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Old 06-22-2023, 12:31 PM
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A few years ago, James Allison (technical director of Mercedes Benz F1 team) made the statement that F1 success was "40% chassis, 40% powertrain, and 20% driver".
I've never heard any MotoGP team principal or technical director make a similar statement for MotoGP, but my guess would be 30% chassis, 30% powertrain, and 40% rider.
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^ Could probably divvy that chassis number further into chassis v aero
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2

YTTV didn't record the German GP
It was a great race. Most races this year have been blah, but this one was good.
Old 06-22-2023, 01:09 PM
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Need to be better about checking these. F1 records like clockwork, but GP is always a bit wonky. It records a bunch of MX races along with GP, can't program to just gram MotoGP
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Need to be better about checking these. F1 records like clockwork, but GP is always a bit wonky. It records a bunch of MX races along with GP, can't program to just gram MotoGP
I have Comcast Fios, and they do a good job of coding the programs.
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With YTTV you pick the program & it's supposed to find it on all channels. Just drops the ball on occasion when it's on a 1-off type channel. Catches F1 when it's on the local ABC channel for the US races.
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As usual, 93 hid the full extent of his injuries from last weekend's nasty high side crash during warm up. He has a fractured rib in addition to the previously discussed fractured thumb and bruised ankle. Sounds like the fractured rib is giving him more issues than the other two injuries.

An interesting silly season rumor is that Yamaha may be looking at Rins or Mir to replace Morbidelli next season.

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Only caught half of Assen this morning before heading to the office. Crazy the number of riders out so early.
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That was definitely an exceptionally high attrition rate in Assen.
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Binder made a blistering start, Miller was running well too until losing the front.
Aleix was running 4th when I had to hit the road for the office. May try to finish the race at lunch.

Love that last chicane, especially with a few bikes running through it. Visually stunning & looks like a fun ride.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Binder made a blistering start, Miller was running well too until losing the front.
Aleix was running 4th when I had to hit the road for the office. May try to finish the race at lunch.

Love that last chicane, especially with a few bikes running through it. Visually stunning & looks like a fun ride.
The last chicane in Assen is legendary. We had almost no passing there this year. (was there any?) Youtube might have some of the more famous last lap passes that occured there.
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Honda and Yamaha may get concessions to help them catch back up to Ducati and KTM.

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Old 06-29-2023, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowLane
Honda and Yamaha may get concessions to help them catch back up to Ducati and KTM.

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I was thinking something like this would happen. I guess it's only fair, since Ducati, KTM, Aprillia got concessions previously.
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https://us.motorsport.com/moto2/news...2024/10486776/


The Moto2 and Moto3 tyre supply has always differed from the MotoGP class, with Dunlop rubber powering the lower categories for over a decade now.

Dunlop's current contract with Dorna Sports, MotoGP's promoter, comes to a conclusion this year.

Motorsport.com reported last week that Italian tyre brand Pirelli will take over as the sole supplier for Moto2 and Moto3 from the 2024 season, building on its top tier motorcycle racing presence having been the long-time supplier of the World Superbike Championship.

On Thursday, Dorna confirmed that a three-year deal with Pirelli is being finalised.

"We’re super happy to welcome Pirelli to the paddock as the sole tyre supplier for Moto2 and Moto3, and across the Road to MotoGP," Dorna CEO Carmelo Ezpeleta said.

"These championships are the best example in motorsport of strong feeder classes that also stand alone as high-level competitions, in terms of both their sporting and commercial value.

"So we’re very happy to have seen such a high level of interest from Pirelli and to reach this agreement.

"Welcoming a new partner also underlines our sport’s strong connections and relationships with the industry, and we’re very much looking forward to working with Pirelli across a number of areas, including performance, road-relevance and, of course, sustainability."

Pirelli's involvement in the MotoGP World Championship will be limited to just the Moto2 and Moto3 classes for now, as Michelin - who took over from Bridgestone in 2016 - has an exclusivity deal with MotoGP that expires in 2026 prior to a shake-up in the technical regulations from 2027.

Pirelli would also be the supplier of other minor championships such as the Junior GP World Championship, the Asian Talent Cup and the recently created Latin America Talent Cup, through which young riders will develop using the same tyres through to the second and third tier of the MotoGP World Championship.

