Formula One: 2015 Season News and Discussion Thread
10-26-2015, 03:35 PM
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Rosberg should have let Vettel past at the end if he wanted a change for the title to stay open. That would have been a great way to stick it to Hamilton too.
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10-26-2015, 03:50 PM
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Rosberg had almost zero chance at the title. He needs to finish in front of Vettel for second in the championship, otherwise, it will look embarrassing.
10-26-2015, 04:19 PM
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"Whoopsie, spun again dammit!"
10-26-2015, 04:27 PM
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As much as I wanted Vettel to catch him, Rosberg would accomplish nothing by letting Vettel pass. Letting Vettel pass would destroy what little is left of the Mercedes AMG driver relationship.
10-26-2015, 05:39 PM
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Logically yes of course but he could have helped Seb be a pain in Hamilton's side if he was sneaky enough about it. Hell, he could take Hamilton out at the next race (probably what management is hoping to thwart in its upcoming sit down with the drivers). MBZ has both titles so now it doesn't matter so much any more does it? As a matter of financial smarts, I'm certain 
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payout and Rosberg would be foolish to throw that away.
> payout and Rosberg would be foolish to throw that away.
10-26-2015, 06:05 PM
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yeah certainly more than 3 I would think too, probably closer to 5 considering how strong the Williams/Renault package was back in those days.
10-26-2015, 08:06 PM
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After watching this interview with Romain Grosjean, the meathead in me is really pumped for Haas F1.
Romain Grosjean ready to lead Haas F1 | NBC Sports
Romain Grosjean ready to lead Haas F1 | NBC Sports
10-27-2015, 08:57 AM
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One thing most probably already know is the front wing besides providing downforce also has a equally important job of managing airflow around the chassis even up to the rear wing and undertray. The best place to so to speak get it right is at the front. The front wings that work so well on say a MB may not work so well on a Ferrai or Red Bull since they are designed to work specifically for a given aerodynamic shape.
great recapitulation Legend! I couldn't agree more, this kind of topic is what is so cool to me about F1. I have zero engineering experience but a strong scientific mind and enjoy the sport because of the technical prowess its engineers bring to the pinnacle of motorsport. I remember a conversation I had with Derrick Walker at Mid-Ohio, c. 1993 (?) about carbon fiber tubs in Indy. Even though as proved later, CF would make vast improvements in driver safety, the other teams voted to disallow the Porsche Indycar entry because of its vast use of it. Walker was utterly confounded to understand why this occurred as it totally destroyed Porsche's chances of racing competitively. I'll never forget that conversation, I had his undivided attention for at least 20 minutes.
IIRC Rick Mears said CF tubs made him braver at high speed ovals since he knows all too much about crashes and injuries.
An excellent blog full with F1 technical stuff. Good bed time reading...
theWPTformula | Technical insight into Formula 1 and other things motorsport
theWPTformula | Technical insight into Formula 1 and other things motorsport
good site, here's another good technical F1 siteFormula One uncovered! - F1technical.net
10-27-2015, 09:10 AM
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But probably the were team-orders before the race that we don't know about. I am not saying it was "fixed". But it is obvious there was a heavy dose of Mercedes risk management going on throughout the season.
PS. I agree also with posters who wrote that this was the best race of the season. Water had something to do with it. They should be doing this in every race... i.e. flood the track!
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10-27-2015, 11:29 AM
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is still >
10-27-2015, 03:24 PM
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gotta get the points
, I suspect 3+ more WC for Senna as the Williams developed the FW17/18/19
10-27-2015, 10:06 PM
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My buddy and I were sitting at Turn 9. Gotta say, I definitely liked that vantage point. A pity about Rosberg - he pretty much did everything right all weekend up until the final laps. W/E...I was pleasantly surprised to see Button/Alonso running in 5th/6th for a while. Glad to see Button bagged some points.
Did anyone hang around Sunday night? By our count, we saw Romain Grojsean, Eric Boullier, and Matt LeBlanc at the Coyote Ugly bar. That was pretty cool.
We bar hopped and I eventually picked Pete's Dueling Piano bar (big fan of such bars). After a 30 min wait in line, we got in and found ourselves surrounded by drunk fans from the UK. A good time all around, until everyone started turning around and looked to the 2nd level (guess it was the VIP section?). Lo and behold, it was none other than the champ himself:
(apologies for the blurry cell phone pic - it was really dark. My HTC One M8 did the best it could lol)
LH wearing red, holding the beer:
Naturally, the whole bar went wild. The piano guys started playing "We Are the Champions" and the whole bar joined in. Then one of the UK fans dropped a $100 bill for a song request: "God Save the Queen". Haha.
A couple minutes later, Rosberg popped his head over the railing and waved to everyone. Fans started chanting his name - at least he was smiling a couple hours later.
