Notices

IndyCar: News and Discussion Thread

 
Old 01-18-2019, 09:26 AM
  #201  
Registered Member
 
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spring, TX
Age: 33
Posts: 11,951
Received 1,654 Likes on 1,221 Posts
https://racer.com/2019/01/17/indycar...peedway-races/

The NTT IndyCar Series will provide its teams with more options to generate downforce at its superspeedway events in Indianapolis, Pocono, and Dallas-Fort Worth.

The change in philosophy comes after consulting IndyCar’s drivers and race engineers on the best way to create more dynamic racing at the Indianapolis 500 and the Pocono 500, in particular, with its new-for-2018 universal aero kit.

Both marquee events fell short of expectations after teams complied with rules calling for reduced downforce; a narrow range of aerodynamic tuning options, especially at the back of the cars with strict limits on rear wing angles, made it difficult to achieve an aero balance that met each driver’s needs.

The new solution offered by IndyCar is to provide more aero tuning freedom in superspeedway trim, specifically through downforce-adding Gurney flaps atop the spec rear wing element at the rear of the Chevy- and Honda-powered Dallara DW12s.

Three 3/8-inch tall flaps, which are optional, have been approved for use that vary in width and downforce production. The first, 13.2 inches wide, adds 50 pounds of downforce. The second, at 24.5 inches wide, provides a 100-pound increase in downforce. And the third, which spans the full width of the wing, offers 200 pounds of downforce.

IndyCar has approved the 50- and 100-pound flaps for Indy, and all three for Pocono. The pieces are not permitted at Texas Motor Speedway.

“They give pretty substantial amounts of downforce because the rear wing is so small,” Simon Pagenaud’s Team Penske Chevy engineer Ben Bretzman told RACER. “This is in response to how we’re going to make the racing better, and I think some of that will also be achieved by the tires Firestone is bringing. I know IndyCar is trying to get to a downforce level where we can have more overall downforce and grip, and this gives us more options to make the cars handle better — especially in traffic.”

Extreme heat at the Indy 500 exacerbated the problem. Teams piled on all the downforce allowed in the rules, and yet, with the hot air serving to reduce overall downforce, all manner of handling imbalances — and numerous crashes — were seen. Bretzman believes the options to add rear downforce, which can be balanced by adding more front wing angle, should improve the situation without giving teams the ability to run excessive downforce.

“It was so hot in the race, and we were maxed out on downforce, so there were things that made it challenging to cope,” he said. “It was very tough to run behind people, and this solution comes from everyone working on it to help improve the show. We’ve had a lot of downforce levels we’ve run at Indy with the DW12, and we have an idea of what we need to put on that good racing, which IndyCar is aiming to hit with the UAK18 kit and these changes.”
00TL-P3.2 is offline  
Old 01-21-2019, 10:15 AM
  #202  
Registered Member
 
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spring, TX
Age: 33
Posts: 11,951
Received 1,654 Likes on 1,221 Posts
https://racer.com/2019/01/18/indycar...t-wing-tweaks/

Complementing the new rear downforce options the IndyCar Series has given its teams on superspeedways, one downforce addition and one wing modification have also been ratified for 2019.

With teams calling for an increase in rear downforce, and those requests having been met, a similar need for more front downforce has been met with the option of installing a third piece to the ‘Pocono’ front wing extensions. Despite its small size, the 3/8-inch tall and 5.5-inch wide Gurney flap will generate more downforce across the front axle, and can be used — asymmetrically, if desired — to help improve aerodynamic balance.

“To place more power on the front wing, they’ve allowed the extensions for all tracks, and that should give us the better ability to add downforce if we feel it’s warranted,” Scott Dixon’s championship-winning race engineer Chris Simmons told RACER. “And it’s also meant to improve a driver’s ability to pass on the big ovals by giving that extra front grip.”

