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Old 05-28-2012, 03:01 AM
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Go to the race. You'll be in debt the rest of your life regardless. What's another 2K? Poor excuse- seriously.
where do i find that 2k though! Thats the thing. The other thing is its hard to tell my schedule ahead of time with midterms and such.

I know its just excuses but I'll be going for sure...one day haha. I hope its before the V8's are gone though THats happening 2014 right?
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
The stupid Pirelli tires fiasco is really turning the F1 field upside down.
I could not disagree more. It's turned every race into a wet race where the best drivers vs. the best cars win, including the ability to manage tires. Combined with the ban on blown diffusers and the implementation of DRS, F1 has had some of the best races this year I've seen in 40 years.
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Good race....

Pastor Maldonado and Nico Rosberg will be future stars for sure.
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I'd love to see Perez or Maldonado in a Ferrari, not Webber as some sites are reporting.
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
I'd love to see Perez or Maldonado in a Ferrari, not Webber as some sites are reporting.
Who brings in more sponsorship?
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Hey West, I wonder what the students have in mind besides disrupting the main transfer station at Berri-UQAM?

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Im still not sure if im gonna go to Montreal this year or not...
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don't wait till the last minute
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World champion Sebastian Vettel says he finds it hard to imagine life outside of Red Bull Racing, and insists he does not want to be anywhere else.

The two-time champion has a contract with the Milton Keynes-based squad until the end of the 2014 season, but the German has again been linked with a move to the Ferrari team.

Vettel, however, says he feels perfectly happy at Red Bull, with which he has won his two titles.

"I've been wearing a Red Bull helmet for almost my entire career. It is difficult to imagine another kind of life if you are so used to it," Vettel told AUTOSPORT when asked about his plans after 2014.
Don't pull a Schumi, Sebastian.
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he's young still, give him time
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
Hey West, I wonder what the students have in mind besides disrupting the main transfer station at Berri-UQAM?

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/s...ml?CMP=OTC-RSS
Yeah, I have been keeping an eye on those stories. I have no idea what they might plan. I am guessing there will be more security/police presence around Berri-UQAM and Jean Drapeau stations though.

I am hoping the sheer number of race attendees (300k expected) and increased police and security presence will allow for an enjoyable weekend for anyone attending the race.

Hot metro stations + fans that paid a lot of $ to go to the track + increased police and security vs students doing stupid shit to prevent fans from getting to the track = shit hits fan
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This is pretty damn cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=_Wn1EFLa2C8


Why wont this embed!!!
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we can take a cab out to the Casino and avoid the shitheads. fuck it.
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I'd say the tires are a constant and it's the weather's effect on them that isn't fully understood by the teams. Fuck it- best season I can remember. I hate predictability which is why wet races always were the most fun to
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Leading Bashers of 2012
1.Romain Grosjean 7
2.Pastor Maldonado 4 (+1 barrier)
3.Kamui Kobayashi 4
4.Heikki Kovalainen 3
5.Bruno Senna 2
6. Sergio Perez 2
7.Sebastian Vettel 1
8.Nico Rosberg 1
9.Nico Helkenberg 1
10.Felipe Massa 1
11.Jenson Button 1
12.Michael Schumacher 1

http://planetf1.com/off-on-f1/778775...g-After-Monaco
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Interesting. No wonder Grosjean can't finish races.
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Interesting. No wonder Grosjean can't finish races.
He looks like he might be fast if he figures it out. Perez and Maldonado too as far as that goes (being fast, young drivers, that is).
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Hope theres a good race in canada next week!
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Leading Bashers of 2012
1.Romain Grosjean 7
2.Pastor Maldonado 4 (+1 barrier)
3.Kamui Kobayashi 4
4.Heikki Kovalainen 3
5.Bruno Senna 2
6. Sergio Perez 2
7.Sebastian Vettel 1
8.Nico Rosberg 1
9.Nico Helkenberg 1
10.Felipe Massa 1
11.Jenson Button 1
12.Michael Schumacher 1

http://planetf1.com/off-on-f1/778775...g-After-Monaco
should have seen this before my pick
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I was very tempted to pick Grosjean but not in Monaco, it's too technical and demanding for a relative rookie. There's ALWAYS a good race in Montreal, never saw a shitty one since 1989.
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
I was very tempted to pick Grosjean but not in Monaco, it's too technical and demanding for a relative rookie. There's ALWAYS a good race in Montreal, never saw a shitty one since 1989.
x 1000000

The 6 or 7 races I've gone to (and others watched on TV) have all been good races.
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Hey Steve: http://www.montrealgazette.com/sport...366/story.html
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
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Leading Bashers of 2012
1.Romain Grosjean 7
2.Pastor Maldonado 4 (+1 barrier)
3.Kamui Kobayashi 4
4.Heikki Kovalainen 3
5.Bruno Senna 2
6. Sergio Perez 2
7.Sebastian Vettel 1
8.Nico Rosberg 1
9.Nico Helkenberg 1
10.Felipe Massa 1
11.Jenson Button 1
12.Michael Schumacher 1

http://planetf1.com/off-on-f1/778775...g-After-Monaco
Good god this time last year wasn't Hamilton at the top of the list, now he's not even on it
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Good god this time last year wasn't Hamilton at the top of the list, now he's not even on it
This time last year Hamilton also had a win.
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Good god this time last year wasn't Hamilton at the top of the list, now he's not even on it
Yeah, Lew & Phil Massa were probably both at the top of the list
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Red Bull will be forced to modify the controversial holes in the floor of its RB8 after the FIA clarified its position and deemed the design was not permissible.