Rosberg (pointing)
All in all, a great way to wrap up the weekend.
Did anyone hang around Sunday night? By our count, we saw Romain Grojsean, Eric Boullier, and Matt LeBlanc at the Coyote Ugly bar. That was pretty cool.
We bar hopped and I eventually picked Pete's Dueling Piano bar (big fan of such bars). After a 30 min wait in line, we got in and found ourselves surrounded by drunk fans from the UK. A good time all around, until everyone started turning around and looked to the 2nd level (guess it was the VIP section?). Lo and behold, it was none other than the champ himself:
(apologies for the blurry cell phone pic - it was really dark. My HTC One M8 did the best it could lol)
LH wearing red, holding the beer:
Naturally, the whole bar went wild. The piano guys started playing "We Are the Champions" and the whole bar joined in. Then one of the UK fans dropped a $100 bill for a song request: "God Save the Queen". Haha.
A couple minutes later, Rosberg popped his head over the railing and waved to everyone. Fans started chanting his name - at least he was smiling a couple hours later.
Rosberg (pointing)
All in all, a great way to wrap up the weekend.
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10-27-2015, 10:29 PM
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My buddy and I were sitting at Turn 9. Gotta say, I definitely liked that vantage point. A pity about Rosberg - he pretty much did everything right all weekend up until the final laps. W/E...I was pleasantly surprised to see Button/Alonso running in 5th/6th for a while. Glad to see Button bagged some points.
Did anyone hang around Sunday night? By our count, we saw Romain Grojsean, Eric Boullier, and Matt LeBlanc at the Coyote Ugly bar. That was pretty cool.
We bar hopped and I eventually picked Pete's Dueling Piano bar (big fan of such bars). After a 30 min wait in line, we got in and found ourselves surrounded by drunk fans from the UK. A good time all around, until everyone started turning around and looked to the 2nd level (guess it was the VIP section?). Lo and behold, it was none other than the champ himself:
(apologies for the blurry cell phone pic - it was really dark. My HTC One M8 did the best it could lol)
LH wearing red, holding the beer:
Naturally, the whole bar went wild. The piano guys started playing "We Are the Champions" and the whole bar joined in. Then one of the UK fans dropped a $100 bill for a song request: "God Save the Queen". Haha.
A couple minutes later, Rosberg popped his head over the railing and waved to everyone. Fans started chanting his name - at least he was smiling a couple hours later.
Rosberg (pointing)
All in all, a great way to wrap up the weekend.
Did anyone hang around Sunday night? By our count, we saw Romain Grojsean, Eric Boullier, and Matt LeBlanc at the Coyote Ugly bar. That was pretty cool.
We bar hopped and I eventually picked Pete's Dueling Piano bar (big fan of such bars). After a 30 min wait in line, we got in and found ourselves surrounded by drunk fans from the UK. A good time all around, until everyone started turning around and looked to the 2nd level (guess it was the VIP section?). Lo and behold, it was none other than the champ himself:
(apologies for the blurry cell phone pic - it was really dark. My HTC One M8 did the best it could lol)
LH wearing red, holding the beer:
Naturally, the whole bar went wild. The piano guys started playing "We Are the Champions" and the whole bar joined in. Then one of the UK fans dropped a $100 bill for a song request: "God Save the Queen". Haha.
A couple minutes later, Rosberg popped his head over the railing and waved to everyone. Fans started chanting his name - at least he was smiling a couple hours later.
Rosberg (pointing)
All in all, a great way to wrap up the weekend.
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10-28-2015, 05:48 AM
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surprised Rosberg didn't throw Hammy over the railing. What an experience! Thanks for sharing.
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10-28-2015, 11:20 PM
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Did Hamilton at least buy free drinks for everyone?
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10-29-2015, 12:34 PM
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Definitely cool Mugen. Thank you for sharing.
