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Old 01-18-2013, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AZuser
Production Cuts About Move to IGZO, Not Demand, Says Global Equities






TOM DEMARK: Apple's Stock Has Bottomed And Should Rally 22% From Here




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I will never take seriously an investment equity bankers opinion on tech products. After following tech news for years the most unreliable and not based on any facts opinions are those in the investments.

Most likely this guy bought a bunch of shares when it dropped under $500 so he wants to ease everyone's fears so stock will go up and he can make a few bucks.

Also Apple isn't going to replace the screen used in the iPhone 5 with an IGZO screen. I expect Apple to make the iPhone 5 for three years like they did with the iPhone 3Gs, iPhone 4 and will do with the iPhone 4s. The iPhone 3Gs didn't get updated to a newer screen when the retina came out in the iPhone 4 and there's no reason think that the 5 would get an updated screen when the next version comes out, especially when Apple likes to keep features off of older models to encourage you to upgrade to the most expensive model.

Finally, I don't expect the iPhone 5s/6 to come out in the summer so no good reason to be winding down in anticipation of a replacement model especially since the 5 will still be around for a couple more years. I'd expect the next iPhone in fall like the last two models.

Apple recently got rid of Scott Forstall the main guy doing iOS. It's expected that Apple will be doing a big revamp of iOS since many in the tech world feel that it has become stagnant under Forstall's leadership (see the 73 degrees and sunny article I posted earlier). this big software revamp would make it very difficult to make big changes to iOS and still have a new phone and iOS ready by the summer, less than a year after the launch of the 5 and iOS 6. Apple has always launched the new iOS and new phone at the same time so no reason to expect anything different.

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Exclusive: Japan's Sharp cuts iPad screen output
(Reuters) - Sharp Corp has nearly halted production of 9.7-inch screens for Apple Inc's iPad, two sources said, possibly as demand shifts to its smaller iPad mini.

Sharp's iPad screen production line at its Kameyama plant in central Japan has fallen to the minimal level to keep the line running this month after a gradual slowdown began at the end of 2012 as Apple manages its inventory, the industry sources with knowledge of Sharp's production plans told Reuters.

Sharp has stopped shipping iPad panels, the people with knowledge of the near total production shutdown said. The exact level of remaining screen output at Sharp was not immediately clear but it was extremely limited, they said.

Company spokeswoman Miyuki Nakayama said: "We don't disclose production levels."

Apple officials, contacted late in the evening after normal business hours in California, did not have an immediate comment.

The sources didn't say exactly why production had nearly halted. Among the possibilities are a seasonal drop in demand, a switch to another supplier, a shift in the balance of sales to the mini iPad, or an update in the design of the product.

Macquarie Research has estimated that iPad shipments will tumble nearly 40 percent in the current quarter to about 8 million from about 13 million in the fourth quarter, although Apple's total tablet shipments will show a much smaller decrease due to strong iPad mini sales.

APPLE SHARES

Any indication that iPad sales are struggling could add to concern that the appeal of Apple products is waning after earlier media reports said it is slashing orders for iPhone 5 screens and other components from its Asian suppliers.

Those reports helped knock Apple's shares temporarily below $500 this week, the first time its stock had been below the threshold mark in almost one year.

Apple, the reports said, has asked state-managed Japan Display, Sharp and LG Display to halve supplies of iPhone panels from an initial plan for about 65 million screens in January-March. Apple is losing ground to Samsung, as well as emerging rivals including China's Huawei Technologies Co Ltd and ZTE Corp.

NO BIG CHANGE AT OTHER MAKERS

In addition to Sharp, Apple also buys iPad screens from LG Display Co Ltd, its biggest supplier, and Samsung Display, a flat-panel unit of Samsung Electronics.

Both LG Display and Samsung Display declined to comment.

A source at Samsung Display, however, said there had not been any significant change in its panel business with Apple, which has been steadily reducing panel purchases from the South Korean firm.

A person who is familiar with the situation at LG Display said iPad screen production in the current quarter had fallen from the previous quarter ending in December, mainly due to weak seasonal demand that is typical after the busy year-end holiday sales period.

Sterne Agee analyst Shaw Wu said some of the product cutbacks at Sharp are probably seasonal.

"The March quarter is almost always weaker than the December quarter," he said, adding that Apple also consolidates suppliers of certain components during quarters with weaker demand. "The Korean manufacturers are more efficient and typically have lower costs."

Apple's iPad sales may have also suffered amid a weak Christmas shopping period that hurt other consumer gadget makers as well.

CROWD OF RIVAL PRODUCTS

Apple also faces stiffening competition in tablets from a growing crowd of rival products from makers including Samsung with its Galaxy and Microsoft Corp's Surface. A consumer shift to smaller 7-inch screen devices, which Apple responded to late last year by launching its iPad mini for $329, are adding pressure.

BNP Paribas expects the iPad mini will eat into sales of the full-sized iPad, with the mini rise to 60 percent of total iPad shipments in the January-March quarter.

Looking to cut into Apple's market share in the smaller segment are Amazon.com Inc with its Kindle and Google Inc with its Nexus 7.

