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Old 02-20-2018, 02:19 PM
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Motorsports: History and Legacy Discussion Thread

Couldn't figure out where to post this, so startin' a new thread for all things related to historic F1 racing. Enjoy.

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^ good idea for a thread
There's so many good F1 pics on Pintrest

Favorite pic of Gilles and his 312T4 at Monaco 1979

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Renault RS01, c. 1977

First F1 car to employ turbo-charging.




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From Honda's halcyon days... the FW11, c. 1986.





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Cockpits and their evolution MP4/2 and MP4/6



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Very quaint!
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1990 Ferrari 641


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1990 Ferrari 641


So beautiful, unlike the monstrosities we've had for the last few years.
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So beautiful, unlike the monstrosities we've had for the last few years.
totally agree, the F1 cars from the mid 80's to mid 90's were some of the most beautiful
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I'll have to scan in some of my old F1 pics taken at various tracks.
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/senna-toleman-up-for-auction-in-may-1014846/

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^ I was trying to get three other friend's to invest $100k each to buy that car in ~2000.
It was in the UK, and for sale at $400k, I called and emailed the owners a few times and was trying to figure how to get it to the states with all the red tape and paperwork.
I was a amateur and new to trying to buy a used F1 car, and only my brother offered up so it didn't work out.
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Wow. According to the story, it sold at auction for 1 million pounds sterling in 2015.

You guys could've made a cool profit of US$1 million over 15 years! Wonder what it will go for this time round?
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
I'll have to scan in some of my old F1 pics taken at various tracks.
Please do! That'd be very cool to see.
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I loved this pass, Mika the big kahuna
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Tyrrell 001 launch 1970, amazing how few people were on a F1 team in that period.

Red shirt : Derek Gardner designer/engineer
White driving suit : Jackie Stewart driver
Black overalls : Ken Tyrrell team owner/manager
Seven mechanics in blue overalls.

Man, it was so simple back then.

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Originally Posted by Legend2TL

Tyrrell 001 launch 1970, amazing how few people were on a F1 team in that period.

Red shirt : Derek Gardner designer/engineer
White driving suit : Jackie Stewart driver
Black overalls : Ken Tyrrell team owner/manager
Seven mechanics in blue overalls.

Man, it was so simple back then.

Cars also seemed much more interesting then today's.
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Originally Posted by F-C
Cars also seemed much more interesting then today's.
And resourceful as well, Derek Garner designed/engineered the 001 at his UK home, since the wood shed that Ken Tyrrell used for his F1 team was poorly heated.
Here's Gardner with the 001 model built out of plywood at the "wood shed".



Here's the old Tyrrell "wood shed" where the cars were fabricated and rebuilt after races.



Enzo Ferrari was furious that these English teams (Tyrrell, Lotus, McLaren, Williams) were able to beat his cars with a fraction of the resources and budgets Ferrari had including his own Fiorano track.

By the late 70's F1 was getting more serious as here's Frank Williams and Patrick Head in their first Williams facility in Grove which was a old carpet factory. It was more space than they needed but Williams got a great deal on it.



Yeah the 70's period was very unique and such a cultural impact to the sport as there was still a seat of pants approach to everything.

Tyrrell changed with the times, but he was unable to match the success of the early/mid 70's.
I saw him in the garages at the Detroit Grand Prix a few times, tall guy with a big toothy smile.
Although no longer a front running team, you could tell from his enthusiasm debriefing his drivers (Alberetto) that he enjoyed being part of the circus.

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Just finished watching the 2017 BBC documentary Williams .... Highly recommended if you haven't already seen it.

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^ yeah watched it. Excellent documentary.

FWIW, the 6 wheel Tyrrell P34 original schematic. Wheelbase 'About 95" '

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Originally Posted by nanxun
Wow. According to the story, it sold at auction for 1 million pounds sterling in 2015.

You guys could've made a cool profit of US$1 million over 15 years! Wonder what it will go for this time round?
Yeah would have been a good investment, I remind the two holdouts of it every few years when I see them.
This time, I'm guessing it will go for close to 1.5m UK pounds.
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USGP warm-up: Mario Andretti


40 years ago since Mario was F1 champion.
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RRDC Evening with Mario Andretti - Full Interview


Great interview of Mario by Bobby Rahal

Go to 25:00 and hear the pretty funny story on how Mario driving a brand new Hertz rental car into the beach in Daytona.
Go to 7:00 to see how Mario and Colin Chapman connected.

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As we approach the 50th anniversary of Jimmy Clark's death, David Malsher examines what might have been for the brilliant Scot and what should have been for Chris Amon in 1968. But first, a few more hypotheses from F1 and IndyCar history…



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Detroit GP Scans

In The Garage: Detroit GP Scans

Found these blog with some old pics from 1983-84 Detroit Grand Prix.
The 83 race was important as the last Ford Cosworth win, and the top three finishers were all Cosworth.
And last win for Tyrrell racing,
Piquet in the Mickey Mouse t-shirt is amusing

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Car Collections: F1 Champion Jody Scheckter

Car Collections: F1 Champion Jody Scheckter - Autoweb


Taking a break at work today and found this cool article on 1979 F1 champ Jody Schecker's F1 car collection.
He kept many of the F1 cars he drove, pretty amazing collection.
Also quite a entrepreneur he started two successful companies after he retired from racing.
Another random trivia is he was close to his Ferrari teammate Gilles Villeneuve.
So much so after Gilles death Jody helped his widow Joanna with the family's financial investments which helped out the Villeneuve family alot.




Good interview with Jody
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McLaren MP4/4: The launch of a legend

McLaren MP4/4 - The launch of a legend

30 years ago, the McLaren MP4/4 ruled the 1988 season winning 15 of 16 races.
Interesting backstory of it's first and only limited test outing at Imola in preseason testing, before the first race.

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Since I posted Jody Scheckter recently, something you rarely if ever see these days is WAG's timing their husband's and b/f's laps.
Here's Jody's 1st wife Pamela timing him at Tyrrell sometime in the mid-70's. Notice the hearing protection as well.

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Originally Posted by Legend2TL
In The Garage: Detroit GP Scans

Found these blog with some old pics from 1983-84 Detroit Grand Prix.
The 83 race was important as the last Ford Cosworth win, and the top three finishers were all Cosworth.
And last win for Tyrrell racing,
Piquet in the Mickey Mouse t-shirt is amusing
Ford Cosworth won plenty of races after that, including Schumacher's world champion Benetton. You probably mean the last won for the DFV engine.
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Ford Cosworth won plenty of races after that, including Schumacher's world champion Benetton. You probably mean the last won for the DFV engine.
Correct, the Ford/Cosworth DFV
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Drive Like Schumacher In His Actual Benetton-Ford B192

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