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Old 10-18-2010, 10:01 AM
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DTM: News and Discussion Thread

The DTM is officially headed for the United States.

The 12-race US-based championship for the extreme DTM cars will begin in 2013 -- one year after GRAND-AM's flagship Daytona Prototype class undergoes a serious remodeling project -- that will serve as a sprint racing support show for GRAND-AM, NASCAR Sprint Cup and the NASCAR Nationwide Series.

“Only days after BMW officially announced its commitment to the DTM from 2012, this is more good news concerning the future of the DTM”, said Hans Werner Aufrecht, chairman of the ITR group that runs the DTM.

“Internationalisation has been our goal, in order to ensure that cars to DTM regulations can be used in more countries all over the world. We have had very constructive talks with the GRAND-AM organisation and we are very excited with this new partnership.”

GRAND-AM president Tom Bledsoe says he expects the new venture with the DTM to serve as a major boost for his series.

“We are proud to forge these new relationships with the many manufacturers choosing to embrace the DTM vision, and we look forward to welcoming these exciting cars to the USA. With these announcements, we can begin planning with our media partners, race tracks and teams. The addition of a DTM-style sprint race will increase the attraction for our fans and help grow all GRAND-AM series.”

Many questions (and doubts) have surfaced about the DTM+GRAND-AM+NASCAR partnership, with this author receiving a steady stream of correspondence on the topic. Most of those inquiries centered on the belief that this new partnership is the first step by NASCAR to launch a Sprint Cup series in Europe, but SPEED.com has learned that the initial contact between the parties came from the DTM reaching out to GRAND-AM, and not from NASCAR to the DTM.

The main question to be answered now is how the US DTM series will be populated. Through discussions with parties involved with the 2013 series, we understand the most likely scenario involves factory involvement from Audi, Mercedes-Benz and BMW, with an undetermined number of existing DTM teams running satellite programs in the USA on behalf of the DTM manufacturers.

The German DTM series currently serves as a playground for Audi and Mercedez-Benz (BMW will join for 2012), where full factory racing teams fight for the championship while a number of privately owned teams campaign DTM cars with some level of factory assistance. The same model is expected for the 2013 US DTM series, giving the three marques the chance to battle each other on American soil while completing the rest of the grid with US-based teams.

Details are still somewhat vague, but the opportunity appears to exist for GRAND-AM teams to expand into the US DTM series provided they reach an agreement with Audi, Mercedes-Benz or BMW.

Whether the US DTM series would be open to teams outside of GRAND-AM and NASCAR is unknown, but the fact that the DTM organizers expect to see the new series share the 2013 calendar with the NASCAR Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series could draw the interest from more than just sportscar and stock car entrants.

Chip Ganassi, owner of a two-car NASCAR Sprint Cup team and the 2010 GRAND-AM Rolex Series Daytona Prototype-championship winning team, says that running a DTM program could be of interest to teams in a variety of different series.

"I would think you will get some cross pollination from teams. The good news is that they are trying to get more factory involvement around [GRAND-AM]."

Robert Davis, head of Mazda's North American motorsports programs, believes the inclusion of a DTM sprint series alongside the Rolex Series would benefit everyone involved with GRAND-AM.

"I look at this announcement as a way to grow the overall image and impact and marketability of GRAND-AM. Having Audi and Mercedes and now BMW running on the same weekends with us is not going to hurt GRAND-AM at all. If anything, it will bring out more people who are passionate about our kind of racing. The guys at GRAND-AM are pretty smart about thinking those kinds of things through from the beginning. We don't know a lot about this partnership yet -- it's still early days -- but I think you'll see [GRAND-AM] is going to take care of its entrants while they add something exciting like the DTM to the calendar."

Davis, whose factory Mazda RX-8s claimed the 2010 Rolex GT manufacturer and driver championships, says that concerns about the DTM taking the spotlight away from GRAND-AM are premature.

"If it's good for GRAND-AM, it's good for us. Any way to make road racing a higher profile sport in America is what we need. I watch all of the DTM races and they are well attended, well run and are presented like a premier organization. Those are only positives to be associated with GRAND-AM. Bring 'em on."
Nice that DTM is coming here, but it's going to look real strange when you have some of the most beautiful race cars on the planet sharing track space with the most ugly race cars on the planet.

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Talk about culture clashes at the DTM-NASCAB events. German luxury car wine & cheese set meets blue collar beer belly crowd.
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Sweet!!!!!!

