Formula One: 2012 Season News and Discussion Thread **GP Brazil (page 16)**
05-02-2012, 09:19 AM
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Oh well, so much for that . . .
05-11-2012, 08:40 AM
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Spanish FP1:
1. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:24.430
2. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:24.808
3. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:24.912
4. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:24.996
5. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:25.120
6. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:25.187
7. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:25.217
8. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.252
9. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:25.285
10. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:25.339
11. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:25.367
12. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:25.433
13. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:25.539
14. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:25.607
15. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:25.918
16. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:26.226
17. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:26.297
18. Jules Bianchi France Force India-Mercedes 1:26.630
19. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault 1:42.745
20. Timo Glock Germany Marussia-Cosworth 1:28.267
21. Alexander Rossi United States Caterham-Renault 1:28.448
22. Charles Pic France Marussia-Cosworth 1:28.633
23. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:29.107
24. Dani Close Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:31.618
1. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:24.430
2. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:24.808
3. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:24.912
4. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:24.996
5. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:25.120
6. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:25.187
7. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:25.217
8. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.252
9. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:25.285
10. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:25.339
11. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:25.367
12. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:25.433
13. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:25.539
14. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:25.607
15. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:25.918
16. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:26.226
17. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:26.297
18. Jules Bianchi France Force India-Mercedes 1:26.630
19. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault 1:42.745
20. Timo Glock Germany Marussia-Cosworth 1:28.267
21. Alexander Rossi United States Caterham-Renault 1:28.448
22. Charles Pic France Marussia-Cosworth 1:28.633
23. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:29.107
24. Dani Close Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:31.618
05-11-2012, 10:06 AM
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Spanish FP2:
1. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:23.399
2. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:23.563
3. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:23.771
4. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:23.909
5. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:23.918
6. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:23.964
7. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:24.065
8. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:24.080
9. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:24.214
10. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:24.365
11. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:24.418
12. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:24.422
13. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:24.468
14. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:24.600
15. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:24.688
16. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:24.733
17. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:24.769
18. Bruno Senna Brazil Williams-Renault 1:25.047
19. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:26.296
20. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault 1:26.740
21. Timo Glock Germany Marussia-Cosworth 1:27.314
22. Charles Pic France Marussia-Cosworth 1:27.664
23. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:28.235
24. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth No Time
1. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:23.399
2. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:23.563
3. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:23.771
4. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:23.909
5. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:23.918
6. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:23.964
7. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:24.065
8. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:24.080
9. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:24.214
10. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:24.365
11. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:24.418
12. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:24.422
13. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:24.468
14. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:24.600
15. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:24.688
16. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:24.733
17. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:24.769
18. Bruno Senna Brazil Williams-Renault 1:25.047
19. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:26.296
20. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault 1:26.740
21. Timo Glock Germany Marussia-Cosworth 1:27.314
22. Charles Pic France Marussia-Cosworth 1:27.664
23. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:28.235
24. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth No Time
05-11-2012, 01:23 PM
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Mark Webber expects several top 10 qualifiers to sit out Q3 in Saturday's Spanish Grand Prix qualifying session amid suggestions that having as many fresh set of tyres for the race as possible will again be key to victory.
Webber's team-mate Sebastian Vettel won the last grand prix in Bahrain from pole, but was pushed hard by Kimi Raikkonen, as the Lotus driver conserved tyres in qualifying then charged up from 11th on the grid to finish a close second.
After setting the seventh fastest time in Friday afternoon practice, Webber reckoned this would be a weekend when many drivers prioritised race pace over qualifying position.
"It is always nice to finish qualifying with a few sets of tyres," said the Australian. "You always want to try and get through all three sessions with minimal damage on your tyres, and there will be no exception this weekend - we will see.
"We could see people sit out Q3, those that just get into Q3, and they will do that to save tyres."
Asked after practice in Spain if he felt qualifying or the race was the more important this weekend, Vettel replied: "Most important is points and points you get on Sunday.
"Surely I know the reason we go out on Saturday is to qualify as high as we can, ideally to get pole, so nothing has changed but we have seen that during the race there is a lot of things happening with the tyres. Where you start on Sunday does not automatically mean that is the position you will finish."
Webber's team-mate Sebastian Vettel won the last grand prix in Bahrain from pole, but was pushed hard by Kimi Raikkonen, as the Lotus driver conserved tyres in qualifying then charged up from 11th on the grid to finish a close second.
After setting the seventh fastest time in Friday afternoon practice, Webber reckoned this would be a weekend when many drivers prioritised race pace over qualifying position.
"It is always nice to finish qualifying with a few sets of tyres," said the Australian. "You always want to try and get through all three sessions with minimal damage on your tyres, and there will be no exception this weekend - we will see.
"We could see people sit out Q3, those that just get into Q3, and they will do that to save tyres."
Asked after practice in Spain if he felt qualifying or the race was the more important this weekend, Vettel replied: "Most important is points and points you get on Sunday.
"Surely I know the reason we go out on Saturday is to qualify as high as we can, ideally to get pole, so nothing has changed but we have seen that during the race there is a lot of things happening with the tyres. Where you start on Sunday does not automatically mean that is the position you will finish."
05-11-2012, 03:45 PM
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05-11-2012, 05:02 PM
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05-11-2012, 05:46 PM
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But that's the only way to preserve the short-lived Pirelli tires - do as little laps as possible. The past couple of races have repetitively shown that one extra tire stop is all that it takes to change from winning to losing.
05-12-2012, 06:05 AM
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not just one extra stop but one extra stop with a set of softs
05-12-2012, 07:46 AM
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Massa . . . .