CEO Tim Cook, who is credited with building Apple's Asian supply chain, has overseen several gadget launches, including the iPhone 5, the latest iPad models and the iPad mini during his first year, is under pressure to deliver the kind of product innovations that wowed consumers during Steve Jobs' tenure to keep his company's profit growth stellar.

Sharp, which also supplies screens for the iPhone, has been working with its main banks on a restructuring plan after posting a $5.6 billion loss for the past fiscal year. To secure emergency financing from lenders including Mizuho Financial Group and Mitsubishi Financial Group it had mortgaged its domestic factories and offices including the one building screens for Apple.

In December, Qualcomm Inc agreed to invest as much as $120 million in Sharp and the two companies said they would work to develop new power-saving screens.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...90H0BZ20130118

Also the iPad mini profit margin is 'significantly below' corporate average

During Apple's Q4 2012 earnings call, Chief Financial Officer Peter Oppenheimer has filled in a bit more of the iPad mini pricing puzzle. Despite the tablet's $329 starting price — 60 percent more than competition like the Nexus 7 — the iPad mini's gross profit margin is "significantly below" the company's average, which was at 40 percent for the quarter. Of course, Apple isn't one to detail its margins product-to-product, but thanks to Oppenheimer's remarks we know its margin on the iPad mini is less than 40 percent. We do know that the $199, 7-inch Nexus 7 is sold at cost, and considering the iPad mini's superior-feeling build quality and 7.9-inch screen the considerably higher cost of the mini can be partly accounted for.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/25/3...porate-average

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AAPL missed

AAPL After Hours: $485.35 - Down $28.65 (5.57%)

Apple Inc. posted flat earnings for its first fiscal quarter on Wednesday afternoon, slightly beating Wall Street's expectations despite a revenue line that was a little weaker than expected. For the period ended Dec. 29, Apple reported net income of $13.1 billion, or $13.81 per share, compared to net income of $13.1 billion, or $13.87 per share, for the same period the previous year. Revenue jumped 18% to $54.5 billion. Total iPhone shipments in the period were 47.8 million. Analysts were expecting earnings of $13.48 per share on revenue of $55 billion, according to consensus estimates from FactSet.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/app...ain-2013-01-23


Apple's earnings for last quarter are out!

Here's the breakdown of iPhones and iPads sold:
  • 47.8 million iPhones sold versus 50 million expected. (Keep in mind this includes all iPhones: iPhone 4, 4S, and 5.)
  • 22.9 iPads sold versus 23 million expected. (Keep in mind this includes the iPad Mini.)

So how does that compare to the last time Apple reported earnings?
Apple sold 26.9 million iPhones and 14 million iPads when it announced numbers on October 25, 2012.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-...213319877.html


Apple Inc reported quarterly revenue that slightly missed Wall Street expectations as sales of its flagship iPhone came in below analyst targets, sending its shares down more than 4 percent.

Apple said its fiscal first quarter revenue rose to $54.5 billion, below the average analyst estimate of $54.73 billion, according to Thomson Reuters I/B/E/S.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-...213649351.html

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Old 01-23-2013, 03:47 PM
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Gotta love the apple stock thou, they beat earnings, increased revenue by 18% and the stock tanks. Of course any other company that posts those results would probably soar.
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It's all about what wall street wants and expects. If AAPL doesn't beat those expectations like they have in the past...

AAPL needs a new hit product. Without it, the stock's going to languish around $500. But can Cook deliver? The era of Steve Jobs is over.
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Yea, the street just sets the expectations too high. They need to get realistic.
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Yea, the street just sets the expectations too high. They need to get realistic.


Looking ahead, Apple said it expects sales of between $41 billion and $43 billion in the current quarter, which ends in March.

Apple routinely lowballs its forecasts, but the outlook will likely prompt analysts to lower their own expectations, which were at $45.6 billion.
But when will that happen? If wall street doesn't lower that $45.6B expectation, AAPL's going to miss next qtr again.


AAPL After Hours: $480.58 - Down $33.43 (6.50%)


Might pick up a few shares or calls tomorrow if it hits $470-$475 for a quick flip. The miss wasn't really that bad. The gross margins is what probably hurt them the most.... and declining Mac sales.

Gross margin narrowed to 38.6% from 44.7%

The company sold 4.1 million Macintosh computers, down 21% from a year ago. It also sold 12.7 million iPod media players, an 18% decline. Apple has reported declining sales for the iPod in recent quarters.

EDIT>>>>>

Fuuu!!!

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FML

$462.85 - Down $51.15 (9.95%)



$425 here we come.
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Anyone think there will be a bounce tomorrow? It's selling down >10% in after hours.
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They should split this stock and offer a dividend. P/E on this stock is great. It's clear that the era of large jumps in growth is over.

Oh, they just announced a dividend. Good

http://investor.apple.com/faq.cfm

Does Apple pay a cash dividend?

On January 23, 2013, Apple's Board of Directors declared a cash dividend of $2.65 per share of the Company's common stock. The dividend is payable on February 14, 2013, to shareholders of record as of the close of business on February 11, 2013.