I might have to plan a trip down to the US to catch a race.
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my brother needs to make a pitch to get the DTM to the Glen.
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my brother needs to make a pitch to get the DTM to the Glen.
That is what I was thinking when I read this yesterday. If it comes to the Glen = trip down to the Glen to visit and catch some wicked racing.
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DTM should be an interesting addition to the US racing scene.
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It's pretty obvious that if DTM is going to show up at NASCAB or Grand Am races, the Glen would be an obvious candidate for a race.
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I remember I saw this race on speed one time, it was pretty fun. All cars were either using the R8 chassis or I believe E63? BMW is suppose to come back in 2012 also, which should make the race more interesting
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It's pretty obvious that if DTM is going to show up at NASCAB or Grand Am races, the Glen would be an obvious candidate for a race.
I hope you are right!
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Thumbs up DTM: Series Coming to North America

This is awesome!

From here: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...-north-america

If you’re a fan of European racing, you’re certainly familiar with the Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters (German Touring Car Masters) series, or as it’s more commonly referred to, the DTM.

Like our own NASCAR Sprint Cup series, its concept is relatively simple: race V-8-equipped, purpose-built cars that consumers are familiar with at tracks across the country. That’s where the similarity between NASCAR and DTM ends, however.

DTM cars use production car roofs and come with functional lighting, making them closer to “real” cars than NASCAR models. Races are held on road courses, not ovals, and the race distances are much shorter (typically 170 kilometers, or 105 miles) with two mandatory pit stops.

Today, the DTM is contested between the Audi A5, the BMW M3 and the Mercedes-Benz C-Class Coupe, meaning that manufacturers want as much exposure as possible for their wares. One way to get this is to take the DTM series global, which is exactly what is happening.

Thanks to a just-announced deal with NASCAR and Grand-Am (which will become United SportsCar Racing in 2014), DTM will likely be coming to the United States for more than just exhibition races. Plans are already in place to export the DTM series to Japan, where it will run in conjunction with the Japanese Super GT series.

Don’t look to DVR the North American DTM series any time soon, however. Technical regulations still need to be sorted, and the North American series still needs the buy-in of participating manufacturers. If all goes well (which it rarely does in racing), the new series could debut as early as the 2015 season.

From our point of view, there’s no such thing as too much racing. We say bring the series to North America, as it’s likely to attract fans that aren’t watching NASCAR, Grand Am or ALMS today.
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I think the more interesting news is that DTM and SuperGT will running the same technical specs.
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https://sportscar365.com/other-serie...rmed-for-2019/

Aston Martin will join the DTM grid as a manufacturer in 2019, with a program run by AF Racing AG and R-Motorsport.

The British marque had been tipped for a possible entry into the German tin-top series as a replacement for Mercedes-Benz, which is leaving at the end of this season.

Swiss company AF Racing, which runs the R-Motorsport operation that recently entered the Blancpain GT Series with a pair of Aston Martin Vantage GT3s, will enter the championship under license from Aston Martin.

The announcement comes three months after AF Racing entered a business partnership with Mercedes DTM team HWA AG, fueling rumors of an Aston Martin DTM project.

HWA will be responsible for the development and construction of up to four Vantage-based Aston Martin silhouette cars ahead of the program’s projected debut next year.

“We are pleased to welcome the engagement in DTM of AF Racing AG, an enduring partner of our company,” said Aston Martin CEO Andy Palmer.

“This project shows the increasing interest in the Aston Martin brand from leading private teams such as R-Motorsport.

“Alongside our factory investment with Aston Martin Racing into the World Endurance Championship with the Vantage GTE, and our Aston Martin Racing commitments to customers and official partner teams in GT3 and GT4, the DTM entry of R-Motorsport provides an important extension to our other motorsport program.”

A statement issued by AF Racing said that the “internationalization” of DTM was a prerequisite for the team’s commitment to the series.

It stated that the new Class 1 regulations, which come into force next year for DTM and Super GT, was attractive because it could enable Aston Martin-branded cars to run outside Germany and Japan.

“The DTM entry of R-Motorsport under a design license from Aston Martin is a milestone of the development of our company”, said Dr. Florian Kamelger, co-owner of AF Racing AG and team principal of R-Motorsport.

“The DTM offers first class sport and is close to the fans, and is the ideal presentation stage for us.”

Existing DTM manufacturers Audi and BMW, which have already confirmed their DTM entries for 2019, have both welcomed the addition of Aston Martin to the grid.

Meanwhile, DTM boss Gerhard Berger added that the news marked a “historic event” for the series, and that the growing internationalization of DTM will have “signaling effects for other manufacturers”.
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Didn't see a standalone DTM thread...
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This is good news. I can't wait to see an Aston on steroids. How competitive is a different story. Hard to expect them to be competitive against the budgets from Audi and BMW.
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End of an era with Merc going away.

30yrs! That's quite the history...
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I remember watching it back in the day with Bernd Schneider. Great times.
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Yes!! Loved Bernd.

It stuck because i was like wtf name is that?!

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