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I am, and if I it turns out to be a loser, so be it. I haven't decided exactly when I will be buying though since I will not be blessed with IPO shares.
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Damn a billion in revenue???!?
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Looks like it will still be may 18th....
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Time to move some money into my brokerage account... And sell C and BAC
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Hmmmm..... Damn can't afford much.
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Here's what buffet has to say - and he's spot on here.
"We never buy into an offering" Buffett told CNN at Berkshire's annual meeting in Omaha.
"The idea that something coming out...that's being offered with significant commissions, all kinds of publicity, the seller electing the time to sell, is going to be the best single investment that I can make in the world among thousands of choices is mathematically impossible," said Buffett....
...At the same time, Buffett wouldn't bet against Facebook -- or other leading techs. "I would not short Facebook, I would not short Google, I would not short Apple -- they're fantastic companies. But in terms of what they'll be worth five or ten years from now, I just don't know."
"The idea that something coming out...that's being offered with significant commissions, all kinds of publicity, the seller electing the time to sell, is going to be the best single investment that I can make in the world among thousands of choices is mathematically impossible," said Buffett....
...At the same time, Buffett wouldn't bet against Facebook -- or other leading techs. "I would not short Facebook, I would not short Google, I would not short Apple -- they're fantastic companies. But in terms of what they'll be worth five or ten years from now, I just don't know."
http://money.cnn.com/2012/05/06/news/buffett-facebook/
Long story short - there are better places to make money with significantly less risk than Facebook.
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so i just read up on the deal with buying an IPO with Schwab.
if i buy an IPO and then sell it within 31 days, they penalize me for 90 days on buying another IPO.
if i do it twice, then i get banned for a year.
i also have to submit a survey to see if i have any connections with FB or any conflict of interest.
so if i get in on it and it turns out bad, id be screwed. then again i dont think ill ever really buy an IPO.
if i buy an IPO and then sell it within 31 days, they penalize me for 90 days on buying another IPO.
if i do it twice, then i get banned for a year.
i also have to submit a survey to see if i have any connections with FB or any conflict of interest.
so if i get in on it and it turns out bad, id be screwed. then again i dont think ill ever really buy an IPO.
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ill probably just get a 100 shares and see how it goes.
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Yea, I know.
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Don't worry, you won't get any.
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Fine
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While I doubt you'll actually get IPO shares - it's sadly going to likely be the only way to make money on FB. I think there are better dividend paying stocks out there with significantly less risk than FB.
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They have a market to 900 million maybe even a billion people now and its the fact that today social media there are certain trends set out that basically pop up everywhere and everyone buys into it, whether its something as stupid as the KONY 2012 campaign.
I think FB stock will bring a lot of new comers into the stock market industry to just buy the stock.
The reason I dont wanna buy it. They're at 1 billion people. They can get more people but they're advertising is a lot more limited to say google, who plans on taking over the world.
Google knows 100 times more information about you and can be a lot more personalized.
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well just today fuckerburg announced that facebook is going to put more focus on their mobile apps
so if they can get advertising right on their apps, maybe lot o cash for them to make?
so if they can get advertising right on their apps, maybe lot o cash for them to make?
Last edited by Mizouse; 05-12-2012 at 07:19 PM.
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This can drive people out of fb. Also adblockers are so common now, that i haven't seen an add on fb on my comp for years. When I go on someones comp that doesnt have it, it just looks weird and annoying lol
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Current Facebook business model is doomed in mid-long term.
The only way they continue to thrive is to become similar to Google.....ie they must venture out and away from their primary/OG business and into other areas of various business.
The only way they continue to thrive is to become similar to Google.....ie they must venture out and away from their primary/OG business and into other areas of various business.
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....because nobody is clicking on the ads
GM to Stop Advertising on Facebook
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...017764460.html
First shoe to drop?
General Motors Co. plans to stop advertising on Facebook after the company's marketing executives determined their paid ads had little impact on consumers, people familiar with the matter said, a move that comes as more companies question the effectiveness of advertising on the social networking site.
