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Old 03-30-2012, 10:34 PM
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i still hope that Kubica will recover and join SF next year
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I'd love to see Kubica back but am somewhat doubtful he will ever return to an F1 car at the pointy end of the grid.
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Nico's theme song

Well put by some journalist on PlanetF1 with regard to Nico's (lack of) driving skills:
His race was like a Talking Heads song: "You might find yourself in a beautiful car, in a beautiful race. And you might ask yourself, well, how did I get here?"
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
I'd love to see Kubica back but am somewhat doubtful he will ever return to an F1 car at the pointy end of the grid.
Sadly I agree with that, some new talent has moved into F1 in the last couple seasons that are showing promise.
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China FP1:


1. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:37.106
2. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:38.116
3. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:38.316
4. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:38.584
5. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:38.911
6. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:38.977
7. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:39.198
8. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:39.199
9. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:39.748
10. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:39.768
11. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:40.056
12. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:40.153
13. Valterri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:40.298
14. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:40.328
15. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:40.540
16. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:41.071
17. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:41.204
18. Timo Glock Germany Marussia-Cosworth 1:42.330
19. Gledo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:42.521
20. Jules Bianchi France Force India-Mercedes 1:44.118
21. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:44.227
22. Charles Pic France Marussia-Cosworth 1:44.500
23. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1:47.204
24. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:50.465
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China FP2:


1. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:35.973
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.145
3. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:36.160
4. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:36.433
5. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:36.617
6. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.711
7. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:36.956
8. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:36.966
9. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:37.191
10. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:37.316
11. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:37.417
12. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:37.616
13. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:37.836
14. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:37.930
15. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:37.972
16. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:38.176
17. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:38.293
18. Bruno Senna Brazil Williams-Renault 1:38.783
19. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:38.990
20. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault 1:39.346
21. Timo Glock Germany Marussia-Cosworth 1:39.651
22. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:40.343
23. Charles Pic France Marussia-Cosworth 1:40.753
24. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1:41.125
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China FP3:

1. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.940
2. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.063
3. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:36.389
4. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:36.512
5. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:36.635
6. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:36.765
7. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:36.781
8. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:36.880
9. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:37.039
10. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:37.061
11. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:37.237
12. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:37.274
13. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:37.288
14. Bruno Senna Brazil Williams-Renault 1:37.425
15. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:37.465
16. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:37.493
17. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:37.628
18. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:37.831
19. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault 1:38.701
20. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:39.198
21. Timo Glock Germany Marussia-Cosworth 1:39.796
22. Charles Pic France Marussia-Cosworth 1:40.048
23. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1:41.263
24. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:41.499
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qualifying in a couple of minutes.
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Vettel can't bust into Q3.
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interesting grid to say the least.
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Looks like Ross Brawn has finally made his F-duct working perfectly. Well done.
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
Vettel can't bust into Q3.
Don't remind me

Can only image his response getting back to the garage
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Quite the race with some good battles
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Raikkonen 2nd to 12th in 2 laps. WTF
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^ I feel better knowing that since Vettel lost 3 places in a couple laps as well. This season Pirelli's really must really fall off fast!

At least he finished 5th
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yeah, but if my calculations are correct, you're still in with 5 points over me.
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Originally Posted by Legend2TL
^ I feel better knowing that since Vettel lost 3 places in a couple laps as well. This season Pirelli's really must really fall off fast!

