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Old Mar 2, 2023 | 09:04 AM
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In an effort to make F1 more open to the media and fans, the FIA introduced new procedures last year to increase the transparency of the latest developments brought to each race.

As part of revised sporting regulations, teams now have to notify the FIA in advance of each grand prix weekend about any new "major aerodynamic and bodywork components and assemblies" that are intended to be run.

But as well as having to explain in writing what they have done, the regulations also force teams to display these parts prior to the start of first free practice for what has become known as a 'show and tell' session.

During a designated window ahead of FP1 on Friday, teams are supposed to make their cars available outside the designated garage area, where the media can get up close to see the new parts.

However, there were times during 2022 when teams pulled off a sly trick in trying to hold back showing off too much of their designs.

If the parts were fitted only to one car for first practice, then occasionally some squads would keep that car in the garage where items could not be spotted, and roll out the more standard version for public display.

Such a practice went against the intention of the regulations in getting the latest tech more on show, and the FIA has duly responded for the 2023 season.

In revised regulations published ahead of the first race in Bahrain, the FIA has made it clear that teams must display the latest parts on the car that is rolled out of the garage.

The new rules state: "If only one car will carry the major aerodynamic and bodywork components and assemblies that have not been run at a previous Competition or TCC [testing of current cars] and are intended to be run at the Competition, this car must be the one displayed to media."

As well as the teams having to explain the developments on their cars, the FIA has also moved to ensure more visibility in terms of engine progress.

The sporting regulations now demand that each car manufacturer must hold a briefing once per year to talk about their engine.

"Each registered Power Unit Manufacturer must be available at one (1) Competition during the season to give a media presentation for a duration of at least 30 minutes," states the rules.
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Old Mar 2, 2023 | 07:58 PM
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9.5hrs to the first FP1 of 2023!
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 08:40 AM
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 10:31 AM
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Old Mar 6, 2023 | 07:57 AM
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Pretty good opener. At the end of 22, I never would've put Aston to be mixing it with the top 6, especially with both cars.
Kudos to Stroll for putting in a good performance, especially with his injuries.
Gut punch for Ferrari fans. Hope that's a one-off & not another repeating issue like last year.
Good to see Bottas best of the rest & a solid opener for Sargeant.
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Old Mar 6, 2023 | 09:03 AM
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What do you think about Bottas's new look?
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Good for Aston with their Alonso podium, and Stroll only two positions back with a pined wrist should also be congratulated. Typical RBR were trash talking Aston with their 3rd place, claiming it's a copy of their previous car with Dan Fallows (former RBR aero engineer) as the new TD at Aston. Consider that the RBR and AM have different front suspensions (pullrod and pushrod respectively) along with other differences as well. I'm kinda surprised MB kept with their zero pod concept even after last year and lack of ability to reduce the drag. Somehow I'm not surprised by lack of progress at McLaren.
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Looks like Bottas is gearing up for a shift to NASCAR


And I really hope Ferrari can get their shit together.

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Old Mar 6, 2023 | 10:21 AM
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With Merc it was the beard
With Alfa, mullet Bottas.
Glad he had a strong start & hope Alfa can keep the development up. Zhou didn't seem to have the race pace.
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Old Mar 6, 2023 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Glad he had a strong start & hope Alfa can keep the development up. Zhou didn't seem to have the race pace.
I was frustrated by the race coverage. There was very little analysis of what was happening behind the top 6 cars. I had no idea how Gasly went from last to top ten. Hulkenberg was running great, then he dropped behind Magnussen.
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Old Mar 6, 2023 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Looks like Bottas is gearing up for a shift to NASCAR porn


And I really hope Ferrari can get their shit together.
FIFY

on 2nd statement
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Yeah, they need to get it together with coverage.
I forget who it was at the front about to make a move & the camera cuts to a McLaren at the back defending a pass
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This was my first race weekend using F1 TV, and yeah, it's pretty fantastic. There's prerace and postrace coverage, you can jump to whichever car you want to watch, and the quality is great. I used it Chromecast w/ Google TV (the one with the remote). I'm very happy with the cost so far.
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I can understand why Hamilton is so frustrated in that the Aston Martin uses a MB power unit, transmission and rear suspension so to be passed by your teams own components means MB is way behind in it's solution primarily aero. Still seems strange MB decided to evolve the W13 zero side pod concept considering it didn't work out despite some changes throughout the season. Supposedly it's downforce/drag ratio was never good despite the revisions to the floor and some sidepod changes.

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Old Mar 7, 2023 | 09:24 AM
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Granted it was just 1 race, so far, but I'm sure it hurts when a non-works car passes the supplier.
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Old Mar 7, 2023 | 09:27 AM
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What do you think about Bottas's new look?
Looks like a pedo
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Old Mar 7, 2023 | 09:28 AM
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This was my first race weekend using F1 TV, and yeah, it's pretty fantastic. There's prerace and postrace coverage, you can jump to whichever car you want to watch, and the quality is great. I used it Chromecast w/ Google TV (the one with the remote). I'm very happy with the cost so far.
I got it the first year it was available, there were quite a few hiccups then, now they're all seemingly worked out.
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I'll make the jump when there's a native Samsung app & I don't need to slave a 2nd device to the TV to use it.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
I'll make the jump when there's a native Samsung app & I don't need to slave a 2nd device to the TV to use it.
eww you're using the built-in TV apps instead of a Chromecast/AppleTV/Roku? Lost a little respect for you here
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Old Mar 7, 2023 | 10:15 AM
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Happy with the native setup on the Samsung I have. Plus it's cluttered enough behind it with all my networking stuff up there as well.
The only Roku we have is in our guest house on a Samsung DumbTV from 2010
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Love listening to the super biased British press right now. On the Autosport podcast of the race review, the commentators immediately talk for 10 minutes about poor old Mercedes, and how the whole season is now ruined because of the Red Bull dominance in race 1. There was no praise of the Red Bull engineering or the Verstappen drive. I guarantee that if it was reversed and Mercedes was dominating, they would be heaping praise on James Allison's technical brilliance, Hamilton's driving, and the management culture instilled by the wonderful Toto Wolff.