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10-30-2015, 01:36 PM
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Mexico FP1:
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Max Verstappen Netherlands Toro Rosso-Renault 1:25.990
2. Daniil Kvyat Russia Red Bull-Renault 1:26.295
3. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:26.295
4. Sebastian Vettel Germany Ferrari 1:26.886
5. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Renault 1:27.185
6. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:27.196
7. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:27.303
8. Carlos Sainz Spain Toro Rosso-Renault 1:27.410
9. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:27.581
10. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:27.695
11. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:27.723
12. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Sauber-Ferrari 1:28.498
13. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Lotus-Mercedes 1:28.559
14. Felipe Nasr Brazil Sauber-Ferrari 1:28.579
15. Jolyon Palmer Britain Lotus-Mercedes 1:28.711
16. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:29.099
17. Fernando Alonso Spain McLaren-Honda 1:30.072
18. Alexander Rossi United States Marussia-Ferrari 1:30.619
19. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Honda 1:32.091
20. Will Stevens Britain Marussia-Ferrari 1:32.866
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Max Verstappen Netherlands Toro Rosso-Renault 1:25.990
2. Daniil Kvyat Russia Red Bull-Renault 1:26.295
3. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:26.295
4. Sebastian Vettel Germany Ferrari 1:26.886
5. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Renault 1:27.185
6. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:27.196
7. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:27.303
8. Carlos Sainz Spain Toro Rosso-Renault 1:27.410
9. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:27.581
10. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:27.695
11. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:27.723
12. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Sauber-Ferrari 1:28.498
13. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Lotus-Mercedes 1:28.559
14. Felipe Nasr Brazil Sauber-Ferrari 1:28.579
15. Jolyon Palmer Britain Lotus-Mercedes 1:28.711
16. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:29.099
17. Fernando Alonso Spain McLaren-Honda 1:30.072
18. Alexander Rossi United States Marussia-Ferrari 1:30.619
19. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Honda 1:32.091
20. Will Stevens Britain Marussia-Ferrari 1:32.866
10-30-2015, 01:39 PM
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Guitierrez confirmed for Haas. Anyone just a little disappointing that Rossi didn't get the second seat?
10-30-2015, 01:46 PM
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^ A bit, but I recall hearing Gene Haas say something to the effect of they don't want to hire a rookie that's going to crash the car/want more experienced drivers.
Hoping Rossi keeps an F1 seat for next season. Maybe Marussia with MBZ power & Williams technical will be more competitive?
Hoping Rossi keeps an F1 seat for next season. Maybe Marussia with MBZ power & Williams technical will be more competitive?
10-30-2015, 03:29 PM
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^ A bit, but I recall hearing Gene Haas say something to the effect of they don't want to hire a rookie that's going to crash the car/want more experienced drivers.
Hoping Rossi keeps an F1 seat for next season. Maybe Marussia with MBZ power & Williams technical will be more competitive?
Hoping Rossi keeps an F1 seat for next season. Maybe Marussia with MBZ power & Williams technical will be more competitive?
10-30-2015, 03:29 PM
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Force India to become Aston Martin? Interesting. Didn't know the Mercedes owns a bit of AM.
10-30-2015, 04:49 PM
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^^^^^
More and more factory teams are joining the party.
More and more factory teams are joining the party.
10-30-2015, 08:46 PM
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Drivers hit record speeds in Mexico
https://www.formula1.com/content/fom...in-mexico.html
The upshot means some of the highest speeds of the season - indeed Hamilton's Mercedes clocked 362.3 km/h, or 225.1 mph, in the opening session. With track conditions set to improve, that figure may well increase further as the weekend progresses and teams hone their set-ups.
https://www.formula1.com/content/fom...in-mexico.html
The upshot means some of the highest speeds of the season - indeed Hamilton's Mercedes clocked 362.3 km/h, or 225.1 mph, in the opening session. With track conditions set to improve, that figure may well increase further as the weekend progresses and teams hone their set-ups.
10-30-2015, 10:02 PM
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10-31-2015, 05:54 PM
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^^^ Bob Bell, technical director left last week! WTF is going on at Manor? They get MBZ works engines with complete factory parity and they self-destruct.
11-01-2015, 12:14 AM
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The rumour I read yesterday or today was that the relationship between some of the senior team members and the owner is strained/not so great. It certainly looks like ppl are unhappy and are jumping ship, but who knows.
11-01-2015, 06:44 AM
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11-01-2015, 12:05 PM
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Honda techs can't find the cause of a misfire in one of their own V6 engines and recommend to get a new engine. That sounds very familiar
11-01-2015, 07:28 PM
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Whoops!!
Williams front suspension deserves a round of applause !
Williams front suspension deserves a round of applause !
11-01-2015, 10:15 PM
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Not a terribly interesting race.
11-01-2015, 11:22 PM
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^ agree.
Poor Jenson though... at least they didn't add any grid penalties for having a hot wife
Poor Jenson though... at least they didn't add any grid penalties for having a hot wife
11-02-2015, 02:12 AM
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The Honda cars are simply cruising (not racing) along the race track to fulfill their contracts with the sponsors.
11-02-2015, 07:50 AM
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Drivers hit record speeds in Mexico
https://www.formula1.com/content/fom...in-mexico.html
The upshot means some of the highest speeds of the season - indeed Hamilton's Mercedes clocked 362.3 km/h, or 225.1 mph, in the opening session. With track conditions set to improve, that figure may well increase further as the weekend progresses and teams hone their set-ups.
https://www.formula1.com/content/fom...in-mexico.html
The upshot means some of the highest speeds of the season - indeed Hamilton's Mercedes clocked 362.3 km/h, or 225.1 mph, in the opening session. With track conditions set to improve, that figure may well increase further as the weekend progresses and teams hone their set-ups.
11-02-2015, 08:48 AM
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