Integra Thoughts on the Integra
#41
thank you for the beautiful summary! Whoever is going to buy a car for $35k AT doesn’t give a fcuk about DCT or CVT.
Those that care, will just get the MT.
We can’t expect from any brand to give us A to Z for $35K. If anyone wants a fast and fully loaded car with all the premium material, S class is available![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Those that care, will just get the MT.
We can’t expect from any brand to give us A to Z for $35K. If anyone wants a fast and fully loaded car with all the premium material, S class is available
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#43
Oh god another one of these Acura comparos. Funnily enough they even messed up the rear legroom; it's 37.4" for the Integra, not 34", and I highly doubt the CLA has only 27.1" of rear legrooom.
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Summer interns doing the proof-reading!
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Only reason this econobox is selling great is because of the manual option. As I've said, people are willing to look past the very cheap garbage materials, omissions, and horrendous styling cues so they can get a manual.
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We get it. You're right, all these poor buyers are misguided. Thanks for your perspective.
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I asked the same question. Okay it's a bad car and it doesn't appeal to rich people like him. So why is he here? Why doesn't he go and join Bentley's forum and enjoy Luxury. or even go to Genesis forum, I am sure he will find plenty of "Luxury & Reliability" there.
#50
The way you defend this car, I can only assume you put a deposit on one the day it was available and have a delivery coming up in the next few weeks.
#51
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hahaha You nailed it!
I asked the same question. Okay it's a bad car and it doesn't appeal to rich people like him. So why is he here? Why doesn't he go and join Bentley's forum and enjoy Luxury. or even go to Genesis forum, I am sure he will find plenty of "Luxury & Reliability" there.
I asked the same question. Okay it's a bad car and it doesn't appeal to rich people like him. So why is he here? Why doesn't he go and join Bentley's forum and enjoy Luxury. or even go to Genesis forum, I am sure he will find plenty of "Luxury & Reliability" there.
Cause, haters gonna hate.
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One of those life mysteries when these haters just go onto the new car forums ( typically most of their postings) and trash talk those cars.
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Yeah like what's up with that. We got a TLX-2 redux going on here. If you don't like the car why hang around shitting on it? I could kinda like understand one negative post then out. What makes no sense to me is being the source of a constant negative barrage that denies an opposing opinion to the poster is even possible.
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#54
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Let's be honest, the vast majority of Acura buyers are not going to know the difference between a CVT, DCT, or normal torque converter automatic. Enthusiasts make up a very small minority of buyers, and the majority of that minority are going to buy the 6MT anyways. Acura is not concerned about the dozen or so potential buyers who will be turned off by the CVT. If anything, the superior MPGs of the CVT is probably going to capture more buyers than the lackluster performance of a CVT will drive away.
#55
let the modding begin https://prlmotorsports.com/collectio...ction-products
#56
The integra was 200 hp @ 2400 lbs from a 1.8... 27 YEARS ago. Now it's a 3100+ pound piggy with a 1.5l turbo with 200 hp and only a manual @ $37k. Hell of a progress in 3 decades.
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Me, personally? Because I miss old Acura. I owned some great examples, 99 CL 5MT, 03 CLS 6MT, 06 RL SH-AWD, and many, many other, not to mention 2 dozen Hondas. I'm shitting on it because I'm upset. I want old Acura back. I want the early 2000s Acura. That's why. I've been on this forum since 2008 and that's when I discovered it, I owned Acura cars well before that. I'm not here to hate and poof, gone. Look at my signature below, clearly I'm still vested in the brand. I just want them to do better because they CAN do better.
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Acura released the pricing for Canadian market and if we compare it to current ILX:
Base ILX: $34K
Base Integra: $37K
Difference: $3K
Premium ILX:$36K
No Premium Integra
Premium A-SPEC ILX: $38K
A-SPEC Integra: $39.5K
Difference: $1.5K
Tech A SPEC ILX: $39K
Elite A-SPEC Integra: $45K
Difference: $6K
All prices are in $CAD and includes Freight, PDI and Fees. I know the new Integra offers a lot more goodies compared to the ILX.
In my opinion, the Elite Integra is too expensive for Canadian market. Honestly, $45K is a lot of money. Now if we compare it to the competitors, it's still cheap but still people buy Acura for it's value. $45K is not value in my opinion. I am sure the A-SPEC Integra will be the common one in our market. What are your thoughts my Canadian friends?
Base ILX: $34K
Base Integra: $37K
Difference: $3K
Premium ILX:$36K
No Premium Integra
Premium A-SPEC ILX: $38K
A-SPEC Integra: $39.5K
Difference: $1.5K
Tech A SPEC ILX: $39K
Elite A-SPEC Integra: $45K
Difference: $6K
All prices are in $CAD and includes Freight, PDI and Fees. I know the new Integra offers a lot more goodies compared to the ILX.
