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Old Sep 23, 2024 | 01:07 PM
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Agreed, definitely the strongest pair, with MB & Fer not too overly far behind.
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Old Sep 26, 2024 | 12:50 PM
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https://www.grandprix.com/news/liam-...ricciardo.html

Lawson replaces Ricciardo at RB.

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Old Sep 26, 2024 | 02:15 PM
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Bummer. But, saw another report that DR could replace Perez after Mexico
Could give him a shot in a competitive car & see if he's still got it & the RB is holding him back. RBR needs some good double points finishes to claw back the potential of the WCC.
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Old Sep 26, 2024 | 09:46 PM
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That makes no sense. Not good enough for Racing Bulls, but good enough for Red Bull?
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Old Sep 27, 2024 | 08:36 AM
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Just a rumor I read, 3rd hand from another forum with no citation for where they got it.
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Old Sep 27, 2024 | 09:59 PM
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What Michael Andretti Stepping Down Could Mean for F1 Bid

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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 11:47 AM
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https://racer.com/2024/09/30/renault...oject-in-2026/

Renault to end its F1 engine program in Viry. Sad day for F1.
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 11:50 AM
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Rumors from before are that Alpine will become an MB customer team, I guess taking the AMR slot when they move to Honda?
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 02:00 PM
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Viry shop will now concentrate on Alpine Hypercar and other stuff.

Renault F1 engines has been an almost constant participant since I first started watching back in 1990.
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Old Oct 2, 2024 | 02:04 PM
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https://www.lvmh.com/news-lvmh/formu...al-partnership

In sponsorship news, LVMH signs 10 year agreement with F1. Mentioned in the press release is LV, Moet Hennessy, and TAG Heuer.
My guess is that trophies will now be cased in LV trunks. F1 medal awards by Chaumet. Podium bubbles by Moet. And of course TAG Heuer timing.
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Old Oct 11, 2024 | 08:19 AM
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Toyota are returning to Formula 1 for the first time since 2009 after signing a technical partnership with the Haas F1 Team that begins immediately.

The Japanese manufacturer spent eight seasons in Formula 1 as a works team and engine supplier, scoring 13 podiums and achieving a best finish of fourth in the constructors’ championship.

As part of the multi-year agreement, Haas and Toyota – through their motorsport and R&D division Toyota Gazoo Racing (TGR) – will “share expertise and knowledge, as well as resources”.

The deal will run alongside their arrangement with Ferrari, whom Haas have worked with since they entered the sport in 2016.

GR will provide design, technical and manufacturing services to Haas, while Haas will offer technical expertise and commercial benefits in return.

The aim is for Haas to improve their development and competitive standing within the sport with Toyota developing their own knowledge and skills through F1.

“I’m hugely excited that MoneyGram Haas F1 Team and Toyota Gazoo Racing have come together to enter into this technical partnership,” said Haas boss Ayao Komatsu.

“To have a world leader in the automotive sector support and work alongside our organization, while seeking to develop and accelerate their own technical and engineering expertise – it’s simply a partnership with obvious benefits on both sides.

“The ability to tap into the resources and knowledge base available at Toyota Gazoo Racing, while benefiting from their technical and manufacturing processes, will be instrumental in our own development and our clear desire to further increase our competitiveness in Formula 1.

“In return we offer a platform for Toyota Gazoo Racing to fully utilize and subsequently advance their in-house engineering capabilities.

“I’m naturally pleased that we’ve had the support of the likes of Formula 1 and our long-term partner, Scuderia Ferrari – who we announced our further continuation with earlier in the season, in the formation of this new technical partnership – designed to achieve continued success in our Formula 1 endeavours.

“Together with Gene Haas, I’d specifically like to thank Stefano Domenicali (CEO – Formula 1) and Fred Vasseur (Team Principal – Scuderia Ferrari) on that front, and with Toyota I’d like to thank Akio Toyoda (Chairman – Toyota Motor Corporation), Tomoya Takahashi (President – Gazoo Racing Company) and Masaya Kaji (Project Manager – Gazoo Racing Company).

“Everyone at MoneyGram Haas F1 Team is looking forward to the collaborative results of this new relationship, we can’t wait to get started and fulfil our combined ambitions.”

President of Gazoo Racing Company Tomoya Takahashi added: “We are pleased to announce that MoneyGram Haas F1 Team and Toyota Gazoo Racing have concluded a basic agreement to enter a technical partnership such as Haas vehicle development.

“We would like to express our gratitude to Mr. Gene Haas, Mr. Ayao Komatsu, Mr. Stefano Domenicali (CEO – Formula 1), Mr. Fred Vasseur (Team Principal – Scuderia Ferrari), and all our existing partners of the team for their exceptional cooperation and understanding in this collaboration.