Harder racing should come as a byproduct of making more front and rear downforce options available on the superspeedways, and in an effort to curb the problems caused last year when pursuing cars lost front downforce while running in turbulent air, the series has instructed its teams to notch the outer portion of the front speedway wings.

“We did some testing with IndyCar late last year and tried this change,” Simmons added. “IndyCar did some CFD work to find why it wasn’t easy to follow other cars, and one of the studies found the air separated at the edge of the wing next to the end plate, where it stalls, and the solution they came up with was to shorten the chord at the ends of the wing by cutting out the notches, which reduces the stall, cleans up the air and makes the front wing more efficient and consistent for the drivers in traffic.”
00TL-P3.2 is offline  
The following users liked this post:
Legend2TL (01-21-2019)
Old 02-13-2019, 09:09 AM
  #203  
Registered Member
 
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spring, TX
Age: 33
Posts: 11,951
Received 1,654 Likes on 1,221 Posts
https://racer.com/2019/02/12/ericsso...vs-f1-at-cota/

Arrow Schmidt Peterson Motorsports rookie Marcus Ericsson competed at Circuit of The Americas last November in a Sauber Formula 1 car, and tells RACER’s Marshall Pruett about the differences found with his No. 7 Dallara-Honda Indy car.
00TL-P3.2 is offline  
Old 02-26-2019, 09:07 AM
  #204  
Registered Member
 
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spring, TX
Age: 33
Posts: 11,951
Received 1,654 Likes on 1,221 Posts
https://www.autosport.com/indycar/ne...umber-for-indy

Fernando Alonso will run the number 66 on his return to the Indianapolis 500 with McLaren this year.

Alonso - who returns to complete the Indy 500 as the final part of his bid for the 'Triple Crown' of motorsport - used #29 for his debut in 2017.

He has opted to use #66 given it is the number with which McLaren took its first Indy 500 victory with Mark Donohue in 1972.

Donohue used #66 in all five of his Indy 500 appearances with Roger Penske and both of his starts with a McLaren chassis.

His only victory came in 1972 when, after a race of high attrition, he was able to lead the final 13 laps and deliver a win that included a new average speed record.

Alonso's McLaren entry for the Indy 500 will be powered by Chevrolet's twin-turbocharged V6.

Chevrolet is the defending winner of the race, having taken Will Power's Penske entry to victory last May.

Alonso starred in his first attempt on the Indy 500 in 2017, as he qualified on the second row and then led 27 laps before his Honda engine expired.
00TL-P3.2 is offline  
Old 03-11-2019, 06:45 AM
  #205  
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
 
CCColtsicehockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 33
Posts: 41,379
Received 2,596 Likes on 1,862 Posts
First race was entertaining. There are some promising rookies in the series that should be fun to watch. Rosenqvist had a really nice late braking move to take the lead in the middle of the race but he couldn't hold on to win the race. Would have been cool to see a first year driver win the opening race.
CCColtsicehockey is offline  
Old 03-11-2019, 09:37 AM
  #206  
Registered Member
 
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spring, TX
Age: 33
Posts: 11,951
Received 1,654 Likes on 1,221 Posts
https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/n...licum/4350362/

Mark Miles, CEO of Hulman & Company, owners of IndyCar, has confirmed that the series is in talks with promoters Grupo OSD about a race at the Circuito San Juan Villicum in Argentina.

Stephen Starks, IndyCar’s VP of promoter and media partner relations, has visited the track, which hosted its first World Superbike event last year, while OSD has been in St. Petersburg for the NTT IndyCar Series season opener.

Miles told Motorsport.com: “We are exploring possibilities and the potential promoters [Grupo OSD] were here yesterday, but I’d emphasize it’s still early days. They’re a great promoter, they’ve had a great successful event in WSBK and it’s a great track.

“We don’t yet have TV in Argentina but we will, and it would be a spectacular venue for the NTT IndyCar Series.

“It’s a very prosperous region, almost immune to any national economic challenges or difficulties. It’s mining-based.

