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Old 07-21-2017, 02:17 PM
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So obviously the halo comes next year but the FIA is putting all its faith in it based on Sebastian's ONE lap with it at Silverstone and claiming it made him "feel dizzy?" The Shield, which the FIA opted for after initially pushing for the Halo, was dropped after just one public trial, Sebastian Vettel claiming that it made him feel dizzy.


Fighter pilots can manage, why can't a driver?

https://www.pitpass.com/59711/Lauda-Halo-a-mistake
Is that true? Only Ferrari supported the halo out of all the teams? That's crazy.
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Insights & Analysis - BUXTON: Halo, goodbye

Interesting take on the Halo by Will Buxton.
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As one driver who wished to remain anonymous told me this week: "It is a sad day for Formula 1."
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this is gonna suck
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Honda to continue with current engine design into 2019

Honda to Continue with Current Engine Design into 2019 - Formula 1 - The Checkered Flag

Hmmmmmmm
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Maybe since a new engine formula is coming in a few years, it doesn't make sense to start from scratch.
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Maybe since a new engine formula is coming in a few years, it doesn't make sense to start from scratch.
3rd times a charm
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Nico Rosberg visits Stanford University, considering study options

Nico Rosberg visits Stanford University, considering study options ? MotorSportsTalk


He also reportedly holds the highest ever score on Williams’ engineering aptitude test.
^ This does not surprise me at all, from what I've read Rosberg was very technical at Williams and Mercedes.
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Here's Why Formula One Chose The 'Halo' Cockpit Protection That Almost Nobody Likes

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Based on the FIA's reasoning, F1 will go full drone mode in 2019.
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McLaren F1 Team Secures $50 Million Payment To Former Boss On Historic Cars

https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2.../#183c8e864175

Ron gets some extremely special F1 cars if McLaren don't pay him, no worries since the current owners are well funded.
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Here's a link for the digital program for the Hungarian GP

https://www.formula1.com/en/freemium...gary-2017.html
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Originally Posted by Legend2TL
https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2.../#183c8e864175

Ron gets some extremely special F1 cars if McLaren don't pay him, no worries since the current owners are well funded.
If they really are that well funded, then they wouldn't need financing to obtain $50 m to pay Ron.
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Sauber cancels their deal with Honda. So what's the chance that Honda will be out of F1 by end of this year if McLaren bolts?
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Liberty Media is looking into replacing the F1 teams' current 'Concorde Agreement'-type commercial contracts with a franchise model.

That is the claim of Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff, amid rumblings that early talks about the commercial direction of the sport post 2020 have already begun.

The current income distribution model, devised by the now-ousted former F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone, is highly controversial as it heavily weights payments to the richest teams and leaves the smaller outfits struggling for influence and survival.

What does seem clear is that Ecclestone's 'Concorde' agreements will be allowed to simply lapse.

"Liberty Media has a very good approach, namely that the Concorde Agreement, as it was formerly called, will no longer exist," Wolff told Austria's ORF broadcaster.

"In principle, a team in future will have this 'franchise' forever, which helps to add value because you do not have to renegotiate every eight years," he revealed.
Interesting. This was CART's model back in the day.

We'll see how this works out. I think nobody took Liberty's offer to buy equity in F1, so is Liberty going to give equity to the teams in exchange for being part of the show? Will this mean that if a new team wants to come in, they will need to purchase an existing franchise?
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2017 Hungarian Grand Prix track preview




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Silly season thought-of-the-day: would love to see Charles Leclerc in F1 sooner (2018) than later, but don't really see how a seat would open up for him next season (even if Kimi retires)...unless Sauber ends up partnering with Ferrari as their engine-supplier .... hmmmmmm. Hmmmmmm.

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Originally Posted by nanxun
Silly season thought-of-the-day: would love to see Charles Leclerc in F1 sooner (2018) than later, but don't really see how a seat would open up for him next season (even if Kimi retires)...unless Sauber ends up partnering with Ferrari as their engine-supplier .... hmmmmmm. Hmmmmmm.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/h...deal-2018.html

Sauber have announced a new 'multi-year' engine supply agreement with Ferrari, continuing a technical collaboration that now spans almost two decades.The news comes just one day after Sauber confirmed they had cancelled a planned tie-in with Honda for the 2018 season.

The new deal with Ferrari provisions for supply of the 'latest power unit specification' - a change from the 2017 status quo, with Sauber currently using year-old Ferrari power units in their C36.

"I am very pleased to confirm that we will continue to work with Scuderia Ferrari as our engine supplier in form of a multi-year agreement," Sauber's new team principal Frederic Vasseur said.

"The shared experience between the Sauber F1 Team and Ferrari has built a strong foundation, which will allow us to move forward swiftly and efficiently, also in terms of the development of the 2018 car.

"I am convinced that together we can achieve the results which reflect the passion and determination that is, and always has been, behind the Sauber F1 Team."

Sauber and Ferrari have a technical relationship that dates back to 1997 - while the team's best results in F1 as an independent constructor, two second places in 2012, were also scored with Ferrari power.

