Formula One: 2013 Season News and Discussion Thread **Brazil Grand Prix page 9**
09-12-2013, 01:43 PM
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"I know how to drive, leave me alone." 
and to the pitwall as Kimi flies past 
EDIT
Obviously I misquoted but you get the idea . . . .
and to the pitwall as Kimi flies past EDIT
Obviously I misquoted but you get the idea . . . .
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09-12-2013, 09:31 PM
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this is getting very interesting i though that Alonso has a rights to decide who he wants for his team mate but now im lost hehe cant wait for next season... on the side note i need new polo shirt ;/ my Lotus Kimi expires with the end of the season
09-13-2013, 03:44 AM
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So i'm looking at tickets for the Austin race. Can someone explain to me where the General admission seats are?? I can't figure it out... is it in the grass or something? And would there be a Screen to watch on?
09-13-2013, 11:36 AM
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I'm pretty sure GA is sitting on the grass. I guess if you find a spot close to some bleachers, there should be screens.
09-13-2013, 11:49 AM
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Schumacher had #1 status from cars to race strategy so I'm guessing he had it as well. Senna didn't have it while at Lotus and McLaren but he used mind games with Peter Warr (Lotus) and Ron Dennis (McLaren) to get weaker drivers than himself.
09-13-2013, 04:51 PM
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Show up and scalp a ticket for a grandstand, if you can't find what you want at the price you want to pay, THEN buy a GA. Don't pre-buy one.
09-14-2013, 02:49 AM
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Some bleacher tickets are already sold out, or the packages are at least I believe.
Maybe I'll go for one of the bleacher, but thats roughly $269 or something for the weekend. I'd probably be looking close to a grand with food drinks, rental car, hotel huh?
Shit so expensive, but my only chance to hear the V8's in person!!! Aghh dunno what to do. First I gotta see if a few of my friends are willing to go.
09-14-2013, 02:50 AM
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09-14-2013, 05:50 AM
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A grand?? You're kidding right? I doubt GA tickets will get sold out-they'll sell as many of those as they can and let people clamor for a spot to watch. You'd better do some research if your budget is a grand. You don't need a car to get to the track, use mass transit
09-14-2013, 07:18 AM
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At Kimi's first stint at Ferrari, Rory Byrne was a adviser having designed all of Micheal Schumacher's F1 championship winning cars (including Benneton). During driver debriefing, Byrne could not get much feedback out of Kimi. Byrne mentioned this in casual conversation with Adrian Newey (they've known each other for decades). Byrne asked Newey if he ever got much out of Kimi while at McLaren. Newey semi-jokingly replied "not even the time". So every so often when they see each other, one will ask "what time it is" and the other shrugs.
BTW Byrne was lured out of retirement for the second time by ferrari and is designing their 2014 car. I think 2014 will be a interesting season.
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/0...-turbo-f1-car/
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09-14-2013, 07:25 AM
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and at McLaren, Kimi being exceedingly frustrated with MBZ engines that had a propensity to blow up would be told to limit the revs as the engine was going to detonate. Instead, he would floor it and intentionally blow the engine. He's one of a kind that's for sure.
09-14-2013, 12:34 PM
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09-14-2013, 07:09 PM
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Well I hope the 2014 Ferrari is very competitive. I would love to see Kimi or Alonso win another championship (esp Kimi), and I certainly don't want to see fucking Red Bull win again.
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09-14-2013, 08:43 PM
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A grand?? You're kidding right? I doubt GA tickets will get sold out-they'll sell as many of those as they can and let people clamor for a spot to watch. You'd better do some research if your budget is a grand. You don't need a car to get to the track, use mass transit
09-15-2013, 01:51 AM
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I should also mention there would be 3 of us splitting a hotel room, which brings down the cost.
09-16-2013, 07:47 AM
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09-16-2013, 09:28 AM
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09-16-2013, 12:04 PM
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09-16-2013, 01:28 PM
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I'll go next year-Austin is a young man's dream. Lots of smokin hot chicks
09-16-2013, 01:29 PM
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To clarify I am def not a young man
09-16-2013, 08:21 PM
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09-17-2013, 05:50 AM
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Good point speed, OTOH, the new formula will likely shake up the championship throughout the season as the teams readjust to the regs.
09-20-2013, 05:17 AM
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09-20-2013, 05:20 AM
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Kimi Raikkonen joining Ferrari because of money dispute
Kimi's like "show me the money" 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24159684
Vettel is a bargain at $18M compared to his peers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24159684
Kimi Raikkonen has said the reason he will leave Lotus and race for Ferrari next year is because he has not been paid by his current team.