In my opinion, the Elite Integra is too expensive for Canadian market. Honestly, $45K is a lot of money. Now if we compare it to the competitors, it's still cheap but still people buy Acura for it's value. $45K is not value in my opinion. I am sure the A-SPEC Integra will be the common one in our market. What are your thoughts my Canadian friends?
#59
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Acura released the pricing for Canadian market and if we compare it to current ILX:
Base ILX: $34K
Base Integra: $37K
Difference: $3K
Premium ILX:$36K
No Premium Integra
Premium A-SPEC ILX: $38K
A-SPEC Integra: $39.5K
Difference: $1.5K
Tech A SPEC ILX: $39K
Elite A-SPEC Integra: $45K
Difference: $6K
All prices are in $CAD and includes Freight, PDI and Fees. I know the new Integra offers a lot more goodies compared to the ILX.
In my opinion, the Elite Integra is too expensive for Canadian market. Honestly, $45K is a lot of money. Now if we compare it to the competitors, it's still cheap but still people buy Acura for it's value. $45K is not value in my opinion. I am sure the A-SPEC Integra will be the common one in our market. What are your thoughts my Canadian friends?
Base ILX: $34K
Base Integra: $37K
Difference: $3K
Premium ILX:$36K
No Premium Integra
Premium A-SPEC ILX: $38K
A-SPEC Integra: $39.5K
Difference: $1.5K
Tech A SPEC ILX: $39K
Elite A-SPEC Integra: $45K
Difference: $6K
All prices are in $CAD and includes Freight, PDI and Fees. I know the new Integra offers a lot more goodies compared to the ILX.
In my opinion, the Elite Integra is too expensive for Canadian market. Honestly, $45K is a lot of money. Now if we compare it to the competitors, it's still cheap but still people buy Acura for it's value. $45K is not value in my opinion. I am sure the A-SPEC Integra will be the common one in our market. What are your thoughts my Canadian friends?
#60
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So that's a tic under $37K US, or about the same price as here for an ASpec Tech, except the Canadian model (as usual) comes with a few added features -- heated rear seats, heated steering wheel, etc.
In our shopping in the states, 37K for a new, pretty feature-laden car is a decent price, considering the average new car price in the US is approaching 50K (inflated by over-priced trucks and SUVs).
In the old days (pre-2020), you could probably purchase an ASpec Tech for about 34-35K after the initial sales frenzy had passed. The current picture is very different, obviously, and people are feeling good to pay MSRP or a little over.
This won't last, I don't think, but for now, Acura has a popular, well-received car amidst a production shortage due to chips, parts, etc. You can figure out what's going to happen to pricing.
In our shopping in the states, 37K for a new, pretty feature-laden car is a decent price, considering the average new car price in the US is approaching 50K (inflated by over-priced trucks and SUVs).
In the old days (pre-2020), you could probably purchase an ASpec Tech for about 34-35K after the initial sales frenzy had passed. The current picture is very different, obviously, and people are feeling good to pay MSRP or a little over.
This won't last, I don't think, but for now, Acura has a popular, well-received car amidst a production shortage due to chips, parts, etc. You can figure out what's going to happen to pricing.
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#61
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Personally, I'm liking all the good reviews/impressions so far from the auto press.
Here's another good review: https://www.autoblog.com/2022/05/26/...a-first-drive/
Here's another good review: https://www.autoblog.com/2022/05/26/...a-first-drive/
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#62
Drifting
^^ Thanks for posting this review. The reviewer's thoughts on driving the car parallel mine from a test drive last weekend. We too owned previous gen (1990 and 1991) Integras, and the reviewer's comments that there is a lot of that "Integra feeling" from the old car carried through to our impressions from our test drive. It's as if Acura had just kept selling the Integra, modifying and updating it from time to time to meet current safety/mpg/amenity standards. This one has a lot more room, features and utility than our old LS Coupe (Honey Beige Metallic), is faster (9.3 versus low 7s in 0-60), gets better mileage (26 versus 36 mpg highway) and costs just a little bit more in inflation-adjusted dollars (about 35K versus 36.8). If Acura can build/find the one we want, we'll be a repeat customer.
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I said $45K is expensive for Canadian market but still cheaper if compared to the competitors. I won’t like go and write 50 posts about this like most of the time you do!
i shared my opinion and wish the best to all people who like and want to buy the car. Now it’s time for you to go buy a genesis and join another forum 😂
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#64
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lol! Sure. I will leave the forum the day I sell my TL and MDX. I won’t come unlike many to just talk for the sake of talking.