The ruling, sent by the FIA to all the teams, will apply from next weekend's Canadian Grand Prix onwards and does not affect Mark Webber's Monaco Grand Prix victory.

AUTOSPORT understands Red Bull does not plan to contest the ruling, and will modify its car accordingly for Canada.

Ferrari, McLaren and Mercedes had all expressed doubts about the legality of the holes ahead of the rear wheels of the Red Bull in Monaco, although they decided against a post-race protest.

Red Bull believed there was a grey area in the rulebook concerning the design of the holes, which were not believed to have provided a significant performance advantage.

The FIA has moved to outlaw the design however, saying that the rule book makes it implicit that fully enclosed holes may not be located in the bodywork just ahead of the rear wheels.
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I am no genius but when the rule says the plank along the reference plane must be solid, I don't know how you could interpret it any other way. Oh well, Newey's got a solution figured out and it's probably better than what just got outlawed. No double DRS zone for Canada though, that's too bad but I'm guessing MBZ with good straight line speed and good traction out of slow speed corners, should suit the track well. I'll know more after watching P1-2.
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F1 Salaries

http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227...F1-money-list-

Fernando Alonso is reportedly Formula One's highest-paid driver, bringing home a staggering €14 million more than McLaren's drivers.
According to a French publication, the Business Book GP 2012, Alonso is netting an estimated €30 million per annum - and that does not include any sponsorship deals.
The next on the list are the two McLaren drivers with both Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button pulling in €16 million.
So it's no wonder Sebastian Vettel may or may not be considering a switch to Ferrari one day as for now he's only earning €10 million per season, a vast difference to what Alonso is bringing home.
The reigning World Champ, though, is on a par with Ferrari's second driver, Felipe Massa, while Michael Schumacher, who used to be F1's biggest earner back in his Ferrari days, is now eighth on the list, €2 million below his Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg.
Reported F1 Salaries *
01. Fernando Alonso €30 million
02. Lewis Hamilton €16 million
= Jenson Button €16 million
04. Sebastian Vettel €10 million
= Mark Webber €10 million
= Felipe Massa €10 million
= Nico Rosberg €10 million
08. Michael Schumacher €8 million
09. Kimi Raikkonen €5 million
10. Heikki Kovalainen €4 million
11. Timo Glock €3 million
12. Kamui Kobayashi €1 million
= Romain Grosjean €1 million
14. Nico Hulkenberg €500,000
= Sergio Perez €500,000
= Vitaly Petrov €500,000
= Pedro de la Rosa €500,000
18. Jean-Eric Vergne €400,000
= Daniel Ricciardo €400,000
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Ferrari's getting hosed on Massa's salary; Maldonado's not even on list
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Alonso well deserves his high paid.

He drives a shitty car this season, but still manages to stay competitive and grab good results in some races.
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^^a bit of an understatement but correct. FA lies #1 in WC, Ferrari would be up there too if FN Massa knew how to keep the car in the points.
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IIRC, Vettel does not have an agent. How much does an agent make in F1? 10% of the salary?
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Well that's some serious
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Ferrari's getting hosed on Massa's salary; Maldonado's not even on list

+1, yeah $10M euro for his past two years performance is awful
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More grief: http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/0...lve-fan-event/
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IIRC, Vettel does not have an agent. How much does an agent make in F1? 10% of the salary?
I think that's close, Willi Weber who used to represent both Schumacher's made 15%. Keke Rosberg was Mika's agent.

I also vaguely recall reading Vettel not having a agent.
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GP3 Italian girl driver

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/80440.html

Nice to see something attractive on the grid that wears a Sparco suit and races and not just holding a grid number

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http://planetf1.com/driver/18227/779...ter-balderdash

Ferrari denies the figures

Originally Posted by Legend2TL
http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227...F1-money-list-

Fernando Alonso is reportedly Formula One's highest-paid driver, bringing home a staggering €14 million more than McLaren's drivers.
According to a French publication, the Business Book GP 2012, Alonso is netting an estimated €30 million per annum - and that does not include any sponsorship deals.
The next on the list are the two McLaren drivers with both Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button pulling in €16 million.
So it's no wonder Sebastian Vettel may or may not be considering a switch to Ferrari one day as for now he's only earning €10 million per season, a vast difference to what Alonso is bringing home.
The reigning World Champ, though, is on a par with Ferrari's second driver, Felipe Massa, while Michael Schumacher, who used to be F1's biggest earner back in his Ferrari days, is now eighth on the list, €2 million below his Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg.
Reported F1 Salaries *
01. Fernando Alonso €30 million
02. Lewis Hamilton €16 million
= Jenson Button €16 million
04. Sebastian Vettel €10 million
= Mark Webber €10 million
= Felipe Massa €10 million
= Nico Rosberg €10 million
08. Michael Schumacher €8 million
09. Kimi Raikkonen €5 million
10. Heikki Kovalainen €4 million
11. Timo Glock €3 million
12. Kamui Kobayashi €1 million
= Romain Grosjean €1 million
14. Nico Hulkenberg €500,000
= Sergio Perez €500,000
= Vitaly Petrov €500,000
= Pedro de la Rosa €500,000
18. Jean-Eric Vergne €400,000
= Daniel Ricciardo €400,000
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
Alonso well deserves his high paid.

He drives a shitty car this season, but still manages to stay competitive and grab good results in some races.
Is the Ferrari really that bad? At the beginning of the season, that's what people assumed. However, as the season has progressed, it's pretty evident that all the cars have struggled with the tires depending on the circuit. For example, Button looked good at the start, but now he can't even qualify well.


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