FIA has gone crazy
05-18-2006, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by F-C
There seems to be a small chance that the rules might still be changed. Who knows what kind of politics are being played behind the scenes. Ferrari=Agnelli=Mafia
One reason Ferrari likes the rule is that they not being a "major" manufacturer will be allowed to sell their engines to as many teams as they like, allowing them to have lots of feedback were they to need to change the engine within the rules...
The fact Red Bull was using their engine this year allowed them to home in on the piston issues quickly this year, now their engines are reliable and one of the strongest in the field. The latter is based on straight line speed BUT may be due to aero as well.
08-07-2006, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ITV
Formula 1 will impose a freeze on engine development a year earlier than planned after the FIA and the GPMA agreed terms to introduce homologation after this year’s Chinese Grand Prix.
In a statement issued by the sport’s governing body, following a meeting between FIA president Max Mosley, out-going BMW director Professor Dr Burkhard Goeschel and Dr Juergen Reul of the GPMA, it has been agreed to bring forward the engine-freeze in the interests of saving costs in Formula 1.
This means that teams will freeze all development of their 2.4-litre V8 engines as of October 23, 2006.
The engine homologation is likely to save the manufacturers a significant proportion of their development budgets - estimated to be as much as US$1bn on essentially lame-duck engine programmes - instead of facing a year’s intensive development only to return to 2006 specifications anyway.
The freeze is set to last until 2009 whence the FIA plans to introduce revolutionary technical regulations.
These will be designed to promote energy-saving techniques into Formula 1 – which the governing body intends to outline in December of this year.
During the period between 2006 and ’09 no changes will be allowed to the homologated specifications, except where the FIA deems it ‘fair and equitable’, or to retune the units down to an imposed rev-limit of 19,000rpm.
The FIA also announced that the GPMA plans to set-up a working group to assess a future blueprint for technical regulations with a view to finding more efficient to use available energy which may lead to a change in the lay-out of future engine formats.
Monday’s news brings to an end months of wrangling over the details of the engine freeze between the FIA and the GPMA.
“As a result of the above the FIA and GPMA are now in full agreement about the future of the FIA Formula One World Championship,” read the statement.
In a statement issued by the sport’s governing body, following a meeting between FIA president Max Mosley, out-going BMW director Professor Dr Burkhard Goeschel and Dr Juergen Reul of the GPMA, it has been agreed to bring forward the engine-freeze in the interests of saving costs in Formula 1.
This means that teams will freeze all development of their 2.4-litre V8 engines as of October 23, 2006.
The engine homologation is likely to save the manufacturers a significant proportion of their development budgets - estimated to be as much as US$1bn on essentially lame-duck engine programmes - instead of facing a year’s intensive development only to return to 2006 specifications anyway.
The freeze is set to last until 2009 whence the FIA plans to introduce revolutionary technical regulations.
These will be designed to promote energy-saving techniques into Formula 1 – which the governing body intends to outline in December of this year.
During the period between 2006 and ’09 no changes will be allowed to the homologated specifications, except where the FIA deems it ‘fair and equitable’, or to retune the units down to an imposed rev-limit of 19,000rpm.
The FIA also announced that the GPMA plans to set-up a working group to assess a future blueprint for technical regulations with a view to finding more efficient to use available energy which may lead to a change in the lay-out of future engine formats.
Monday’s news brings to an end months of wrangling over the details of the engine freeze between the FIA and the GPMA.
“As a result of the above the FIA and GPMA are now in full agreement about the future of the FIA Formula One World Championship,” read the statement.
08-07-2006, 12:47 PM
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and soon there will be more technology in nascar 
10-24-2007, 09:33 AM
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10/24/2007
Engine development in Formula 1 is to be totally frozen for a period of 10 years from 2008, following a meeting of the FIA Motor Sport World Council on Wednesday.
The sport’s governing body is believed to have pushed through this latest measure to promote alternative and more environmentally-friendly methods of increasing the performance of F1 cars.
Development work on V8 power plants had been restricted since 2007, although certain changes were allowed to be made to the units under the rules.
However next year all modifications will be banned with the caveat that a change to the unit can be made after five years if it gains unanimous approval and precedes a two-year notice period.
“There will be a total freeze on engine development for a period of 10 years, starting from 2008,” an FIA statement said.
“A change can be made after five years but only with the unanimous agreement of all stakeholders and following a further two-year notice period.
“Total freeze means that there will be no exceptions for development of certain parts of the engine, as is the case under the current regulations.”
