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Old 07-26-2024, 09:37 AM
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Barely halfway through the season. Fair odds there could be more penalties for Max by the end of the season.
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How many senior leaders have Alpine cycled through over the last few years? It's ridiculous. I wonder how long Briatore will last.
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exactly what I thought as I watched Famin being interviewed yesterday regarding his departure from the post.
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Absolutely brilliant race strategy (early 1 stop strategy to hards) and tire management by Russell, lasting 34 laps of Spa on hards holding off Hamilton was quite a testament to his race craft.

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Good race from George. Dirty air had a big impact today though - Hamilton was struggling within a second, MCL couldn't close the gap, same for RB. But good driving from George to make the hards last that long.
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noooooo, Russell's car is 1.5kg underweight, no extra lap to pick up marbles off the racing line and one stop strategy with long 2nd stint may have caused it.

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the team made an error with fuel removal it sounds like
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Unbelievable...
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Wolff showed almost no emotion when Russel won the race. Almost as if he knew something...
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Disqualified George Russell data emerges with simple Hamilton question answered

https://www.planetf1.com/features/di...stion-answered

Pretty good data analysis why Russell and not Hamilton did the 1-stop strategy. Didn't realize Alonso also did a 1-stop.
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Disqualified George Russell joins very exclusive club after deleted Belgian GP win

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If Sauber could've made the 1 stop work, they would've been 9th [after the GR DQ], assuming his tires wouldn't have gone off too much at the end.
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The Schumacher DQ in 94 was bogus! I was so mad at the time, and I'm still mad.
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The Schumacher DQ in 94 was bogus! I was so mad at the time, and I'm still mad.
LOL, it's been 30 years
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https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...6D7H2akmtW9uXe

Carlos Sainz has committed his future to Williams with the Spaniard agreeing a multi-year deal to race alongside Alex Albon.
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Good for Sainz to get a drive, but that's a pretty big seat swap, though Albon has been able to get some decent performance out of the car.
Wonder if this is to Sargent, then

I believe that leaves 4 open seats:
Mercedes: Hamilton
Alpine: Ocon
Sauber: Zhou/Bottas
RB: Ricciardo

And that's if there isn't an escape clause in Perez's renewed deal, which could really spice up the remainder of silly season, especially with the summer break.

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There's been alot of technical hiring at Williams lately, Vowles has hired 26 engineers from MB, RBR, Ferrari,... mostly in aero. I have a gut feeling 2026 could see the resurgence of Williams, Vowles has been overhauling alot of the design/development/operations process there. Could be a good place for Sainz and Albon to be in 26.
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I see Williams on an upward trajectory, especially with Sainz and Albon.

And yes, it hasn't exactly been a secret that Sargent is done after this season.
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There was also a meeting between DR, Mekkies, and Horner after yesterdays race in which DR walked away with a big smile. Lots of people are speculating Perez is out after the break.
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^ If so, wonder if it's a seat swap ala Kvyat, or if it's Perez out, RB driver promotion, Lawson in at RB.
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LOL, it's been 30 years
Still can't get over it. Add that to the under handed shenanigans that the British pulled off in Silverstone. Just thinking about it makes my blood boil.
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I want to know the details of the Sainz contract and if there are escape clauses.
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Still can't get over it. Add that to the under handed shenanigans that the British pulled off in Silverstone. Just thinking about it makes my blood boil.
Don't abide by the rules and black flags lose 2nd place, pretty simple. However I don't agree with the subsequent two race ban for ignoring the black flags, that was Bernie trying to inject excitement into the miserable 1994 season. Had Schumacher just gone in for the black flag when he was shown it and it woulda been a 5 sec. stop/go and nothing after that. Pretty good synopsis of the violation and penalty


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San Marino 1985: The GP won by a driver who didn't lead a lap

FWIW, later on John Barnard determined the amount of wear on the carbon brake pads and discs due to the heavy braking of the circuit.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/sa...82810/4982810/
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Originally Posted by Legend2TL
Don't abide by the rules and black flags lose 2nd place, pretty simple. However I don't agree with the subsequent two race ban for ignoring the black flags, that was Bernie trying to inject excitement into the miserable 1994 season. Had Schumacher just gone in for the black flag when he was shown it and it woulda been a 5 sec. stop/go and nothing after that. Pretty good synopsis of the violation and penalty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DoD...=AidanMillward

People pass each other on the formation lap all the time. I can guarantee that it was only called on Schumacher because of the corrupt stewards in Silverstone. This whole season was stacked against Benetton, but that only made the title win more special at the end.
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People pass each other on the formation lap all the time. I can guarantee that it was only called on Schumacher because of the corrupt stewards in Silverstone. This whole season was stacked against Benetton, but that only made the title win more special at the end.
The rules are fairly clear, only if the other driver is slow but they should line up as quickly as possible. Hill was not slow, nor was Berger, Alesi, Häkkinen and Barrichello behind him. Schumacher only got behind Hill only after driving ahead for a large part of the circuit, then passed Hill again on the first formation lap. Second formation lap, Schumacher did it again, seemed like a classic phycological mind games with Hill. It's all on video so Schumacher's breaking the rules are quite evident.