“[OSD] say motorsport is very important in the region, they get very good crowd numbers and although it’s quite an out-of-the-way place, it’s not hard to get to.”

Team owner Ricardo Juncos, an Argentine native, told Motorsport.com: “It is a fantastic construction and then everything to do with hotels in the city of San Juan is pretty good too, so it is positive in that sense. Now it's up to IndyCar to see if the value they need is achievable or not.

“I got together with IndyCar and the discussion was to evaluate a little what the value of IndyCar is commercially, what they think it is worth, if fans are going to go, and how much to charge for tickets.”

Juncos also confirmed the importance of IndyCar sorting out a TV deal for Argentina.

“Unfortunately, IndyCar is not being shown in Argentina as it was in recent years. That also hurts the product. IndyCar definitely has to analyze that part and understand it in order to reach an agreement that works for everyone.”
00TL-P3.2 is offline  
Old 03-12-2019, 08:08 AM
  #207  
F-C
Senior Moderator
 
F-C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 12,419
Received 303 Likes on 236 Posts
Hmmm.
  • Track is in the middle of nowhere.
  • Largest city nearby only has a population of 100,000
  • IndyCar isn't shown on tv in Argentina
  • No Argentinian drivers in IndyCar

Looks like an easy decision to make.
F-C is online now  
Old 03-24-2019, 04:36 PM
  #208  
Moderator
 
ttribe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Age: 47
Posts: 14,374
Received 4,514 Likes on 2,435 Posts
Hmmm, an open wheel series run at COTA where there's actual OVERTAKING. A LOT OF IT!

Good race.
ttribe is offline  
Old 03-25-2019, 07:52 AM
  #209  
Alright, alright, alright
Thread Starter
 
Legend2TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 12,253
Received 1,721 Likes on 1,126 Posts
^ DVR'ed it, have to watch it. Curious how the racing was compared to F1.

I liked when CART/Champ cars raced at the Montreal F1 track in the 2000's.
Legend2TL is offline  
Old 03-25-2019, 09:33 AM
  #210  
Registered Member
 
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spring, TX
Age: 33
Posts: 11,951
Received 1,654 Likes on 1,221 Posts
I DVR'd it, but didn't watch yet. Watch qualifying & was pretty underwhelmed, compared to F1. Will give the race a shot.

During qualifying, I was surprised to see that there are no rules on track limits, take it as wide/far as you want with no penalty. Just a bit of a shame that the sessions are so short that a red flag can kill your chances.
00TL-P3.2 is offline  
Old 04-03-2019, 02:50 PM
  #211  
Alright, alright, alright
Thread Starter
 
Legend2TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 12,253
Received 1,721 Likes on 1,126 Posts
^ gotta say, the IndyCar at COTA was entertaining. The cars are more jittery and nervous driving at the limit.
Legend2TL is offline  
Old 04-03-2019, 02:50 PM
  #212  
Alright, alright, alright
Thread Starter
 
Legend2TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 12,253
Received 1,721 Likes on 1,126 Posts
Finding speed in an IndyCar, by ex-F1 racer Marcus Ericsson

Legend2TL is offline  
Old 04-03-2019, 04:21 PM
  #213  
Lucky Enzo!
 
kurtatx's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 7,095
Received 1,243 Likes on 870 Posts
I was a the COTA for that race. It was about 10x as exciting as F1 (outside of the rainy year).

Attendance was a bit low, though. Kind of disappointing.
kurtatx is offline  
Old 04-03-2019, 04:41 PM
  #214  
Registered Member
 
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spring, TX
Age: 33
Posts: 11,951
Received 1,654 Likes on 1,221 Posts
I did notice that there were only the permanent grandstands, and that they were not full.

Big attendance difference between F1 & Indy.
00TL-P3.2 is offline  
Old 04-08-2019, 03:14 PM
  #215  
F-C
Senior Moderator
 
F-C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 12,419
Received 303 Likes on 236 Posts


Alonso's car for the Indy 500.

