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2018 F1 launch dates so far

Williams: February 15
Red Bull: February 19
Sauber: February 20
Renault: February 20
Mercedes: February 22
Ferrari: February 22
McLaren: February 23
Toro Rosso: February 25

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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...day-as-ferrari

Formula 1 world champion Mercedes has revealed the launch date for its 2018 challenger, the W09.

Mercedes will unveil the new car on February 22, the same day as 2017 title rival Ferrari plans to reveal its '18 single-seater and one day ahead of McLaren, which announced its launch date on Thursday as well.

The Mercedes launch will again take place at Silverstone, with shakedown runs held before an unveiling event at lunchtime that will be streamed online.

Pre-season testing kicks off in Spain on February 26.

The W09 will be the car with which Mercedes will defend its drivers' and constructors' championships and with which it will attempt to secure its fifth consecutive double, having won all titles since the start of the hybrid era in 2014.

Four-time world champion Lewis Hamilton will again be partnered by Valtteri Bottas at the squad.
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https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/h...-2018-car.html

McLaren will unveil their car for 2018 next month, the team have confirmed. The wraps will come off the MCL33 on February 23, shortly before the start of pre-season testing in Barcelona.
The new machine will be the first McLaren to feature a Renault power unit, the British team having switched to the French engine supplier following three disappointing seasons with Honda.

McLaren are hoping the change will allow drivers Fernando Alonso and Stoffel Vandoorne to lift the team back up the grid after the Woking squad finished a lowly ninth in the 2017 constructors' standings.

Ferrari are the only other team to have officially announced a launch date so far. The Scuderia will reveal their new car a day before McLaren on February 22. The first pre-season test starts in Spain the following week, on February 26.
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New McLaren engine manufacturer, same result.
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No damn way, McLaren will move up the grid for sure.
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I can see McLaren going ahead of Force India and Renault, but it's doubtful that they will beat Red Bull.
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Agreed, they seemed to have a well sorted chassis last season, just didn't have the power to back it up. Alonso put in a few good drives,despite the gap in outright power.
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The new McLaren-Renault F1 cars have ZERO track testing time, just like the debut of the ill-performed McLaren-Honda.
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^^^^ you mean just like every other car on the grid in 2018
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Late renault switch gave mclaren engine packaging problems tim goss

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The McLaren F1 Team’s technical director Tim Goss admits the team were presented with challenges following the Woking-based outfit’s decision to switch from Honda to Renault power in 2018, but the chassis design has not been compromised.

Goss said the rear of the car needed some adaptation due to the different configuration of the Renault power unit compared to its Honda predecessor, particularly in the where the turbocharger is located, but everything has been quickly redesigned to fit the new engine ahead of the new season.

“The Renault architecture is very different,” said Goss to Motorsport.com. “You have two fundamental engine architectures out there.

“You have the Mercedes/Honda approach, and you have got the Ferrari/Renault approach. Essentially the difference comes down to where the turbocharger sits.

“The Mercedes/Honda approach is you have the compressor on the front of the engine, the turbine on the back of the engine and the MGU-H sat in the middle of the V. The Ferrari/Renault approach is that you have got the compressor sat at the back of the engine, the MGU-H behind it and the turbine behind that.

“They require a very different approach to your chassis and your gearbox, and now we have had recent experience of both we can see there are pros and cons of both.”

The packaging of the Renault power unit has required McLaren to do some adaptation to the car, with Goss revealing that the fuel tank, gearbox and rear suspension have all been altered to accept the new unit.

“We had to reconfigure the chassis, change the cooling system and reconfigure the gearbox to make it fit,” said Goss. “But we’ve managed that in time without any significant compromise to the chassis. It was quite a big change.

“The Renault engine will sit further forward in the chassis. With the Honda you had the air intake that had to come down into the front of the engine, and that volume came out of your fuel cell. So as a result, the chassis was longer.

“But then what you hadn’t got was a turbocharger sat off the back of the engine, which then gets in the way of your inboard suspension. So you ended up with a much easier task at the back of the engine.

“When you move to a Renault, suddenly the front of the engine becomes a lot simpler and as the result we win back a substantial amount of fuel volume. You can push the engine forwards and the aerodynamic blockage of the engine and exhaust is considerably better, because that has moved forwards behind the chassis.

“But then you have a turbocharger that is sat in the bell housing and, as a result, to accommodate that you have to redesign your rear suspension internals and lengthen the gearbox.

“But we’ve done a fantastic job. A really fantastic job. It was very, very intense. We had pretty much two weeks of very intense effort to get it sorted, but we knew pretty much what we needed to do.”

Goss says that McLaren would not have been able to make all the relevant changes in time had the decision to switch to Renault was made any later than it was.

“There are things I love about the Renault approach and there are things that frustrate me a little bit, but in the end we were fortunate that the decision to move from one engine to another was made just in time,” said Goss.

“It couldn’t have been made any later.”
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No damn way, McLaren will move up the grid for sure.
Great. They'll pass up the non-competitive teams.

Wake me up when McLaren is McLaren again
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can you update the OP?
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Renault launch on same day as Sauber/Alfa ... 2/20/2018....

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Only two more weeks till the first car reveal
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Anyone seen any dates for Red Bull, Force India, and Haas?
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Red Bull - Feb 19

Now just to find Force India and Haas.
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Very sneaky. Using a black background to hide the halo. Otherwise, I like the clean lines and color scheme. The covering around the rear suspension arms appear new.
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Looks like it has a bit of a shark fin as well, not the billboard from last year, but still a slight dorsal fin there.
Halo looks almost the same as it did when scabbed on to the 2017 spec cars.
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Looks like it has a bit of a shark fin as well, not the billboard from last year, but still a slight dorsal fin there.
Halo looks almost the same as it did when scabbed on to the 2017 spec cars.
I didn't even notice the fin. Too bad it's still there.
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Stef over at Jalop is of the opinion that the Halo doesn't look too bad .... personally, I'm not sold yet .... and all the pics and the vid make it feel like they're still trying to hide it ...

Haas Shows Off The First Halo F1 Car And It Doesn't Look Bad After All



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^ Terrible from the side profile shot, IMO.

A few more of the VF-18



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Hoping that is a light gray and not white on the car. I liked the battleship gray color better before.
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I prefer it all white. It's hard to make out the dark bits.
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Know it's not PC, but wish car reveals where still like they were 50 years ago

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RBR in launch livery.
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Good god. I now see why Max was complaining so much about the "ugly" halo....

Does the wheelbase for 2018 look longer?

Good graphic at bottom of this story (in Hungarian) for a comparison of the RB13 and RB14. Looks like they bumped the front axle forward a bit.

https://hu.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-rb13-vs-red-bull-rb14-oldalnezetbol-a-kulonbsegek-f1-2018/









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These front wings are getting absurd. I think it looks twice as complicated as last years.

I would really like to see Red Bull keep the digital camo livery though but unfortunately it will only be for testing. I personally think it looks really good.
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I think the reveal livery looks great on the new RB.
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Sauber Alfa Romeo: new Ferrari engines vs. 1 year old units like last year.



I like it! I'd love to see this team further up the pecking order.

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Not a bad looking car at all.
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Nice, looks great. The halo looks a bit better here than it does on the Williams.
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That Renault looks awesome, IMHO
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