Quite stupid of Benetton to then ignore the black flag despite the calls to the pits, in all it was a silly move by Schumacher and Benetton which cost them dearly in terms of the risk/reward ratio, the season shoulda been a cake-walk with the driver/car combination.

I think Schumacher deserved the 1994 championship, but he was not a sportsman by driving into Hill in Adelaide. Had Hill been able to finish the race ahead of Schumacher's points, he would not have deserved the WDC. Schumacher has a long list of unsportsmanlike driving, brilliant driver and leader but there's also a dark side to him. Even at MB when Rosberg was outdriving him, Schumacher would still try silly mind games using the restroom before the start of the race. Rosberg talks about that in one of his video's

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It was one bad call after another by people to conspire against Schumacher and Benetton. The British fans and media and the Senna fans were pulling for Hill. The F1 establishment were also against the upstart Benetton team. You can sense that Schumacher felt like everyone was against him. That resentment bubbled to the top at the final race. I won't lie, I was jumping up and down when Hill's car pulled into the pits for a DNF. Although it wasn't sporting, it felt like deserved justice.
I equate it like a football match, where the ref makes a horrendous call in one half, but then makes up for it in the second half with a bad call on the other team to equal it.
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Sergio Perez to remain with Red Bull after crunch F1 talks

Perez keeps RBR drive on til end of 2024

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/s...alks/10640392/
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Ridiculous! If RB loses the constructors title, it's on Perez and Horner.
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Strange factoid from Belgium Grand Prix, the top 10 drivers all won a F1 race before. According to a Instagram F1_statistics channel, that has never happened before. Had Russell not been disqualified, it woulda been 11.

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Jonathan Wheatley will leave his role as Red Bull’s Sporting Director to become Team Principal of the Audi F1 Team.

Wheatley has become a significant senior figure during nearly two decades with the organisation and played a key role in winning 13 World Championships.

“It has been a long and successful relationship with Jonathan, over 18 years,” said Red Bull boss Christian Horner.

“His contribution to six World Constructors’ Titles and seven World Drivers’ Championship, first as Team Manager and latterly Sporting Director will forever be a marker in our Team history.”

Red Bull say Wheatley will remain in his position until the end of the 2024 season, before entering a period of gardening leave in 2025.

The team added: “Everyone at Oracle Red Bull Racing and Red Bull Technology wish him all the best in his new role and would like to place our thanks to Jonathan.

“Red Bull Racing have tremendous strength and depth and this provides opportunity to elevate others within the Team. We will announce a new Team structure in the coming weeks.”

Audi also later confirmed the appointment with Gernot Dollner, CEO of AUDI AG, saying: "I am delighted that we have been able to gain Jonathan Wheatley as Team Principal for our future Formula 1 team.

"Jonathan has played a major part in many Formula 1 race victories and World Championship titles in his Formula 1 career so far, and has extensive experience in the paddock. He is a very valuable addition to our team."

The news comes just over a week after it was announced Audi CEO Andreas Seidl and Audi executive Oliver Hoffman were leaving the project with ex-Ferrari Team Principal Mattia Binotto arriving to head it up.

Binotto’s official title is Chief Operating Officer and Chief Technical Officer with Audi saying he and Wheatley will together head the new management team at Sauber Motorsport AG. In their new positions, both will report directly to Dollner.

Wheatley said: “I am extremely proud to have been a part of the Red Bull Racing journey over the last 18 years and will leave with many fond memories. However, the opportunity to play an active part in Audi’s entry into Formula 1 as head of a factory team is a uniquely exciting prospect, and I am looking forward to the challenge.

"Also I am glad to be working together with Mattia, whom I have known for many years and who is the right person to collaborate with in this exciting project."

Binotto said: “I have known Jonathan for many years and rate him highly as an experienced and committed motorsport expert. 2026 is not a long time away now, and I’m looking forward to setting up the new racing team for Audi along with Jonathan and leading it to success."

Dollner added: "With the appointment of Jonathan and Mattia we have taken a decisive step towards our entry into Formula 1.

"I am convinced that with the two of them, we have been able to combine an extremely high level of competence for Audi. Their experience and their ability will help us to get a foothold quickly in the tough competitive world of Formula 1."

Wheatley is the second major player to this year announce their departure from Red Bull, with design guru Adrian Newey set to leave after almost 20 years with the team.
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