I like the livery, but this car is so ugly in speedway trim. It's an abomination placing this car next to the other McLaren's in the background.
F-C is online now  
Old 04-08-2019, 03:36 PM
  #216  
Lucky Enzo!
 
kurtatx's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 7,095
Received 1,243 Likes on 870 Posts
Originally Posted by F-C View Post


Alonso's car for the Indy 500.

I like the livery, but this car is so ugly in speedway trim. It's an abomination placing this car next to the other McLaren's in the background.
It's an abomination to put any of the last five or six McLaren cars in the same building as older McLarens
kurtatx is offline  
Old 04-08-2019, 06:45 PM
  #217  
F-C
Senior Moderator
 
F-C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 12,419
Received 303 Likes on 236 Posts
Originally Posted by kurtatx View Post
It's an abomination to put any of the last five or six McLaren cars in the same building as older McLarens
True. Those cars should be left the the outhouse behind the main building.
F-C is online now  
Old 05-15-2019, 02:44 PM
  #218  
Alright, alright, alright
Thread Starter
 
Legend2TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 12,253
Received 1,721 Likes on 1,126 Posts
Fernando is now in group B for Indy drivers

Legend2TL is offline  
Old 05-15-2019, 07:55 PM
  #219  
F-C
Senior Moderator
 
F-C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 12,419
Received 303 Likes on 236 Posts
What's Group B?
F-C is online now  
Old 05-16-2019, 07:12 AM
  #220  
Alright, alright, alright
Thread Starter
 
Legend2TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 12,253
Received 1,721 Likes on 1,126 Posts
Originally Posted by F-C View Post
What's Group B?
Group A : Those who haven't hit the wall
Group B : Those who've hit the wall
Legend2TL is offline  
The following users liked this post:
Chief F1 Fan (05-19-2019)
Old 05-16-2019, 03:03 PM
  #221  
Registered Member
 
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spring, TX
Age: 33
Posts: 11,951
Received 1,654 Likes on 1,221 Posts


https://www.thedrive.com/accelerator...es-into-bridge

A wrecker truck carrying Fernando Alonso's mangled McLaren Racing Chevy IndyCar suffered a bizarre accident when it crashed into the famous Gasoline Alley at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. For unknown reasons, the truck driver and on-hand safety marshals failed to take note of the height of the crane carrying the orange racer, causing it to collide with a massive steel beam supporting the Alley's roof.

A photo of the not catastrophic but rather embarrassing "oopsie" was posted to Instagram by former racing driver and NBC Sports commentator Paul Tracywith the caption: "A bad day gets worse when the Alonso wrecker wrecked in the garage and got stuck."

As the photo shows, the red flatbed appears to be making its way out of the Speedway's pit area when the hydraulic arm of the crane hit the roof of Gasoline Alley. I'm certainly not a wrecker truck expert, but by the looks of it, the crane could've been lowered another foot or so in order to help it clear the ceiling. This becomes even more apparent in the photo below taken by IndyCar and IMS photographer Chris Owens, which shows the crane fully extended and sitting much lower than it did when going under the bridge. By the time this second photo was taken, Alonso's car was already being dropped off at its garage, which means they successfully navigated their way out of Gasoline Alley.

It's unclear if the truck suffered any considerable damage to its hydraulic mechanism, but what's more than evident is that the McLaren is going to need quite a few hours of work before it turns laps at over 224 miles per hour once again.
00TL-P3.2 is offline  
Old 05-16-2019, 04:53 PM
  #222  
Alright, alright, alright
Thread Starter
 
Legend2TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 12,253
Received 1,721 Likes on 1,126 Posts
^
Legend2TL is offline  
Old 05-19-2019, 10:28 PM
  #223  
F-C
Senior Moderator
 
F-C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 12,419
Received 303 Likes on 236 Posts
Failed to qualify at Indy...

This is a bigger embarrassment for McLaren and Alonso than their last four years of futility in F1. C'mon McLaren, a spec series? How are you going to explain this one. No one to blame this time.