Pirelli is also Formula 1's official tyre supplier, having taken over from Bridgestone in 2011, and is also the sole supplier for the World Rally Championship.

In addition to monopolising these disciplines and another 30 smaller ones in more than 40 countries, the Lombardy-based company supplies big teams in the Motocross World Championship in the MXGP and MX2 categories.

Motorsport.com understands MotoGP currently has no plans to bring back a tyre war, as was the case prior to the 2009 season.

The arrival of Pirelli as sole tyre supplier marks one of the biggest technical changes to the Moto3 class since its inception in 2012, and will be Moto2's first major shake-up since Triumph took over as engine supplier in 2019.

This move comes as Pirelli's tenure as F1's sole tyre supplier could be under threat, after the series opened up the tender process for the 2025 season onwards.

This process has moved to its next phase, with Bridgestone the frontrunner to replace Pirelli in F1.
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You can buy an Airbnb stay in Marc Marquez’s MotoGP motorhome!

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/10...togp-motorhome

Somehow I extremely doubt Marquez needs the money
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I hope Marquez can survive with only 93 euros.
Old 08-02-2023, 07:48 AM
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Morbidelli out of Yamaha next season. Rins will replace him.

The Dominoes Start To Fall: Yamaha Announce Morbidelli To Leave, Rins To Take His Place In Monster Energy Yamaha For 2024 | MotoMatters.com | Kropotkin Thinks
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Maybe the Yamaha will suit Rins better than the Honda. Neither seems the ideal choice looking at this season, with the Italians running away with it.

Question becomes, where does FM end up?

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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Maybe the Yamaha will suit Rins better than the Honda. Neither seems the ideal choice looking at this season, with the Italians running away with it.

Question becomes, where does FM end up?
Rumors and speculation for now, but Bezzecchi may move to the Pramac team alongside Jorge Martin. Pramac has been the top independent Ducati team and get current spec bikes. Bezz has earned that so far this season. That means Zarco would likely have to move on. If Bezzecchi moves to Pramac, then there will be an open spot on the VR46 team. That is where Morbidelli might end up. He is a VR46 academy rider and Rossi has tried to develop him. If not VR46 then maybe World Superbike?

Iker Lecuona is supposedly going to return to Moto GP and take Rins spot at LCR Honda. Lecuona is currently riding for Honda in World Superbike.


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Well that was a fun British GP
Aprilia made some big gains, BB mixing it up in the front, bummer for Miller to fall back after a storming start.
Glad for Aleix, that was a mighty move to make a pass into Maggots & hold the Ducati off.
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Good to have MotoGP back.
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And a great race to start the return after the break
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Alex Marquez won the sprint on Saturday, with Bezz in 2nd and Vinales in 3rd.

Marquez 93 hid another significant injury from his crashes at the German GP. He has a torn ligament in his right ankle. It was obvious he was struggling a little getting on and off the bike.

On the silly season front, another potential replacement for Rins at LCR Honda could be Zarco. Ducati confirmed during practice that they think Bezz deserves a current spec bike next season, but that the number of current spec bikes will remain the same (2 factory team, 2 Pramac).

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https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2023/...or-2024/476458


LCR Honda Castrol is proud to announce the signing of Johann Zarco. The two-time Moto2™ World Champion French rider will join the team in 2024 on a two-year contract.

Considering Johann’s experience and performance in MotoGP™ since he stepped into the category, LCR and HRC are excited to start a journey together. Back in 2019, Zarco served the team as a replacement rider, and his commitment and hard work match the values of LCR.

Lucio Cecchinello, LCR Honda Team Principal: “We are very excited to welcome Johann to the LCR Honda Castrol team with all the respective details and signatures now in place. It is a return to the team after we had some brief time together in 2019, where we could already see his potential and work ethic. There are still a lot of races and work to be done this season, but we are looking forward to the start of this new project in 2024.”
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Zarco to LCR Honda, to which Alex Marquez said, "Good luck".

Apparently, Bezzecchi might stay at VR46 next season. Who will get the 2nd Pramac Ducati seat if that happens? Morbidelli? Could Mir or Marquez 93 break their contract and leave Honda next season? Current Moto 2 Championship leader Pedro Acosta is another possibility, but he is supposed to remain with KTM when he moves up to Moto GP next season.

