S14 n Tsx

My parents decided to upgrade their tv so we are in market looking for a new tv, but when it comes to tv I have no clue so I need you guys help. I read/heard plenty of lcd vs plasma but still can't decide which one to get. I think we are leaning towards the lcd tv though. Are we making the right decision or no? The salesman recommended us that we should get the new LCD Sony 52" XBR4 for $3,800, deal or no deal?
thanks,

soopa

we have like 700 of these threads.

IMO, if price is at all an issue, LCD is the best bet today.

IlliNorge

If you want to spend $3k look at the Samsung 5271 LCD. Multiple backlights for better contrast ratio. It's been in stores less than a month.

S14 n Tsx

sorry, I should used the search buttom.

S14 n Tsx

cool, I will check that out.
thanks,

NetEditor

What are the lighting conditions of the room? Plasmas don't perform well in a brightly lit room. For LCDs, I also prefer Samsung over Sony, or Sharp.

Yumcha

LCD. But, if space is not an issue, DLP is fine too IMO.



<---- Perfectly happy with Samsung DLP 50 incher. And before you ask, I have posted about it. Thanks.

StypeCL

under 50'' LCD
over 50'' Plasma

NetEditor

What about at 50"?

StypeCL

Good ?
Where I work we do not have any 50'' LCD's. We have 46'' & 47'' then right to 52''.
We do have 50'' plasma's though.

mltk53

sony uses samsungs lcd panels

mltk53

lcd uses a lot less power compared plasmas

S14 n Tsx

The room is pretty bright so I guess LCD? Our first choice was Samsung also, but after talking to that guy he told us to get the Sony over Samsung. He said something Sony XBR4 getting the best rating.

S14 n Tsx

Yeah, I know but lcd panels isn't the most important part of the tv, its the lens. The lens defines the good quality and bad quality tv. I heard that Sony has the one of the best lens out there.
correct me if I'm worng.

S14 n Tsx

thanks for your input but DLP isn't what we are looking for. We also thought about getting a 60" DLP tv but after comparing against the LCD...let's just say that we deicded not to get a DLP. Plus, if you are sitting in the cornner to the tv then you can't see shit. I'm not dogging on DLP tv but just not what we are looking for.

S14 n Tsx

why is that? any reason?
thanks,

Yumcha

I can sit on the side and see just fine for the TV. And honestly, how skewed of an angle do you intend to sit to watch TV in the first place...? If it's that bad...why watch and hurt your neck...?

S14 n Tsx

yeah, yeah!! btw, does yours support 1080p?

Yumcha

Nope...the box I have is from a 2 years back. 1080i/720p...

S14 n Tsx

You do know that all the broadcast would be using 1080p starting November, right?

IlliNorge

You're still wrong about this. Maybe you're thinking all broadcasts will be digital by 2009?

S14 n Tsx

^^ hmmm, I guess I heard it wrong?

S14 n Tsx

alright, we decided to go with lcd so!! any recommendation?
So far I got...
52" Sony XBR4
52" Samsung 5271

cmark

Toshiba 52LX177

soopa

It will be a good long while (if ever) before broadcast television is 1080p.

yuhoo22

yeah right! not even close....digital maybe, but definitely not 1080p

yunginTL

get the new 1080p pioneer plasma....if not i vote for the xbr4

S14 n Tsx

okay, I was wrong..

SiGGy

Any of you been following OLED?

Kinda puts both LCD and Plasma to shame....

The image is so good it's awe inspiring and jaw dropping!

Requires no backlighting...
Extremely low latency changes on the pixels. night and day to LCD/Plasma.
Blacks are *BLACK* complete light isolation, no bleeding. It's basically off.
Image is very bright; and is very VIVID!
Color coverage is > ANSI spec.
MUCH thinner displays than even LCD and plasma!
LOW power usage...

Latest prototype displays are touting 1,000,000:1 contrast ratios. With this technology I wouldn't doubt they are close to 500,000:1 easy across all of the color spectrum.

They can make the displays with inkjet technology So they shouldn't be very expensive once they go into full production and the early adopters are done wasting their $$ But I'd expect the displays to be $$ to start... like any newer technology.

Only caveat that currently exists is the blue emitters do not last long. They are working on improving things rapidly though!

Seems lots of manufacturers are gearing up to make OLED displays. LOTS of prototype models from many manufacturers were at CES.

Anyone interested with what's going on with the technology... this will get you up to date...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=681125

Yumcha

^ I'll set the over/under for OLED at $15K per.

S14 n Tsx

too expensive for a tv, IMO.

IlliNorge

OLED is probably what I'll be looking for in 2012 when my LCD becomes a relic.

SiGGy

I stated it would be expensive to start... but prices should fall quickly. I bet we'll see cheap 50" displays sooner than you think. Especially since a lot of companies are adopting the inkjet method of production. Tooling will be cheap...


Sorry to burst your bubble; but a high end plasma is still near $10k. Once OLED starts coming out plasma prices will plummet.

But ya, I think $15k is even under what a large one will start at...

SiGGy

Well even a studio quality plasma is $$ today.

But I agree with ya... it's not in my budget space either. I'll let all the early adopters "I have to have it" guys similar to all the people who bought iphones make it cheaper for me

If you haven't seen an OLED TV. It's mind numbing... blows anything you have seen to date away x100.

S14 n Tsx

where did you see it at? I thought 52" 1080p quality was amazing but guess this is even better?

SiGGy

CES and a demo was at a local electronics show here in KC. OLED is still only in prototype form. There is suppose to be some TVs out late this year; or early next year.

1080p is just the resolution. 1920x1080... thats what all HDTVs are shooting for.

The OLED technology has the brightest most vivid color you have ever seen. With the darkest blackest black you have ever seen (on a black picture the set looks like it's off). And then a huge array of sub contrast (shadow detail) to go with it. The picture is absolutely unreal... take the best picture you have seen with current technology and picture it 100x better. It's that much of an improvement...

To give you an example of how superior the technology is, moving images tend to blur (leave trails) on Plasma and LCD and even CRT because it takes miliseconds for each pixel to switch it's state (on to off) or to a color varient. On CRT/Plasma it's because the phosphors hold a charge for a few miliseconds before they turn off. OLED can switch from fully on to fully off in .01 miliseconds. 100x faster than a CRT, 300x faster than Plasma and 500x faster than the best LCD screens.

If you have ever heard anyone speak of watching HDTV "like viewing through a window" OLED gives you that experience and then some.

S14 n Tsx

^^ damn, I want to check it out....

NetEditor

People said the same things about SED, too, but that's more or less a dead venture. While I think OLED holds more promise than SED business-wise, I think it'll be something that will take a while before it's affordable to the general public.

SiGGy

It's already being used... Lots of cell phones and portable device already use OLED screens. So unlike SED there is not an adaption period. And as I have already said OLED displays can be produced using a injet type printing machine. So it's a low production cost once everything has been tooled up.

If you go to CES all of the big TV manufacturers have a OLED prototype. Sony and a few others already have OLED displays in their lineup for next year. Sadly they are small screens... 27" or so. And the cost is like 7x of current LCD screens of the same size. But that's to be expected of any new technology...

SED was more of a pipe dream. Luckily OLED is cheap to produce in the long term; so it's a viable investment. And lucky for us OLED is superior to SED in terms of picture quality.

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

Just curious where you get your info from. I know you already decided LCD, but we have a chair that's literally at a 75 degree or more angle from our main TV (DLP) and once in a while my wife sits in that corner and vegges and watches TV... and she can see it fine.

You should spend a day or so over on the AVS Forums. Lots of good info over there. Accurate info too...