“By competing alongside MoneyGram Haas F1 Team at the pinnacle of motorsports, we aim to cultivate drivers, engineers, and mechanics while strengthening the capabilities of MoneyGram Haas F1 Team and Toyota Gazoo Racing, and we desire to contribute to motorsports and the automotive industry.”

The deal was announced at Toyota-owned Fuji International Speedway on Friday and will see Toyota Gazoo Racing branding visible on Nico Hulkenberg and Kevin Magnussen’s Haas cars starting from next weekend’s United States Grand Prix in Austin.

Haas are currently seventh in the constructors’ championship, just three points adrift of RB in the fight for P6.
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Old Oct 11, 2024 | 09:54 AM
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Is Toyota dipping their toes in for a possible comeback?
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Old Oct 18, 2024 | 10:33 AM
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Point for fastest lap removed for 2025. I've never liked this extra point, so not sad to see it go.
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Old Oct 18, 2024 | 01:59 PM
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^ +1 never liked the fastest lap point. Especially seeing how some like Daniel used it to take the fastest lap point away from Norris/McLaren in the last race.
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Old Oct 18, 2024 | 02:41 PM
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Agreed, won't miss it. Maybe if it were open to all 20, where someone >10th didn't just steal it off everyone.
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Old Oct 18, 2024 | 04:02 PM
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Yeah, I thought it was gimmicky and unnecessary.

Just like Sprint weekends, much prefer traditional weekends. Every weekend.
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Old Oct 18, 2024 | 05:03 PM
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Though, I am enjoying seeing 100% pace, in person, for SQ
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 07:44 AM
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Lando was robbed of 3rd place, Max drove him off the turn 1. The officiating Saturday and Sunday was all over the place at times.
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 03:44 PM
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 07:39 AM
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The Secrets Behind Formula 1 Brakes (F1 Factory Tour)

Pretty unreal the ~400lb of braking force the driver has to exert on the brake pedal of a current F1 car

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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 08:37 AM
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VinWiki did an episode a few years ago with a guy that got to drive an older [2012] Renault [Lotus] in France
He said the brakes were the most astonishing part of the car. And that the pit mechanic had him press the brake & he was shocked at how much effort it took to get 75% brake pressure.

Found it:
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 09:47 AM
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^ I didn't know that with the modern hybrid powerunits F1 cars use a single tandem (dual circuit) single master cylinder.
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One points rule from IndyCar that I would like to see in F1, is 2 points for most laps led. A small prize for leading the most led is good for those who suffered misfortune due to mechanical failure or accident.
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Originally Posted by Legend2TL
One points rule from IndyCar that I would like to see in F1, is 2 points for most laps led. A small prize for leading the most led is good for those who suffered misfortune due to mechanical failure or accident.
These days I don't like any sort of extra points. For the majority of races, the person who leads the most laps wins the race. So you are basically giving more points to whoever is already dominating.

IndyCar is different, especially on the ovals, where there could be many leaders during a race. So an extra point would be makes more sense.
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Maybe if the FL point could be won by any driver, regardless of position. But otherwise, I agree. The points structure as is seems to work
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Old Oct 25, 2024 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Maybe if the FL point could be won by any driver, regardless of position. But otherwise, I agree. The points structure as is seems to work
I think the issue with that would be that every driver below 10th would go for the FL. Sauber has no points at all this year, so they could setup their car to be qualifying trim every race just to get the FL point, even if they start last.
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The only thing I would change would be condensing the point spread. Instead of a 7 point gap between first and second, make it 4 or 5.
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Old Oct 26, 2024 | 11:33 AM
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I think the issue with that would be that every driver below 10th would go for the FL. Sauber has no points at all this year, so they could setup their car to be qualifying trim every race just to get the FL point, even if they start last.
Yeah except one big problem: Sauber has to be in one of the top ten positions before it gets to go for fast lap.
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Old Oct 26, 2024 | 09:45 PM
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Yeah except one big problem: Sauber has to be in one of the top ten positions before it gets to go for fast lap.
I was replying to 00TL who suggested that FL point can be given to any car regardless of finishing position.
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Old Oct 28, 2024 | 12:25 PM
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Fun fact; 2024 and 1981 are the only two F1 seasons where 6 drivers have multiple wins in a season. If Russell can get another win it'll be 7 which will be a record.
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They also mentioned it's the first season since 1983[?] where the WDC champion's team finished 3rd. Assuming Max wins the WDC & RBR finishes the WCC in 3rd.
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Old Oct 28, 2024 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
They also mentioned it's the first season since 1983[?] where the WDC champion's team finished 3rd. Assuming Max wins the WDC & RBR finishes the WCC in 3rd.
What makes that even worst is Brabham in 1983 had the majority of the team's focus was on their #1 driver Nelson Piquet (ironically Max's g/f's father). The #2 Riccardo Patrese had less than a 1/4 of the points of Nelson, but that was mostly due to his car mechanically failing. In 2024, RBR has relatively equal cars and their interest in getting both WDC and WCC are both important.

