West6MT

The sounds sucks (lack of sound).

Bernie's been commenting on it (he did before the season started too). Article says a number of race promoters are complaining.

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12...-australian-gp

Bernie contemplating retirement,...

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/92...ing-Retirement


And some updated info about the fuel flow stuff
http://www1.skysports.com/f1/report/...f-rules-breach

Chief F1 Fan

White man speaks with forked tongue Before the season started the Bernster said a few times that the sound wasn't bad but "different." Now he's singing a different song. I don't know what to make of his retirement as I am still unsure what he does other than extort money from countries for his grands prix to come to town.

F-C

00TL-P3.2

The sound grew on me between the initial videos from testing to the actual Melbourne GP. Still nothing close to the wail of before, but I could live with it.
I'm not opposed to a mid-season adjustment though.

fsttyms1

Isnt that what racing is about though, finding something that works that your competitor hasnt to give you that slight edge? At what point is the FIA going to hand the teams the cars and say nothing can be changed, have fun racing?

And I know, I wasnt serious but that is the path we are headed down with trying to make everyone equal.

fsttyms1

I hate them. Seriously hate them.

fsttyms1

Just wait, the fix will be pumping the old engine sounds thru the loud speakers at the track

Chief F1 Fan

there's a lot of articles online about the fuel sensor issues facing the teams before the season started, the FIA's involvement, the technical working group's issues and discussions with the teams. I have no sympathy for RBR-they were told Ricciardo's power plant was getting too much fuel creating up to 8hp more and yet chose to do nothing.

I disagree with the assertion the FIA is trying to make everyone equal, instead it has created a very strict formula for the power units within which each manufacturer must abide. It's no different than it has been for decades in essence.

Yumcha

You kids see this: https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...postcount=3834

Chief F1 Fan

I saw that during the race-way cool!

Aman

What I don't understand is how the FIA got Ricciardo's fuel info.

The other teams applied this "offset" to the sensor's readings and supposedly got accurate values. Was it that Red Bull didn't do the same, and the FIA got readings from an uncorrected flow sensor? Or the readings provided to them from Red Bull's own info?

Or maybe RB's FIA sensor readings were offset as instructed, but they just used the problem as an excuse to go over the limit.

F-C

I think that's what happened. I still haven't seen exactly what RB did. There's really two ways to look at this.:

a) RB did not exceed the fuel flow rate. The FIA's readings were wrong and RB can prove it.
b) Regardless of whether the FIA's monitor was correct or not, RB didn't use the FIA sensor and it's an automatic disqualification.

F-C

For you Canadians:

Aman

But the FIA's accusation is that RB exceeded the fuel flow... so if RB can prove it didn't, I don't know if they can fall back and say "Well, now the reason you're disqualified is you didn't use our flow sensor" and uphold the disqualification. Maybe a fee, or a points/position penalty?

Cool video, BTW.

The Dougler

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Right about when that series went down the crapper. I used to love it back when it was CART and Alex Zanardi was racing for Chip Ganassi.

Chief F1 Fan

REad: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/03/1...qualification/
From James Allen: The nub of it is that Red Bull decided that the sensors were unreliable and applied its own offset rather than the one that the FIA included in its calibration. The FIA observed that it is up to them – not the team – to give instructions on what measures to follow in the event that wrong readings are sus

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2014/0...fuel-flow-row/


And another good article indicating the FIA sent out a directive during pre-season testing that if there was a problem with the sensor, it would be corrected "by a factor decided by the FIA" http://www.f1technical.net/news/19219

Legend2TL

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...on-the-f1-grid

Ferrari car looked off the pace of the McLaren, red Bull, and Mercedes. Kinda surprised since Bryne is back but perhaps he needs more time to design and develop a decent chassis again. Also the days of running 30Km/year of testing at their Fiorano test track are no longer allowed.

F-C

2013 was when Ferrari had the best car on the track. Alonso is just a sucky driver.

Mugen.Justice

Well. This isn't good PR for Ferrari or F1 in general.


http://www.autoblog.com/2014/03/23/f...atives-report/

fsttyms1

Well if the rooms were already booked long ago which im sure they were those rooms would have to be given up at some point. Its not like the team came in there and forced them to get out.

Legend2TL

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/m...n-9214811.html

F-C

Just about every team has threatened to withdraw at some point because of grievances.

West6MT

is right

F-C

Sepang P1:

POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:40.691
2. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:40.843
3. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:41.028
4. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:41.111
5. Kevin Magnussen Denmark McLaren-Mercedes 1:41.274
6. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Renault 1:41.402
7. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:41.523
8. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:41.642
9. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:41.686
10. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:41.830
11. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:41.923
12. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Renault 1:42.117
13. Adrian Sutil Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:42.365
14. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Renault 1:42.869
15. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:42.904
16. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Ferrari 1:43.825
17. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Caterham-Renault 1:45.775
18. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Ferrari 1:46.911
19. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Caterham-Renault 1:51.180
20. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes No Time
21. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Lotus-Renault No Time
22. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault No Time

F-C

Sepang P2:

POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:39.909
2. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:39.944
3. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:39.970
4. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:40.051
5. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:40.103
6. Felipe Massa Brazil Williams-Mercedes 1:40.112
7. Daniel Ricciardo Autralian Red Bull-Renault 1:40.276
8. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:40.628
9. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Mercedes 1:40.638
10. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:40.691
11. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Renault 1:40.777
12. Kevin Magnussen Denmark McLaren-Mercedes 1:41.014
13. Adrian Sutil Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.257
14. Daniil Kvyat Russia Toro Rosso-Renault 1:41.325
15. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.407
16. Sergio Perez Mexico Force India-Mercedes 1:41.671
17. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:42.531
18. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Ferrari 1:43.638
19. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Ferrari 1:43.752
20. Marcus Ericsson Sweden Caterham-Renault 1:45.703
21. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Caterham-Renault No Time
22. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Lotus-Renault No Time

StreetKA

iTrader: (8)

F1 killier years a great bbc documentary

http://www.sockshare.com/file/M5S4UENFCG0WCK0K#

Chief F1 Fan

thanks bro!

F-C

Biggest surprises yesterday:

1. Overall reliability seems to have improved from the first race.
2. The pace of RB10 seems quite impressive. Did you see Alonso staring at the RB10 in parc ferme rather than the Mercedes after the race? If Renault really is down 80hp from the Mercedes, things could get interesting once Renault gets up to speed.

Legend2TL

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/26811827

2014 WDC is gonna be Lewis

Must be kinda hard for Ross Brawn to see all this knowing he helped build the team up to this season.

F-C

I wouldn't have thought so a month ago, but I think Vettel has a good shot this year.

Legend2TL

Yeah, I never though RB was in as much trouble as the press made out but also didn't consider them to be running where they are now. Pretty good qualifying and race pace.

The team that is sufering is Ferrari, they are lacking pace at the moment.

Chief F1 Fan

Ferrari is just as fast as MBZ-on the straights but they lack traction out of corners and that is killing them. I agree RBR looked like they were in the weeds a few weeks ago. Best chassis with the shittiest power plant.

StreetKA

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http://thisisf1.com/2014/03/31/massa...s-controversy/

Chief F1 Fan

Legend2TL

vwong

Where is the thread for the Bahrain picks?

F-C

Is the race this week ?

Chief F1 Fan

Yah mon

Chief F1 Fan

So RBR, if you ditch Renault, you think MBZ will sell you power plants?

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns27677.html

F-C

Honda