The Finn, who is on a basic salary of eight million euros (£6.7m), is joining Fernando Alonso at Ferrari to form potentially the strongest driver line-up on the grid.
"I haven't got my salary," said the former world champion. "I like to race - that's the only reason why I'm here."
Lotus have declined to comment.
Raikkonen said that despite being owed money by the team he would continue to race for Lotus this season....
The Finn, who is on a basic salary of eight million euros (£6.7m), is joining Fernando Alonso at Ferrari to form potentially the strongest driver line-up on the grid.
"I haven't got my salary," said the former world champion. "I like to race - that's the only reason why I'm here."
Lotus have declined to comment.
Raikkonen said that despite being owed money by the team he would continue to race for Lotus this season....
Formula 1's best paid drivers
According to Forbes' Highest-Paid Athletes list, Fernando Alonso is the best paid driver in F1, earning a total of $30m (£18.6m) a year.
Lewis Hamilton and Sebastian Vettel were the only other F1 drivers to make 2012's top 100 list, placed 26th and 89th respectively. Hamilton earns $27.5m (£17.1m), while Vettel takes home $18m (£11.2m).
Kimi Raikkonen is understood to be on a basic salary of £6.7m at Lotus.
According to Forbes' Highest-Paid Athletes list, Fernando Alonso is the best paid driver in F1, earning a total of $30m (£18.6m) a year.
Lewis Hamilton and Sebastian Vettel were the only other F1 drivers to make 2012's top 100 list, placed 26th and 89th respectively. Hamilton earns $27.5m (£17.1m), while Vettel takes home $18m (£11.2m).
Kimi Raikkonen is understood to be on a basic salary of £6.7m at Lotus.
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09-20-2013, 08:35 AM
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Kimi at Ferrari next year 
09-27-2013, 05:43 AM
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One expensive taxi ride
I never would've guessed Ferrari had a sense of humor:
http://www.f1reader.com/news/ferrari...axi-ride-83303
http://www.f1reader.com/news/ferrari...axi-ride-83303
09-27-2013, 12:26 PM
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09-27-2013, 09:08 PM
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So 22 races next year, if my counting was correct. :S
New Jersey, Austria, Russia, Mexico added to 2014 calendar
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...3/9/15021.html
New Jersey, Austria, Russia, Mexico added to 2014 calendar
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...3/9/15021.html
09-28-2013, 05:06 AM
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see my last post on "News" thread
09-29-2013, 07:25 AM
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Glad to see Austria is back but forgot to note that Joisey is "provisional."
10-04-2013, 12:39 PM
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Korea FP1:
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:39.630
2. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:39.667
3. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:39.816
4. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:40.117
5. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:40.215
6. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:40.374
7. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:40.396
8. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:40.677
9. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:40.860
10. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:40.880
11. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:40.899
12. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:41.432
13. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:41.482
14. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.626
15. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:41.924
16. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:42.002
17. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:42.043
18. James Calado Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:43.008
19. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:40.660
20. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:43.883
21. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:44.100
22. Rodolfo Gonzalez Venezuela Marussia-Cosworth 1:46.810
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:39.630
2. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:39.667
3. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:39.816
4. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:40.117
5. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:40.215
6. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:40.374
7. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:40.396
8. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:40.677
9. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:40.860
10. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:40.880
11. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:40.899
12. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:41.432
13. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:41.482
14. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.626
15. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:41.924
16. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:42.002
17. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:42.043
18. James Calado Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:43.008
19. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:40.660
20. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:43.883
21. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:44.100
22. Rodolfo Gonzalez Venezuela Marussia-Cosworth 1:46.810
10-04-2013, 12:40 PM
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Korea FP2:
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:38.673
2. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:38.781
3. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:38.797
4. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:38.844
5. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:39.114
6. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:39.226
7. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:39.444
8. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:39.757
9. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:39.774
10. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:40.006
11. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:40.007
12. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:40.152
13. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:40.186
14. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:40.210
15. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:40.446
16. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:40.552
17. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:41.117
18. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:41.289
19. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:42.461
20. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:42.798
21. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:43.108
22. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:43.441
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:38.673
2. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:38.781
3. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:38.797
4. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:38.844
5. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:39.114
6. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:39.226
7. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:39.444
8. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:39.757
9. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:39.774
10. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:40.006
11. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:40.007
12. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:40.152
13. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:40.186
14. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:40.210
15. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:40.446
16. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:40.552
17. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:41.117
18. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:41.289
19. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:42.461
20. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:42.798
21. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:43.108
22. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:43.441
10-06-2013, 11:42 AM
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Yes! Another win by Vettel. What do you think of that Lewis? Oh right, I guess Sauber has traction control now, too.