The largest U.S. auto maker will continue to expand its use of marketing through Facebook's pages, in which markers can display content at no cost, these people said.
The news comes at a bad time for Facebook Inc. The Menlo Park-based social network is expected to hold a historic initial public offering on Friday. ...
The largest U.S. auto maker will continue to expand its use of marketing through Facebook's pages, in which markers can display content at no cost, these people said.
The news comes at a bad time for Facebook Inc. The Menlo Park-based social network is expected to hold a historic initial public offering on Friday. ...
First shoe to drop?
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Does anyone really click on the ads on FB anyways? I know I don't (and that's if I see any.... *cough* AdBlock *cough*).
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So advertisers want to advertise in the most populous place on the planet (facebook)...and as it turns out, nobody pays attention to the ads.
Oof!
Oof!
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That because advertisers are losing to the myriad of lookatmes on the site. Who would have time to click on ads if everyone is trying to keep updated with the vast majority of their "friends" and their latest updates/check-ins and etc.?
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Or, the fact most users are too busy updating their status and etc. that they have no time to click on an ad.
@ companies advertising on Facebook...suckers!
@ companies advertising on Facebook...suckers!
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I never see ads on facebook. They need to figure out how to get around adblockers.
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^^ and if they do that, everyone will jump ship to the new "facebook".
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FB needs to expand their business model.... use the site as a hub.... a place to go for music, games, videos, shopping, etc. Get people to do things through FB.
Want to share a video with your friends? Upload it to FB.... no more YouTube (video could display small ad like YouTube does).
Want to listen to music? Stream it through FB. FB could buy out Pandora or Spotify. Don't want to hear ads, pay for FB music subscription.
Another way to get the ads to work (get people to click on them) would be to use the site to advertise exclusive FB deals.... get retailers to offer FB specials such as 20% off, BOGO, etc.
FB could also offer a program where people earn points or something like FatCash/Bing Rewards, etc. The points/rewards can then be redeemed for different things... virtual good from Zynga, pay for FB music subscription, etc.
Want to share a video with your friends? Upload it to FB.... no more YouTube (video could display small ad like YouTube does).
Want to listen to music? Stream it through FB. FB could buy out Pandora or Spotify. Don't want to hear ads, pay for FB music subscription.
Another way to get the ads to work (get people to click on them) would be to use the site to advertise exclusive FB deals.... get retailers to offer FB specials such as 20% off, BOGO, etc.
FB could also offer a program where people earn points or something like FatCash/Bing Rewards, etc. The points/rewards can then be redeemed for different things... virtual good from Zynga, pay for FB music subscription, etc.
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Facebook to Increase IPO Deal Size by 25%: Source
http://www.cnbc.com/id/47438364
http://www.cnbc.com/id/47438364
Facebook plans to increase the size of its IPO by 85 million shares, says someone familiar with the matter, a move that could value its upcoming offering at as much as $18.5 billion.
The social network’s 25% upsize plan will be filed with regulators at the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Wednesday morning, this person said.
Facebook’s expected move takes the size of its new issue from roughly 340 million shares to roughly 420 million, a change that, combined with the greenshoe – additional shares that could be sold by bankers in the aftermath of the IPO – could value the total deal at nearly $20 billion.
A final decision on Facebook’s IPO price, which is expected to be somewhere between $34 and $38 per share, will be made Thursday evening.
The social network’s 25% upsize plan will be filed with regulators at the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Wednesday morning, this person said.
Facebook’s expected move takes the size of its new issue from roughly 340 million shares to roughly 420 million, a change that, combined with the greenshoe – additional shares that could be sold by bankers in the aftermath of the IPO – could value the total deal at nearly $20 billion.
A final decision on Facebook’s IPO price, which is expected to be somewhere between $34 and $38 per share, will be made Thursday evening.
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opps. look like i wont get betting into the IPO.
i didnt realize that schwab was ending their COTP today at 3pm ET.
damn i knew i shouldve put mine in last night.
i didnt realize that schwab was ending their COTP today at 3pm ET.
damn i knew i shouldve put mine in last night.
Last edited by Mizouse; 05-16-2012 at 12:39 AM.