At least he finished 5th
Vettel did a good job to finish the race where he did. He was going nowhere at the first stint, so the team had to change strategy, which resulted in a very long final stint.
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Bahrain FP1:


1. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:33.570
2. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:33.877
3. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:34.150
4. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:34.249
5. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:34.277
6. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:34.344
7. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:34.483
8. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:34.552
9. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:34.609
10. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:34.847
11. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:35.024
12. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:35.268
13. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:35.436
14. Valterri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:35.497
15. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:35.719
16. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:35.929
17. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:36.195
18. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:36.330
19. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault 1:36.484
20. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:36.591
21. Charles Pic France Marussia-Cosworth 1:37.467
22. Timo Glock Germany Marussia-Cosworth 1:38.006
23. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:38.877
24. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1:39.996
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Bahrain FP2:

OS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:32.816
2. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:32.262
3. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:33.525
4. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:33.747
5. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:33.862
6. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:34.246
7. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:34.411
8. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:34.449
9. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:34.615
10. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:34.893
11. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:34.895
12. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:34.941
13. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:35.183
14. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:35.229
15. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:35.459
16. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault 1:35.913
17. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:35.968
18. Bruno Senna Brazil Williams-Renault 1:36.169
19. Timo Glock Germany Marussia-Cosworth 1:36.587
20. Charles Pic France Marussia-Cosworth 1:37.803
21. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:37.812
22. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1:39.649
23. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes No Time
24. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes No Time
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Hackers take down F1 site as Bahrain protest

The computer hacking group Anonymous has successfully taken down the Web site of Formula One with a Distributed Denial Of Service (DDOS) attack. The group conducted the attack in protest to this weekend’s Formula 1 race in the Kingdom of Bahrain

Anonymous announced in a press released that it carried out the hack to draw attention to the “incredible human rights abuses of the Bahrain regime” and called the upcoming Grand Prix Formula One race “despicable”. The internet attack comes just hours after tens of thousands of people took to the streets of Bahrain to protest this weekend’s Formula One race.

Formula One is just the latest target in a clash between Bahrain’s Shiite citizens and the state’s Sunni ruling class that has been ongoing for months. So far at least 50 people have been killed in the anti-government uprising.

The attack on Formula One’s Web site could be just the tip of the iceberg for Anonymous as the group has pledged to “wreck anything else of yours we can find on the internet.”

Anonymous is calling for drivers to boycott this weekend’s race, but so far we’ve yet to hear of anyone planning to do so.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/hackers-...-web-site.html
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MANAMA, Bahrain—Bahraini opposition groups claimed Saturday that a man was killed during clashes with security forces, threatening to sharply escalate the Gulf nation's unrest as officials struggle under the world spotlight as hosts of the Formula One Grand Prix. Authorities opened an investigation in a bid to defuse tensions.

At least 50 people have died in the unrest since February 2011 in the longest-running street battles of the Arab Spring. Bahrain's Shiite majority seeks to break the near monopoly on power by the ruling Sunni dynasty, which has close ties to the West.

Persistent protests have left the country's rulers struggling to keep attention on the buildup to Sunday's Formula One race—Bahrain's premier international event. It was called off last year amid security fears and Bahrain's leaders lobbied hard to hold this year's event in efforts to portray stability and mend the country's international image.

A statement by Bahrain's Interior Ministry said a probe was under way, but gave no other immediate details. The death, however, was likely to intensify a wave of expected protests to coincide with the Formula One.

The body was found in an area west of the capital Manama, where clashes broke out after a massive protest march Friday. Opposition factions said riot police and demonstrators were engaged in running skirmishes around the village of Shakhura, about five miles west of the capital Manama and known for its burial mounds dating back more than 5,000 years.

The area is 12 miles from the Grand Prix circuit, which is surrounded by desert and under round-the-clock security watch.

The Interior Ministry said the man who died was identified as Salah Abbas Habib Musa, 36, and the case was "being treated as a homicide." The ministry statement didn't give a cause of death but said investigators found "a wound" on the left side of his body.

Social media sites have urged more demonstrations as part of the opposition's effort to use the world attention from the race to press their demands for a greater political voice.

Sporadic clashes broke out Saturday in Shiite villages west of Manama, where plumes of black smoke rose from tire blockades set ablaze by protesters. On the main highway from Manama—used by many F1 teams and fans—work crews tore down protest banners with images of people killed during the uprising.