10-06-2013, 04:23 PM
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That car was really fast off of those turns that went into the straights.
That was a great race though!
That was a great race though!
10-11-2013, 09:06 AM
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Uh, oh. Prepare for uglies and exploding engines.
Red Bull designer Adrian Newey has admitted his new car for 2014 is "ugly".
"The new Red Bull is ugly. Unfortunately," he is quoted by the German news agency SID.
Briton Newey, widely regarded as the best car designer in F1, is not at Suzuka this weekend as he focuses instead on the challenge of the radical 2014 rules.
He said he is working on the RB10 for "four of the five days" of the working week.
He said the reason for the 'ugly' 2014 car is because of the new aerodynamic rules, sending designers down the path of penning a "hook nose".
But the bigger concern for F1's technical boffins is the new powertrain rules, which Newey said are "more complex than ever before".
Agreed Alain Prost, Renault ambassador: "We have three engine manufacturers, and none of them are particularly optimistic.
"Reliability is the biggest challenge at the moment, to be honest," he added.
Mercedes' Toto Wolff, however, is excited.
"A month ago I was in Maranello and saw their engine factory and thought: 'German engineering ingenuity against Italian improvisation and French laissez-faire'."
Ferrari driver Felipe Massa, however, is most concerned about the 'show'.
"Yes, it could be very frustrating to have to save fuel," said the Brazilian at Suzuka.
"I just hope it can be interesting to watch for the spectators and viewers and that it can also be interesting for the drivers," he added.
"The new Red Bull is ugly. Unfortunately," he is quoted by the German news agency SID.
Briton Newey, widely regarded as the best car designer in F1, is not at Suzuka this weekend as he focuses instead on the challenge of the radical 2014 rules.
He said he is working on the RB10 for "four of the five days" of the working week.
He said the reason for the 'ugly' 2014 car is because of the new aerodynamic rules, sending designers down the path of penning a "hook nose".
But the bigger concern for F1's technical boffins is the new powertrain rules, which Newey said are "more complex than ever before".
Agreed Alain Prost, Renault ambassador: "We have three engine manufacturers, and none of them are particularly optimistic.
"Reliability is the biggest challenge at the moment, to be honest," he added.
Mercedes' Toto Wolff, however, is excited.
"A month ago I was in Maranello and saw their engine factory and thought: 'German engineering ingenuity against Italian improvisation and French laissez-faire'."
Ferrari driver Felipe Massa, however, is most concerned about the 'show'.
"Yes, it could be very frustrating to have to save fuel," said the Brazilian at Suzuka.
"I just hope it can be interesting to watch for the spectators and viewers and that it can also be interesting for the drivers," he added.
10-11-2013, 09:08 AM
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Suzuka FP1
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:34.157
2. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:34.487
3. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:34.776
4. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:34.787
5. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:35.126
6. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:35.154
7. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:35.179
8. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:35.364
9. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.450
10. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:35.635
11. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.868
12. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:35.900
13. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:36.066
14. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:36.165
15. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:36.178
16. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:36.340
17. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:36.399
18. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:36.760
19. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:37.595
20. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:37.629
21. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:38.025
22. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:38.763
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:34.157
2. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:34.487
3. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:34.776
4. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:34.787
5. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:35.126
6. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:35.154
7. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:35.179
8. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:35.364
9. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.450
10. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:35.635
11. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.868
12. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:35.900
13. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:36.066
14. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:36.165
15. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:36.178
16. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:36.340
17. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:36.399
18. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:36.760
19. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:37.595
20. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1:37.629
21. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:38.025
22. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:38.763
10-11-2013, 09:09 AM
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FP2
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:33.852
2. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:34.020
3. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:34.114
4. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:34.202
5. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:34.411
6. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:34.442
7. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:34.473
8. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:34.698
9. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:34.912
10. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:35.087
11. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:35.089
12. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:35.109
13. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:35.182
14. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:35.275
15. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:35.341
16. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.709
17. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:36.136
18. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:36.722
19. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:37.630
20. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:37.905
21. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:38.121
22. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth No Time
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:33.852
2. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:34.020
3. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:34.114
4. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:34.202
5. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:34.411
6. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes GP 1:34.442
7. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:34.473
8. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:34.698
9. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:34.912
10. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:35.087
11. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:35.089
12. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:35.109
13. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1:35.182
14. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:35.275
15. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:35.341
16. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.709
17. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:36.136
18. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:36.722
19. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1:37.630
20. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:37.905
21. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1:38.121
22. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth No Time
10-22-2013, 10:55 AM
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Toro Rosso announces that Daniil Kvyat will take Ricciardo's seat next year.