I said $45K is expensive for Canadian market but still cheaper if compared to the competitors. I won’t like go and write 50 posts about this like most of the time you do!
i shared my opinion and wish the best to all people who like and want to buy the car. Now it’s time for you to go buy a genesis and join another forum 😂
I said $45K is expensive for Canadian market but still cheaper if compared to the competitors. I won’t like go and write 50 posts about this like most of the time you do!
i shared my opinion and wish the best to all people who like and want to buy the car. Now it’s time for you to go buy a genesis and join another forum 😂
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This is a good read, as well: https://www.hotcars.com/why-everyone...acura-integra/
Everything I've read so far...from Motor Authority to Car & Driver and etc. is that the new Integra is pretty darn good. If you don't like it, your opinion. No biggie.
Everything I've read so far...from Motor Authority to Car & Driver and etc. is that the new Integra is pretty darn good. If you don't like it, your opinion. No biggie.
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#68
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This is a good read, as well: https://www.hotcars.com/why-everyone...acura-integra/
Everything I've read so far...from Motor Authority to Car & Driver and etc. is that the new Integra is pretty darn good. If you don't like it, your opinion. No biggie.
Everything I've read so far...from Motor Authority to Car & Driver and etc. is that the new Integra is pretty darn good. If you don't like it, your opinion. No biggie.
#69
I actually think that this car is better than the rest of the lineup from a functionality/practicality perspective but there's still some big misses that would make me hesitant to purchase. Worth a test drive I think, though, and for what I'm looking for it admittedly checks a lot of boxes.
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I actually think that this car is better than the rest of the lineup from a functionality/practicality perspective but there's still some big misses that would make me hesitant to purchase. Worth a test drive I think, though, and for what I'm looking for it admittedly checks a lot of boxes.
On C&D, they graded it 8/10 which is a good car. How it ranks against the established cars in its segment: 5 out of 6...behind the Audi S3, BMW 2er, Audi A3, Audi RS3...and in front of the Mercedes CLA AMG. So, the fact they like it more than an AMG is something. Let's see if Acura will release a Type R.
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#71
I think the core complaints with this car stem from two things: the CVT, and the existance of the Civic. The problem is that the 11G Civic itself is so good that it makes the Integra look less impressive than you'd expect of a premium brand's car, but in a vacuum the Integra is very very good. Outside of the powertrain it's easily superior to the outgoing ILX (admittedly that's not saying much). The CVT, though...that's a different matter altogether, but I'm still convinced it was the right business choice for Honda/Acura even if it makes a mockery of the "performance brand" claim that Ikeda loves to mention.
#72
And yet they're going to sell a boatload of those. The ILX didn't have an LSD either and it should a lot better than it should have. You have to remember that mainstream entry-level premium car buyers have much lower standards and expectations, and price plays a very important factor. Hell this car could have a torsion beam rear suspension, rear drum brakes, and ultra-numb steering, and most buyers would not care at all. At the end of the day, this car is built for volume mainstream buyers, and will use it's looks to help give the perception of performance.
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Forbes' write-up on the Integra: https://www.forbes.com/wheels/news/2...a-first-drive/
Here's a key portion of the article:
More on trying to compare it to a Civic...
And yet again...another positive review:
Here's a key portion of the article:
Built on Honda’s global small-car architecture, the Integra starts with a solid base and riffs from there. Everything up from the chassis is unique to Integra, from the structure to the design. The Integra’s body is stiffer than the Civic and is longer and wider, sharing only the wheelbase with its less-expensive sibling. Because the liftgate was essential to the reboot design, Acura added structure to compensate.
And let me answer the big question: With a manual transmission, is it as good as the wildly popular Civic Si? Yes. The commonality is clear, but everything from the tuning to the software is unique to the Integra.
And yet again...another positive review:
Acura has succeeded in resurrecting a beloved dinosaur without the horrors of Jurassic Park. The new Integra lives up to its storied name, and it still proffers the fun ride it promises; that is, as long as you get the manual. It’s worth the upgrade.
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Look, I'm the first to "hate" on Acura...as I've departed the family since the 3.2 CL Type S...yeah...long time ago. But, this manual Integra has me excited and happy. I think a Type R/Type S release may be around the corner...hoping for it. But, if not, just on all the good reviews so far, I'd say this is a hit for Acura.
#75
Look, I'm the first to "hate" on Acura...as I've departed the family since the 3.2 CL Type S...yeah...long time ago. But, this manual Integra has me excited and happy. I think a Type R/Type S release may be around the corner...hoping for it. But, if not, just on all the good reviews so far, I'd say this is a hit for Acura.
#76
I think the Type S is going to be what really gets enthusiasts excited about it. The regular 6MT is nice, but paywalling it behind the top trim at $37K + destination is tough to swallow. With the CTR's K20C1, a 6MT, and a sticker of $45K it would be a big hit even if the CTR is faster. Even the TLX/RDX's version of the K20C might be OK at a little over $40K.
Are you one of them? If not, then shut up about it already...with respect.
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There are more idiots in this world than any of us would like to think. Dealers wouldn't pull this kind of crap if it didn't pay off -- kind of like telephone scammers -- "hello, this is Amazon. Someone just ordered 10 I Pads through your Amazon account."