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Old Mar 7, 2023 | 10:44 AM
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I'll make the jump when there's a native Samsung app & I don't need to slave a 2nd device to the TV to use it.
suffer then.
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suffer then.

Yup, not disappointed in the YTTV coverage via ESPN.
If that deal ever falls through, that'll push me to jump sooner.
We'll be adding an outdoor TV when the pool is done, likely another Samsung, and having to add another casting device just doesn't make sense. Just need F1 to add more platforms for the app.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
I'll make the jump when there's a native Samsung app & I don't need to slave a 2nd device to the TV to use it.
Is it an Android TV? If so, you can sideload the app.
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Samsung Series 8, IIRC. From about 2017
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Oh, yeah that won't ever be supported

I was in the same boat with my LG E7, but I got the Chromecast (which actually runs better then the LG OS).
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I may jump on that boat eventually, but have too many other things sucking me dry on $$ right now.
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I may jump on that boat eventually, but have too many other things sucking me dry on $$ right now.
Yeah, I have a kid too.
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3 of those & a big hole to pour my $ into starting tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
3 of those & a big hole to pour my $ into starting tomorrow.
you got a boat?! congrats but also
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https://racer.com/2023/03/09/hamilto...r-car-worries/

Lewis Hamilton says Mercedes didn’t listen to his feedback about what he needed from the 2023 car and has to take responsibility for its lack of performance this season.

Mercedes was nearly a second per lap off the pace of Red Bull in race trim on Sunday in the Bahrain Grand Prix, with Hamilton finishing fifth behind Max Verstappen, Sergio Perez, Fernando Alonso and Carlos Sainz. With Mercedes arguably the fourth-fastest team despite sticking with its zero sidepod car concept, Hamilton says his comments were not taken on board.

“Last year, there were things I told them,” Hamilton told the BBC. “I said the issues that are with the car. I’ve driven so many cars in my life so I know what a car needs, I know what a car doesn’t need. I think it’s really about accountability.

“It’s about owning up and saying, ‘Yeah, you know what? We didn’t listen to you. It’s not where it needs to be and we’ve got to work.’ We’ve got to look into the balance through the corners, look at all the weak points, and just huddle up as a team. That’s what we do.

“We’re still multi world champions, you know? Just haven’t got it right this time. Didn’t get it right last year. But that doesn’t mean we can’t get it right moving forwards.”
This guy is insufferable! Talk about throwing the team under the bus.

When he wins, he's the greatest in the world, when he loses, it's the team's fault.
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I think LH has every right and standing to make comments such as these. He drives the car and knows what it can/cannot do. It is the team's fault, the car is a POS and MBZ should've given up on that messed up zero sidepod design before the last season even finished when it started to design/develp their 2023 challenger. Toto should be calling his designers to task for continuing with a dead end idea.
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After just a single grand prix in 2023, Ferrari appears to be in turmoil.

La Gazzetta dello Sport reports that Charles Leclerc asked for a face-to-face meeting with the Italian company's executive chairman John Elkann after the disappointing Bahrain GP.

At the same time, rumours of conflict between Ferrari's new team boss Frederic Vasseur and CEO Benedetto Vigna have emerged.

Corriere dello Sport claims Frenchman Vasseur is alarmed to find that Vigna has taken on some of the responsibilities of the axed Mattia Binotto.

For instance, Vasseur is apparently finding that he has little control over personnel decisions or dealings with team sponsors.

"Vasseur wanted to sign a new sponsor, but he was stopped by the leadership at Ferrari," a source said.

It could be why he chose not to travel to Bahrain with other Ferrari team members, but instead with his friend Toto Wolff.

La Gazzetta dello Sport also reports that Ferrari's sporting director Laurent Mekies is keen to join the team exodus, after it emerged last week that aerodynamics chief David Sanchez is heading to another team.

Frenchman Mekies' destination could be the Stefano Domenicali-led Formula 1 organisation - but it is believed Vasseur has stepped in to veto the move.

"Vasseur has used his right of veto and now there is an impasse," the report read.

La Gazzetta dello Sport also claims that Ferrari's executive race manager Jonathan Giacobazzi and long-time familiar face Gino Rosato have departed - together with strategy boss Inaki Rueda.

Corriere della Sera claims that more departures may be imminent.

"Several contracts will expire soon, including that of Enrico Cardile, who acts as technical director," the newspaper said.

"No one is in a safe place."

Ralf Schumacher, whose brother Michael is the most successful Ferrari driver in history, thinks the team's current problems can be dated back to the Sergio Marchionne era.

"There's just a certain legacy at Ferrari and it's not the current president's fault," he told formel1.de. "It goes back to the former boss, who also brought Alfa Romeo back.

"It was his idea to make Ferrari an all-Italian team again and go back to that DNA. But I think they overlooked a lot of things in that process."
Ferrari in crisis...again. Nothings changed in 15 years.

Meanwhile, Jean Todt walks the red carpet at the Oscars.

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Ferrari doing what Ferrari does best again; self-destroy.
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