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On Instagram there was a short video of Sainz's post race victory dinner with about a dozen family and friends, seated next to Carlos was Lando.
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Originally Posted by Legend2TL
What makes that even worst is Brabham in 1983 had the majority of the team's focus was on their #1 driver Nelson Piquet (ironically Max's g/f's father). The #2 Riccardo Patrese had less than a 1/4 of the points of Nelson, but that was mostly due to his car mechanically failing. In 2024, RBR has relatively equal cars and their interest in getting both WDC and WCC are both important.
So, similar to Max & Checo, pointswise
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On Instagram there was a short video of Sainz's post race victory dinner with about a dozen family and friends, seated next to Carlos was Lando.

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Horner on Perez's Mexico race:
“Checo again has had a horrible weekend,” Horner said. “Nothing has gone right for him this weekend. He knows Formula 1 is a results-based business and inevitably when you are not delivering, the spotlight is firmly on you.

“When anyone is underperforming, of course there is always going to be scrutiny on that. As a team we need to have both cars scoring points. That is the nature of Formula 1.


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Question is, who to put in?
Yuki & Liam don't seem ready for the RBR seat. Saw comments [can't remember if it was Sky or a YT commentary] that they're both a bit hot-headed for the big boy seat.
Brief DR3 return?
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 02:16 PM
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Max being Max ....

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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Question is, who to put in?
Yuki & Liam don't seem ready for the RBR seat. Saw comments [can't remember if it was Sky or a YT commentary] that they're both a bit hot-headed for the big boy seat.
Brief DR3 return?
Why? Tsunoda soundly beat Ricciardo. I'm still advocating for Albon to go back to Red Bull. :rorfl:
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2025 Haas driver Ollie Bearman will replace Kevin Magnussen at the team for the first day of the Sao Paulo Grand Prix weekend, after Magnussen reported feeling unwell.

With the Sprint format in play in Brazil this weekend, teams are afforded just one hour of practice before competitive action begins with Friday afternoon’s Sprint Qualifying session.

But Magnussen will be forced to miss these sessions, after reporting feeling sick – with the team calling on reserve Bearman to drive in his place, before taking a view on Magnussen’s ability to compete for the rest of the weekend.

Bearman has already raced for Haas once this season, competing for the team at the Azerbaijan Grand Prix as Magnussen served a one-race ban for exceeding 12 penalty points within a 12-month period.

Bearman has also raced once for Ferrari this year, replacing an ill Carlos Sainz in Saudi Arabia, while he appeared for the Scuderia in Free Practice 1 at the Mexico City Grand Prix last weekend, where he was caught up in a dramatic on-track collision with the Williams of Alex Albon.

Bearman will compete full-time for Haas in 2025, when he’s partnered with Esteban Ocon at the team – with Nico Hulkenberg departing for Sauber, while it appears that Magnussen’s time in the sport is reaching an end.

Meanwhile, Fernando Alonso was forced to miss his Thursday media duties for a second consecutive week in Sao Paulo, after he received treatment in Europe for an intestinal infection.
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Max Verstappen is set to face a five-place grid drop at the upcoming Sao Paulo Grand Prix after Red Bull elected to change his power unit for the sixth time this season.

After the Dutchman struggled for pace last time out in Mexico, he will be hoping to take a step forward and close the gap to rivals Ferrari and McLaren with a new internal combustion engine (ICE) this weekend.

With just four rounds remaining, the Brazilian circuit could offer the best overtaking opportunities to limit the damage brought about by the grid penalty, which will only affect the Grand Prix as opposed to the Sprint.

Each season, drivers are permitted to use four internal combustion engines – Verstappen exceeded this allocation previously in Belgium, where he served a 10-place grid penalty. As this is his second infringement, the consequence is a five-place drop.

A document published by the FIA also confirmed that the reigning world champion will use a new exhaust system, but will not incur a penalty for this as he is still within the allocation of eight.

The FIA stated: "The internal combustion engine used by Max Verstappen will be the sixth (6th) of the four (4) new internal combustion engines allowed for the 2024 Championship season and this is not in conformity with Article 28.2 of the 2024 Formula One Sporting Regulations."

In addition, his Red Bull team mate Sergio Perez is racing with a new chassis this weekend as they hope to reclaim P2 in the constructors' standings – they are currently 25 points behind Ferrari.

Verstappen will have a chance to extend his record of winning every Sprint in 2024 before the penalty is enforced in the Grand Prix, which could help him extend his lead over Lando Norris in the drivers' championship.

Getting on top of their inconsistent pace will be a priority for Red Bull this weekend, especially with McLaren bringing further upgrades to their rear wing as they target their first constructors' title since 1998.
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