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Horrific accident with Bagnaia at Catalunya. Incredible that he hasn't broken anything and might race at the next race.
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Originally Posted by F-C
Horrific accident with Bagnaia at Catalunya. Incredible that he hasn't broken anything and might race at the next race.
It was a crazy start with Bastianini causing the initial multi-rider crash. Sounds like he has a broken ankle and finger(s) and will likely need surgery.

Almost as crazy is the rumor that the Marquez brothers could be on the same team next season. It has been around for the last couple of races. Apparently, 93 Marquez offered himself to Gresini for very little money next season. The rumor continued this weekend with speculation that Ducati is holding a seat open for 93. Hard to believe he would break contract with Honda, but they are doing terrible.
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YTTV didn't even recognize that the race happened. 2nd time this season, I think.
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https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2023/...surgery/477244


Ducati Lenovo Team have confirmed that Enea Bastianini has had successful surgery on the injuries he sustained in the Turn 1 crash that unfolded at the start of Sunday’s Catalan GP.

The Italian underwent surgery on his left ankle and left hand fractures, with the two surgeries, performed by Prof. Catani and Tarallo at the Policlinico of Modena, concluded successfully as ‘The Beast’ gets set to begin the post-surgery recovery.

Ducati also confirmed that the #23, who missed the first five races of the season after fracturing his shoulder blade in Portimao’s Tissot Sprint, will have to miss this weekend’s home Grand Prix in Misano and the two events that follow in India and Japan.
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Ahead of the team and rider’s home race, Mooney VR46 Racing Team have confirmed that Luca Marini will remain with the squad for the 2024 MotoGP™ season.

Joining the Moto2™ team in 2018, Marini links the key moments of his sporting career to this crew. His first podium came at the 2018 German GP; in the same year, he finished second in the intermediate class World Championship.

Currently seventh in the overall standings (125 points), Marini is among the most solid riders in MotoGP™. Constantly in the top 10, the Italian has claimed a Sunday race P2 at the Americas GP, plus a P3 in the Argentina GP Tissot Sprint. The #10 and Marco Bezzecchi get set for their third consecutive season together donning VR46 colours in the premier class.
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With Alex Rins still sidelined through injury, HRC test rider Takumi Takahashi will stand in at LCR Honda Castrol this weekend at the Gran Premio Red Bull di San Marino e della Riviera di Rimini.

Iker Lecuona has been Rins’ replacement rider since the latter fractured his leg at the Italian GP in June, but Lecuona is on WorldSBK duties in Magny-Cours this weekend. Instead, Suzuka 8 Hours winner Takahashi will line up alongside compatriot Takaaki Nakagami (LCR Honda Idemitsu) in Misano.
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2023/...ldcards/477318


Not one, not two, but three familiar names are ready to make wildcard appearances this weekend at the Gran Premio Red Bull di San Marino e della Riviera di Rimini.

In the orange corner, Dani Pedrosa will be back on track donning Red Bull KTM Factory Racing colours for his second wildcard of the season after his more than impressive outing at the Spanish GP.

Stefan Bradl was a Team HRC wildcard at the Circuito de Jerez-Angel Nieto as well, as the German prepares for his fourth MotoGP™ race weekend of 2023. Meanwhile, Michele Pirro will be wildcarding with Aruba.it Racing Ducati on home turf as the Italian gets back amongst it for the third time of the year.
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Marquez to choose one of three 2024 plans around India and Japan (motogp.com)

Repsol Honda Team’s Marc Marquez will officially reveal where he’ll be riding in 2024 inside the next three weeks after confirming at the Misano Test on Monday that his decision will be made during the Indian and Japanese Grands Prix.

The eight-time World Champion said he has three options for next season, a "Plan A, Plan B and Plan C", with only "one or two people" in his close circle aware of his options.

"There's plan A, plan B, and plan C, which I previously mentioned as two, there are three. I have the three plans, the three ideas very clear, I am clear about what needs to happen for each of them. But there isn’t much time. There is a deadline. Around India, Japan I will decide."
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Pedrosa put in a stunning ride at Misano. Commentary kept mentioning the CF chassis on the KTM, development piece that Miller/Binder aren't running?
Bags put in a great ride, considering getting run over a week prior.
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Morbidelli to Pramac for '24

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2023/...-racing/478350


Franco Morbidelli has signed an agreement with Ducati that will see the Roman rider join the Pramac Racing Team for the 2024 season alongside Jorge Martin, both riding the Desmosedici GP24.