Engine development in Formula 1 is to be totally frozen for a period of 10 years from 2008, following a meeting of the FIA Motor Sport World Council on Wednesday.
The sport’s governing body is believed to have pushed through this latest measure to promote alternative and more environmentally-friendly methods of increasing the performance of F1 cars.
Development work on V8 power plants had been restricted since 2007, although certain changes were allowed to be made to the units under the rules.
However next year all modifications will be banned with the caveat that a change to the unit can be made after five years if it gains unanimous approval and precedes a two-year notice period.
“There will be a total freeze on engine development for a period of 10 years, starting from 2008,” an FIA statement said.
“A change can be made after five years but only with the unanimous agreement of all stakeholders and following a further two-year notice period.
“Total freeze means that there will be no exceptions for development of certain parts of the engine, as is the case under the current regulations.”
I don't understand, is the FIA trying to push the teams to develop alternative power systems/energy regenerative systems/??? But where are the regulations for such systems, or is it an open formula?
I wonder what the manufacturers have to say about this.
10-24-2007, 09:52 AM
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A ten year freeze is ludicrous. Obviously the "framework" reports that were prepared and published earlier this year had about zero weight to them if this freeze comes to pass. I can only hope that this means the 2.4L V8 configuration is frozen for a decade but other configuration will be allowed or effectively encouraged.
I actually sort of liked the idea of a spec ECU and a fuel flow limiter as long as the remainder of the engine rules were fairly open.
I actually sort of liked the idea of a spec ECU and a fuel flow limiter as long as the remainder of the engine rules were fairly open.
10-24-2007, 04:04 PM
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Uh oh- 10 year freeze = the ol' Cosworth DFV days when every car except Ferrari, had one. What's the impetus of a manfr to spend millions making an engine that will be obsolete in the racing world? There will be no spillover into the production side a la VTEC and it's quite possible the production side will pass the racing side! Stoooooooooooopid stoooooooooopid idea. I loved the days when you could tell what car was coming w/o even looking up b/c you remembered the sound of the Honda V10, the Ferrari V12, the Benneton V8, etc. Damn FIA
10-24-2007, 04:50 PM
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For the record, I think this is gay!
10-24-2007, 05:43 PM
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^now there's a thought filled, insightful comment 
10-25-2007, 09:08 AM
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The manufacturers have too little influence on the series, everything is monopolized by the FIA, or more specifically, Max
. There needs to be more balance in how things are run, like in MotoGP, where the manufacturers and the series both work together.
The manufacturers have too little influence on the series, everything is monopolized by the FIA, or more specifically, Max
. There needs to be more balance in how things are run, like in MotoGP, where the manufacturers and the series both work together.
x 100046234523405 ^^
04-07-2009, 07:53 AM
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Max Mosley has revealed plans for a "world engine" that in 2013 would be capable of powering FIA categories including formula one, world rally and F2.
On a visit last weekend to the rally of Portugal he said: "It would work in turbocharged form for F1 and then all the way down to naturally aspirated form for the lesser categories and in a turbocharged or naturally aspirated form for the world rally championship."
The FIA president said the planning phase of the project is in its "very early days", with the car manufacturers to be involved.
In the case of F1, he said "peripheral areas" of the engine will be open fordevelopment, including KERS and other energy recovery systems to be introduced.
Asked for further information, he said energy could be collected not only from braking heat as at present, but "from exhausts and even from the cooling system".
Referring to the universal FIA engine, he added: "If we can - and I'm not sure we can - find a way of combining all forms of motor sport in that system then this would be useful because of the huge sums spent on motor sport."
On a visit last weekend to the rally of Portugal he said: "It would work in turbocharged form for F1 and then all the way down to naturally aspirated form for the lesser categories and in a turbocharged or naturally aspirated form for the world rally championship."
The FIA president said the planning phase of the project is in its "very early days", with the car manufacturers to be involved.
In the case of F1, he said "peripheral areas" of the engine will be open fordevelopment, including KERS and other energy recovery systems to be introduced.
Asked for further information, he said energy could be collected not only from braking heat as at present, but "from exhausts and even from the cooling system".
Referring to the universal FIA engine, he added: "If we can - and I'm not sure we can - find a way of combining all forms of motor sport in that system then this would be useful because of the huge sums spent on motor sport."
04-07-2009, 12:12 PM
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another f'ing change. LEAVE THE GOD'DAMED SPORT ALONE!!!
motor sports, governed by the FIA.
04-07-2009, 08:20 PM
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It's getting more and more crazier.
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