Last edited by F-C; 05-19-2019 at 10:31 PM.
F-C is online now  
Old 05-20-2019, 07:29 AM
  #224  
Alright, alright, alright
Thread Starter
 
Legend2TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 12,253
Received 1,721 Likes on 1,126 Posts
^ McLaren had a plan but it was only thought out halfway, they didn't have enough Indycar experience on the racing performance side to carefully and selectively adjust the chassis and aero settings.
Heading it up with a F1 engineer veteran from McLaren didn't help much.
Legend2TL is offline  
Old 05-20-2019, 08:53 AM
  #225  
F-C
Senior Moderator
 
F-C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 12,419
Received 303 Likes on 236 Posts
If you only run one race, you'd better be super well prepared. Seemed like they didn't know they were in deep trouble until the end. I don't know if there are testing restrictions, but they should have run extensive testing at other tracks prior to Indy. If they didn't have that blow-up with Honda, they could have partnered with Andretti again and avoided this mess.
F-C is online now  
Old 05-20-2019, 09:25 AM
  #226  
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
 
CCColtsicehockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 33
Posts: 41,379
Received 2,596 Likes on 1,862 Posts
Yeah, this is super embarrassing for McLaren.
CCColtsicehockey is offline  
Old 05-20-2019, 04:08 PM
  #227  
~HondaF1~
 
R J Poseidon 6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Central Florida, USA
Posts: 1,155
Received 54 Likes on 44 Posts
I don't care for oval much (I did, in the 80s) but here's an update:

https://autoweek.com/article/indy-50...-indy-500-miss

"McLaren has parted ways with the individual hired to spearhead its NTT IndyCar Series program. The dismissal of Bob Fernley was first confirmed by the Associated Press and then the BBC less than 24 hours after the team failed to get Fernando Alonso into the Indianapolis 500.

Alonso was driving a No. 66 Chevrolet fielded by McLaren, which hired Fernley to lay the foundation for a possible full-time effort in the IndyCar Series.

With their elimination during Sunday’s Last Row Shootout, the team’s future in the series remains a question.


The BBC reported than a McLaren spokesman stated that Fernley "was no longer with McLaren." Technically, Fernley’s contract only ran through this coming Sunday’s race.

Fernley, who previously headed up Force India as the deputy team principal, joined McLaren in November, around the same time the organization started laying the groundworks for its Indianapolis 500 bid."
R J Poseidon 6 is online now  
Old 05-20-2019, 04:27 PM
  #228  
F-C
Senior Moderator
 
F-C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 12,419
Received 303 Likes on 236 Posts
https://www.apnews.com/a8653967a9714ac7a9a3ba576f712fff



Some "highlights":
  • Forgot to purchase steering wheel, losing practice time
  • Painted the car in the wrong color, losing practice time
  • Mixed up metric and imperial units, losing practice time
  • Messed up the gear ratio on the final qualifying run

Amazing incompetence. I'll give Zak Brown at least some credit for being so honest.
F-C is online now  
Old 05-22-2019, 11:21 AM
  #229  
Alright, alright, alright
Thread Starter
 
Legend2TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 12,253
Received 1,721 Likes on 1,126 Posts
^ , yeah that was a trainwreck
Legend2TL is offline  
Old 05-26-2019, 10:00 PM
  #230  
Lucky Enzo!
 
kurtatx's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 7,095
Received 1,243 Likes on 870 Posts
Alexander Rossi is a beast. BRING HIM TO F1
kurtatx is offline  
Old 05-26-2019, 10:11 PM
  #231  
F-C
Senior Moderator
 
F-C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 12,419
Received 303 Likes on 236 Posts
Great race by Rossi. Would probably have won if not for that last yellow.

Definitely should get a shot at F1, but will never happen.
F-C is online now  
Old 05-26-2019, 10:20 PM
  #232  
Lucky Enzo!
 
kurtatx's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 7,095
Received 1,243 Likes on 870 Posts
Originally Posted by F-C View Post
Great race by Rossi. Would probably have won if not for that last yellow.