"We demand democracy," and, "Down, Down Hamad," chanted some of the tens of thousands of opposition supporters Friday in reference to King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa, as they massed on the main highway leading out of Manama. Bahrain's monarchy is the main backer of the F1 race, and the crown prince owns the rights to the event.

Hours before the march, Bahrain's most senior Shiite cleric, Sheik Isa Qassim, delivered a strongly worded sermon that denounced authorities for making dozens of arrests of suspected dissidents in recent weeks. He said the intensified crackdowns before the F1 event were "as if we are entering a war" in the strategic kingdom, which is home to the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet.

Shiites account for about 70 percent of Bahrain's population of just over half a million people, but claim they face widespread discrimination and lack opportunities granted to the Sunni minority. The country's leaders have offered some reforms, but the opposition says they fall short of Shiite demands for a greater voice in the country's affairs and an elected government.

The unrest has put Washington into an awkward position. U.S. officials have called for efforts to reopen political dialogue in Bahrain, but are careful not to press too hard against the nation's leadership and possibly jeopardize its important military ties.

In Washington on Friday, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland expressed the Obama administration's concern about "the increase in violence in Bahrain, especially leading up to the Formula One race."

"These are unproductive, unhelpful acts in building the kind of meaningful trust and reconciliation that is needed in Bahrain," she told reporters. "We're calling for, again, Bahraini government respect for universal human rights and demonstrators' restraint in ensuring that they are peaceful."
Nice to see Bernie still making good in these tough economic times.
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Double podium finish for Lotus

Vettel first :meh:
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Never seen a field this close before in F1.
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Forward Roll Hoop test

I agree this could be beneficial to a driver in the odd circumstance of a tire flying at him but isn't that what the tethers are for? Otherwise, these would look whacked on an F1 car.

http://vimeo.com/40140808
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While it's fantastic that they are continuing the evolution of driver safety I don't see how they could reasonably implement that without severely affecting the drivers field of vision.
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I agree. I'll tell you, I did not expect that tire to fly at that hoop that fast. Jeezus.
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Agreed. If they want to build a mockup, they should at least build something that is feasible.
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Kimi Radio: HOLY!! Crap. What the hell was that?

Lotus: It was a wheel Kimi.

Kimi Radio: I never saw it. I can't see anything.

Lotus: Keep pushing Kimi.
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
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But this is probably more accurate.

Kimi: ...
Lotus: You were hit by a wheel! Are you okay?
Kimi: ...
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Bahrain GP 2012: Gary Anderson on Kimi Raikkonen's display

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17816565

Interesting commentary from Gary Anderson (BBC F1, former technical director at Jordon F1)
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Webbo to Ferrari?

PlanetF1 is reporting of a rumor that Webber is off to the land of the Prancing Horse next year for a 1 year deal. Let's see if that happens but mixed feelings about that.
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
I agree this could be beneficial to a driver in the odd circumstance of a tire flying at him but isn't that what the tethers are for? Otherwise, these would look whacked on an F1 car.

http://vimeo.com/40140808
I actually saw a testing with a plastic bubble type thing. I'll look for it again but they wont do this, it blocks the field of vision!

edit: found it
http://vimeo.com/26098946

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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
PlanetF1 is reporting of a rumor that Webber is off to the land of the Prancing Horse next year for a 1 year deal. Let's see if that happens but mixed feelings about that.
why him?? I see other people being more effective and get someone younger like Perez!
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maybe the team believes it needs an older, more experienced driver to help them sort out their car's development.
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Whoa, that'd be unexpected/out of the blue if Webber went to Ferrari.
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I'd like to see someone younger go to Ferrari.
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If Webber is in, who's the one in Ferrari gonna go ? Massa ?
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a 1 year contract is usually offered as a stop-gap measure for a team while it waits for another driver's contract with his current team to expire. My bet: Perez's contract w/ Sauber is the sticking point. He'd be great in the red car.
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Webber denies Ferrari link

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