Wonder if someone is losing their Ferrari power.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/h...deal-2018.html


Wonder if someone is losing their Ferrari power.
Don't think Haas will lose their Ferrari PUs.

But my guess is that Marcus Ericsson may be out of a race-seat in favor of F2 phenom and Ferrari junior driver, Charles Leclerc.

But will Sauber keep Pascal Wehrlein, a Mercedes junior, or replace him permanently with Giovinazzi, another Ferrari junior?
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Carbon Fiber . . . . .

Champagne?? Bottle is cool, wonder how good the bubbly is and what it costs per bottle?




https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/h...-supplier.html
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Cost per bottle is $3000. I went and looked cause I want one of those cool carbon fiber bottles but not for that price.
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WooHoo Fernando!!


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Yeah that was really awesome
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan

Would never have happened if Bernie was still in charge.
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
Cost per bottle is $3000. I went and looked cause I want one of those cool carbon fiber bottles but not for that price.

"Each bottle of Champagne Carbon comes wrapped in carbon cloth, a process that took four years to develop and which requires a master craftsman a full week for each bottle and 21 highly precise steps to complete."

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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
Cost per bottle is $3000. I went and looked cause I want one of those cool carbon fiber bottles but not for that price.
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"Each bottle of Champagne Carbon comes wrapped in carbon cloth, a process that took four years to develop and which requires a master craftsman a full week for each bottle and 21 highly precise steps to complete."

Even if some people have way too much disposable income laying about, you'd think it might be put to some better use .... But hey, whaddo I know? Maybe the champagne is outta this world.
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Originally Posted by nanxun
Even if some people have way too much disposable income laying about, you'd think it might be put to some better use .... But hey, whaddo I know? Maybe the champagne is outta this world.
I'm far from being an Occupy Wall Street sympathizer, but yeah, even if you do have the money, there's gotta be a better use of your money.
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"Suck my Balls!"

bwahahahahaha, guess they don't love each other huh??


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Nico Hulkenberg couldn’t contain his frustration at Kevin Magnussen’s elbows-out manoeuvre in the Hungarian Formula 1 Grand Prix as his anger boiled-over post-race.

With nine laps to go, Hulkenberg attempt to overtake the Haas driver around the outside of Turn 2 but Magnussen declined to give him any room and pushed him onto the grass.

The resulting stewards’ investigation gave Magnussen a five-second time-penalty for “forcing another driver off the track,” and the Dane was ultimately dropped from 11th to 13th.

Hulkenberg eventually retired from the race on the final lap with damage but in the post-race TV interviews, he confronted Magnussen.

“Once again, the most unsporting driver of the grid,” he said to Magnussen as the Haas driver was conducting a TV interview.

“Suck my balls, mate.” replied the Dane.

“You did really good, man,” said Hulkenberg back as Magnussen turned back to the TV camera.

https://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2017/...ngarian-f1-gp/

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Sauber cancels their deal with Honda. So what's the chance that Honda will be out of F1 by end of this year if McLaren bolts?
Just got a chance to see this, but I don't think it's good for anyone in F1 to lose Honda. That would be too bad.
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McLaren won't bolt, they don't have a back up plan as MBZ has said no and surely Ferrari would as well. Honda will be around next year for sure.
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Seems like Ericsson and Wehrlein should start packing their bags. Will MBZ be able to get Wehrlein a seat with Williams or Force India (One)?

Sergio Marchionne says that Sauber engine deal will create Ferrari F1 “junior team”
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So Sauber will be the Ferrari Junior team and Haas will just be a regular customer team? Hopefully it won't take away current spec Ferrari engines from Haas. That would not be good.
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Apparently there was a mishap during awards that I completely missed.

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I love mishaps like that.
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Apparently there was a mishap during awards that I completely missed.


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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
bwahahahahaha, guess they don't love each other huh??

https://youtu.be/21T8d0SA5Js

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Nico Hulkenberg couldn’t contain his frustration at Kevin Magnussen’s elbows-out manoeuvre in the Hungarian Formula 1 Grand Prix as his anger boiled-over post-race.

With nine laps to go, Hulkenberg attempt to overtake the Haas driver around the outside of Turn 2 but Magnussen declined to give him any room and pushed him onto the grass.

The resulting stewards’ investigation gave Magnussen a five-second time-penalty for “forcing another driver off the track,” and the Dane was ultimately dropped from 11th to 13th.

Hulkenberg eventually retired from the race on the final lap with damage but in the post-race TV interviews, he confronted Magnussen.

“Once again, the most unsporting driver of the grid,” he said to Magnussen as the Haas driver was conducting a TV interview.

“Suck my balls, mate.” replied the Dane.

“You did really good, man,” said Hulkenberg back as Magnussen turned back to the TV camera.

https://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2017/...ngarian-f1-gp/

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This is the first clear picture I've seen of Kubica's right arm since the accident. I hope he does well in the Renault car this week testing in Hungary.

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Looking at his arm in that picture it seems amazing to me that he has the strength to handle the car for long periods. Just doesn't look like he has much muscle left in the arm.
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I knew it was bad from the accident's description, but seeing it for the first time is shocking. It's amazing that he is still racing.
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