If the whole “wipers” thing has been confusing you for a full five paragraphs now, that’s understandable. There are only a few tracks each season where NASCAR will actually let drivers race in the rain and it doesn’t always rain at those tracks, so wipers are hardly relevant—or so most of us thought.

NASCAR lets its top three series race in the rain on the road courses, which typically have a more winding layout, lower speeds and more runoff area than the ovals, triangles and squares that make up more than 90 percent of the Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series schedule.

That means cars need rarely used modifications for rain, like swapping racing slicks for tires that have tread and putting on wipers. NASCAR wasn’t telling teams when they could or couldn’t use the wipers at road courses—probably because most normal humans equate the use of wipers with rain, not sun—and teams found an advantage to using them all the time in recent years.

Thus, almost every car in a NASCAR field looks like it has a giant piece of hair in its eyes while racing on a road course, because almost every car is using a windshield wiper in full sunlight. A source with knowledge on NASCAR aero told Jalopnik fixing a wiper to the car gives teams a minor aerodynamic advantage or they wouldn’t do it at all, but that a wiper isn’t going to win or lose a race.

Photos from Sonoma Raceway in June show that most cars did run the wiper, though, including race winner Martin Truex Jr.’s Toyota. The Stewart-Haas Racing Fords, which have been dominant this year, didn’t run wipers and all finished in the top 10 there.

Photos also show that not every race team had the same ideas when fixing the wiper to a certain position on the windshield:

NASCAR: where minor performance advantages outweigh goofy appearances, until somebody makes a rule that teams can’t do all of that stuff anymore.





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That's a weird position for the wipers. In Super GT and DTM, the wipers are at the 90 degree position. I wonder what's the purpose of it being at 45 degrees?
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Maybe more R than L turns, or vice versa & a marginal aero benefit for it? Doesn't look to be consistent across multiple cars. Maybe no set neutral return position & that's where it was when switched off? Or, when off to the R, it's less of a driver distraction?

Is the vertical wiper in DTM a series rule/reg?
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I'll have to ask around this weekend at the Glen and get the inside scoop. The guys down at the tech inspection are pretty forthcoming as they're looking for the guys that cheat or bend the rules a bit. My passes came in today, it is now the "Go Bowling at The Glen" and by my brother's numbers demographically, this group represents a huge number of people that are also NASCAR folks. Should be a fun weekend as it is my nephew's 21st birthday as well ("Uncle Scott, can you believe it? An open bar and my 21st birthday??!)
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didn't get to ask about the wiper question this past weekend. Here's the last re-start with Chase Elliott in the lead, Martin Truex hot on his tail

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