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I know there are Apple fans, but there iOS (their bread and butter) is stale and boring. And the majority of people won't spend $1500 on a computer to check emails, surf the web, and make the occasional Word doc. Hell, the phones can do most of this stuff, so they have ate themselves with tablets filling the void.

With all of that said, Apple has enough cash to develop 10 rotten pumpkins for every bar of gold. At $425 to $450 a share, I don't think you can lose money over the next 5 years.
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Originally Posted by doopstr
They should split this stock and offer a dividend. P/E on this stock is great. It's clear that the era of large jumps in growth is over.

Oh, they just announced a dividend. Good

http://investor.apple.com/faq.cfm
They've had a dividend since the beginning of this thread.

I believe July or do of last year.
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Watch out today, precursor to a crash?

Pre-Market: 465.00-49.01‎ (-9.53%‎)
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I'm glad I went long on Netflicks yesterday at $105 and shorted Apple at $490. 20,000 shares on each.


Yeah right.....


Netflicks is crap and Apple can pour gold... that's why I gamble on something predictable like poker and craps.
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I own Netflix and Apple so today is a good/bad day.
Bought Apple at $70, and thought about selling at $700.
Shoulda, coulda, woulda,....
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^ You greedy little bastard.
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Originally Posted by Legend2TL
I own Netflix and Apple so today is a good/bad day.
Bought Apple at $70, and thought about selling at $700.
Shoulda, coulda, woulda,....
Me too, I thought about selling at $700, but thought, "why not wait until $800" :greed:


But I got in at $240/share.
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What are you long term holders hoping for before you sell your shares? Return to 600+?

I know a guy down $30,000 (he is still profitable though) since the high and he is frozen, refuses to sell. I'm sure he will complain about aapl to me every day for the rest of the year. All could have been avoided if he traded with stops instead of emotion.

He's also one of these guys that refuses to take a loss on trades, so he has a lot of "dead money."

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I'm hoping for a 1000000% increase that makes me a millionaire overnight
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
I'm hoping for a 1000000% increase that makes me a millionaire overnight
I look back to when the first time I saw the 1G iPod and remember how great the GUI was and easy it was to operate. Apple was $7 then....
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What a damn hosing those saps in this stock have taken over the last two weeks. $439.88 as of this post.
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Today was kind of a textbook day with AAPL. The stock should have opened with a $10 pop if there was some good buying interest but it really couldn't get much higher than 456 and faded quickly after that.

It would not surprise me if AAPL touches 388 which corresponds to the 200 week exp moving average. There's still some more pain that could be felt for any longs. If this 388 level doesn't hold next support is at 350.

This stock kind of frustrates me since I'm usually correct in direction but wrong in timing- I had some shares short at 570 and then it vaulted and smoked me out in mid July when it 612. I'm not touching any long positions until it stabilizes for a week. The entire stock market seems a bit 'frothy' at the moment so it's hard for me to get more long in anything at the moment- although the TBT is looking much better now and looks to be going up.

I really feel for those longs out there that bought in at 700- yikes a painful loss! Looks like FB is the new tech darling and boy does that have a pricey multiples compared to AAPL.
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Apple Issues Statement About Returning Cash to Shareholders
Feb 7, 2013 12:45 pm PST by Jordan Golson
Apple has issued a press release reiterating its commitment to return some of its extremely large cash pile to shareholders, saying that Apple management and the Board of Directors are in "active discussions" about how to return cash to shareholders.

This follows letter sent to Apple shareholders this morning by Greenlight Capital [PDF], a major Apple shareholder, arguing that the company "must examine all of its options to unlock the growing value of its balance sheet".

Apple's statement:
By early last year, Apple’s cash balance had built to a point beyond what we needed to run our business and maintain flexibility to take advantage of strategic opportunities, so we announced a plan to return $45 billion to shareholders over three years. As of next week we will have executed $10 billion of that plan.

We find ourselves in the fortunate position of continuing to generate large amounts of cash, including $23 billion in cash flow from operations in the last quarter alone.

Apple’s management team and Board of Directors have been in active discussions about returning additional cash to shareholders. As part of our review, we will thoroughly evaluate Greenlight Capital’s current proposal to issue some form of preferred stock. We welcome Greenlight’s views and the views of all of our shareholders.

Apple's stock price rose sharply in the minutes following the release.
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If Jobs was still around, he'd be

If what I'm seeing is correct, stock will be back to around $500 near end of next week.

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I bought in a little more yesterday just before the bounce but I'm still down about 8% overall on AAPL. If it hits $513 I'm selling off everything and moving on to something else.
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... rumors of a stock split tomorrow at shareholder meeting.

This might bring in more AAPL stock buyers.
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New 52 week low today.

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This is no longer a growth story. They should split the stock 5/1, give a nice regular dividend and sail off into the sunset like Microsoft.

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Oh yeah. New 52 week low.

$422.93 - Down $7.54 (1.75%)

Going down to $350.
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At $441. I am debating selling now. I keep hearing some people say it will go up, others saying it will go down.


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