Definitely should get a shot at F1, but will never happen.
That's for sure.

I could see a team like Haas taking a shot, but Rossi isn't dumb. He has said in the past he would only take a call from the big factory teams.
kurtatx is offline  
Old 05-27-2019, 07:43 AM
  #233  
Registered Member
 
nanxun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: DMV
Posts: 7,501
Received 1,898 Likes on 1,233 Posts
He (Alexander Rossi) was already given a shot at F1 earlier in his career (2012-2016).

He's on record as having completed five (5) F1 Grand Prix, all in the 2015 season.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexan...12%E2%80%9316)
nanxun is online now  
The following users liked this post:
00TL-P3.2 (05-28-2019)
Old 05-27-2019, 07:41 PM
  #234  
F-C
Senior Moderator
 
F-C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 12,419
Received 303 Likes on 236 Posts
Originally Posted by nanxun View Post
He (Alexander Rossi) was already given a shot at F1 earlier in his career (2012-2016).

He's on record as having completed five (5) F1 Grand Prix, all in the 2015 season.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexan...12%E2%80%9316)
It's debatable that driving for Marussia counted as an F1 ride.
F-C is online now  
The following users liked this post:
Chief F1 Fan (06-06-2019)
Old 06-04-2019, 08:13 AM
  #235  
Alright, alright, alright
Thread Starter
 
Legend2TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 12,253
Received 1,721 Likes on 1,126 Posts
Alonso rules out contesting full 2020 IndyCar season

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/alonso-...085914918.html .

. it'd be cool to see Alonso run a full Indy season. It was a exciting 1993 watching Mansell win the CART championship in his rookie year, right after winning the 1992 F1 championship.
92-93 were Mansell's best years.
Legend2TL is offline  
Old 06-06-2019, 07:58 AM
  #236  
Senior Moderator
 
Chief F1 Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Western New York
Age: 59
Posts: 19,162
Received 2,792 Likes on 1,539 Posts
He needs to return to F1
Chief F1 Fan is online now  
Old 06-06-2019, 09:08 AM
  #237  
~HondaF1~
 
R J Poseidon 6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Central Florida, USA
Posts: 1,155
Received 54 Likes on 44 Posts
Yes!!!

Even though I doubt any team has the balls....

I'm okay with him not in Indy, could care less for ovals.
They're dangerous AF and I'd hate to lose Alonso to a stupid oval race.
R J Poseidon 6 is online now  
Old 06-06-2019, 10:27 AM
  #238  
Alright, alright, alright
Thread Starter
 
Legend2TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 12,253
Received 1,721 Likes on 1,126 Posts
I seriously doubt MB, RB, or Ferrari are interested in Alonso for 2020.

One thing that I can't find any more online is the F1 article that MB first approached Alonso for 2013.
Supposedly Alonso was in Ferrari contract extension at the time and considered both offers.
He decided to stay with Ferrari then MB and Lauda approached Hamilton next.
Legend2TL is offline  
Old 06-06-2019, 11:09 AM
  #239  
~HondaF1~
 
R J Poseidon 6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Central Florida, USA
Posts: 1,155
Received 54 Likes on 44 Posts
Exactly - that's the problem. They all consider him to be a high risk even if he could bring them the championship.

It just sucks, he won't consider it unless it's where he's not wanted - a top team.

We ALL lose.
R J Poseidon 6 is online now  
Old 06-06-2019, 11:21 AM
  #240  
Senior Moderator
 
Chief F1 Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Western New York
Age: 59
Posts: 19,162
Received 2,792 Likes on 1,539 Posts
McLaren would take him back in a heartbeat I'd bet; Renault probably wouldn't mind having his vast knowledge in car set-up to help get their team moving in the right direction.
Chief F1 Fan is online now  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: IndyCar: News and Discussion Thread


Contact Us - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.