YOU SUCK 
Oh, and SUCK IT RBR
Oh, and SUCK IT RBR
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05-12-2012, 01:15 PM
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05-12-2012, 03:25 PM
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Thanks to Pirelli, now that after made it to Q3, some of the contenders were laying back with their efforts in order to save tires.
"Double world champion Sebastian Vettel did make it through but didn't push for pole, preferring to save his tires for a race which is expected to be decided by tire strategy." according to CNN.
Very soon, no one will be fighting for the front row starting positions, to preserve his tires for the race.
"Double world champion Sebastian Vettel did make it through but didn't push for pole, preferring to save his tires for a race which is expected to be decided by tire strategy." according to CNN.
Very soon, no one will be fighting for the front row starting positions, to preserve his tires for the race.
05-12-2012, 04:44 PM
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I am hoping that the stat that sez no one has ever won from beyond the first row sticks tomorrow too. 
That'll teach 'em for trying that strategy
That'll teach 'em for trying that strategy
05-12-2012, 05:39 PM
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05-12-2012, 06:26 PM
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where'd you get that Dan?
05-12-2012, 07:08 PM
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ughhh and damn whoever put fuel in hamiltons car making it harder for me to get points!
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05-12-2012, 07:19 PM
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^^^^^
Sabotage.
Sabotage.
05-12-2012, 07:20 PM
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I'm gonna start picking Perez and Lotus-Renault.
05-13-2012, 05:15 AM
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I have McLaren too but will happily take the Ferrari 
points 
points
05-13-2012, 08:51 AM
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Way to go Maldonado!!!!!Great 70th birthday belated present to Sir Frank!!
Even a got a rare smile out of Williams!
1st victory since 2004
Someone updated Wiki within a minute of the finish to show the victory for Williams and Maldonaldo
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05-13-2012, 08:56 AM
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05-13-2012, 10:59 AM
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A Williams' win right after Sir William no longer in charge of the F1 team !?
05-13-2012, 05:02 PM
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05-13-2012, 09:20 PM
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Hasn't he stepped aside for his daughter to take over ?
05-13-2012, 11:21 PM
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Wow.
Additional footage:
Spanish Grand Prix: Williams crew injured in pit fire
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Three members of the Williams team were taken to hospital, while four Caterham mechanics were treated at the track's medical unit.
A Force India team member was also treated on the site after suffering smoke inhalation.
The incident is believed to involve a Kers unit, which sparked a fuel fire.
Caterham, who occupied the garage next to Williams in the Circuit de Catalunya pit lane, explained that one of those injured had a minor hand injury, with three others suffering respiratory issues.
A Williams spokesperson said: "Four team personnel were injured in the incident and subsequently taken to the medical centre. Three are now receiving treatment at local hospitals for their injuries, while the fourth has been released. The team will monitor their condition and ensure they receive the best possible care.
"The team, the fire services and the police are working together to determine the root cause of the fire."
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Three members of the Williams team were taken to hospital, while four Caterham mechanics were treated at the track's medical unit.
A Force India team member was also treated on the site after suffering smoke inhalation.
The incident is believed to involve a Kers unit, which sparked a fuel fire.
Caterham, who occupied the garage next to Williams in the Circuit de Catalunya pit lane, explained that one of those injured had a minor hand injury, with three others suffering respiratory issues.
A Williams spokesperson said: "Four team personnel were injured in the incident and subsequently taken to the medical centre. Three are now receiving treatment at local hospitals for their injuries, while the fourth has been released. The team will monitor their condition and ensure they receive the best possible care.
"The team, the fire services and the police are working together to determine the root cause of the fire."
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05-13-2012, 11:41 PM
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What was Maldonado's odds? 1:1000000???
Amazing drive by him. Great win for Williams. Hope everyone is alright.
Amazing drive by him. Great win for Williams. Hope everyone is alright.
05-14-2012, 05:40 AM
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05-14-2012, 05:46 AM
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar...215903493.html
Some post-fire photo's here, pretty intense flash fire.
05-14-2012, 09:15 AM
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05-14-2012, 09:32 AM
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Coughlan's a POS
05-14-2012, 10:12 AM
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^ He may be, but he's also extremely knowledgeable.
I think alot of their recent success is due to Coughlan. Sam Michael although a nice guy was not as technically centric view. I don't know for sure but I'd bet Coughlan did whole house review and rearranged priorities for technical objectives. This year's car out of the box has shown more promise than the last few seasons.
I think alot of their recent success is due to Coughlan. Sam Michael although a nice guy was not as technically centric view. I don't know for sure but I'd bet Coughlan did whole house review and rearranged priorities for technical objectives. This year's car out of the box has shown more promise than the last few seasons.
05-14-2012, 10:53 AM
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I don't know exactly what the secret to Wiliams' current successes are but I am very happy to see it. I miss seeing the privateers at the pointy end of the grid, particularly Sir Frank. I'd have to agree with your other views as the demise of Michael and the use of Coughlan sure seemed to have made a difference.
05-14-2012, 11:48 AM
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Biggest upset since Panis won in Monaco for Ligier? Fisichella winning Brazil for Jordan? Vettel winning Monza for Toro Rosso?
05-14-2012, 01:29 PM
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great race by maldonado! He def showed the other peeps what saving tires in quali will end up resulting it.
I think I got this season figured out in F1. DONT pick a driver who has already been on pole for a previous race
I think I got this season figured out in F1. DONT pick a driver who has already been on pole for a previous race
05-14-2012, 04:42 PM
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05-14-2012, 07:18 PM
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