​​​​​​​Vice-World Champion in MotoGP in 2020, Moto2 World Champion in 2017, and European Superstock 600 Champion in 2013, Franco Morbidelli will bring the Italian flag back to the Pramac Racing team's garage three seasons after Pecco Bagnaia.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
I wonder if this has any impact on Marquez 93's options for next season. He said he has three options.

1. Stay with Honda
2. Gresini Ducati or maybe KTM?
3. Not sure if retirement counts as an option

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I saw that Miller made a comment about his seat being in possible jeopardy to MM
Miller seems like a he's not really had the pace the past few races.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
I saw that Miller made a comment about his seat being in possible jeopardy to MM
Miller seems like a he's not really had the pace the past few races.
Interesting. KTM also have to make room for Pedro Acosta in Moto GP next season. He is a very good rider and leading the Moto 2 championship. I heard KTM inquired about adding a 2nd satellite team next season, but not sure that is possible.

Andrea Iannone's temp ban is ending this year. Ducati have confirmed that he will race on a satellite team for them in World Superbike next season.


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22 Round Season for 2024

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The schedule had already been announced to begin on 10 March with the Qatar Grand Prix, which returns to the season-opening slot having been moved to November in 2023 due to track updates earlier this year.

MotoGP will then head to Europe for the Portuguese GP – which opened the 2022 calendar – before the Argentina GP on 7 April.

As was the case this season, Argentina is back-to-back with the Americas GP at COTA on 14 April, before the championship heads back to Europe for the Spanish GP on 28 April.

Next year will see the return of all four Spanish venues, after Aragon was benched for the 2022 season, and so no rotation of the Iberian events will take place.

The French GP is on 12 May followed by the Catalan GP on 26 May, which is back-to-back with the Italian GP at Mugello on 2 June.

The European run is interrupted by the second attempt to stage the inaugural Kazakhstan GP at the Sokol circuit.

MotoGP had hoped to race in the country in July of this year, but cancelled the event as the circuit would not be ready on time.

The Dutch GP will take place on 30 June followed by the German GP on 7 July, before a three-week summer.

The second half of the season resumes on 4 August with the British GP at Silverstone, with the Austrian GP taking place on 18 August.

The next back-to-back of the year starts on 1 September with the return of the Aragon GP, which was taken off the schedule this year, and the San Marino GP on 8 September.

Despite suggestions the Indian GP would be pushed back to October following this year’s inaugural running of the event, the second edition will take place on 22 September.

It forms the first of a triple-header with Indonesia (29 September) and Japan (6 October).

A week off is followed by the next triple-header of Australia (20 October), Thailand (27 October) and Malaysia (3 November).

The championship concludes on 17 November with the Valencia GP. Pre-season testing in 2024 begins on 6-8 February in Malaysia, followed by two days in Qatar on 19-20 February.

Disappointingly, 11 MotoGP rounds will clash with Formula 1 events next season – with timezone clashes for F1 Monaco and MotoGP Barcelona; F1 Austria and MotoGP Assen and F1 Italy and MotoGP Aragon.

MotoGP has also confirmed that the new Balaton Park track in Hungary has been added to the reserve list, subject to the venue receiving homologation.
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Which really means 44 races, counting the sprints
Getting to nearly too much for these guys, I'm sure.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Which really means 44 races, counting the sprints
Getting to nearly too much for these guys, I'm sure.
Definitely. Four races in Spain and one nearby in Portugal. Drop one of those. Same with the six fly aways at the end of the season. Drop one of those too.

Impressive race by Bezz in India. Probably would have won the sprint too, but he had a poor start and got rear ended in the first corner by teammate Marini. Still managed to recover and finish 5th.

Marquez 73 had a nasty high side crash towards the end of Q1 and fractured a couple of ribs.

The Marquez 93 decision 2024 saga continues. One of the Ducati team leads said during Q1 that they fully support Marc moving to Gresini, and that it is up to Marc at this point. His decision has implications in the World Superbike paddock. WSBK announcers said that Honda factory team rider Iker Lecuona's contract is on hold. If Marc moves to Gresini, then Zarco would likely move up to the Repsol team and Lecuona would return to Moto GP at LCR Honda. Another rider that could take Lecuona's spot at Honda in WSBK also hinted that everyone is waiting on Marc.








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