thoiboi

I just picked up a Nexus Player so close enough to Android TV

Yeah, I love Samsung's TV's, hate their software..

SamDoe1

Nexus player is AndroidTV but I thought they stopped making it? Anyway, what you see on the player is what I see on my TV.

thoiboi

Gf's brother got tired of his so just gave it to me

justnspace

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I love my Sony/Android TV.

atomlinks

I could care less about smart features built into a TV. I'd rather have an external device that you can upgrade without buying a new TV every few years. My logitech revue has been collecting dust for years... Roku3 replaced it, have been pretty happy since. Google left a bad taste in my mouth with that Revue

justnspace

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and then you're updating devices every 2 years.
and the cycle goes on and on. you're not escaping ANYTHING

thoiboi

could or couldn't care less

SamDoe1

The idea is to NOT upgrade your hardware but instead upgrade your software. Why are you tossing devices out without any real need to do so? What was the rationale for tossing the revue? The Roku is fine but it's not built into the TV and I need yet another remote for it. I can control AndroidTV with my phone and it gets regular software updates for more functionality so there's no need to get something more.

atomlinks

I'm not replacing my $2000 TV upstairs and my $2000 TV downstairs every few years.. Give me $100 device to replace every 5-10yrs I want to keep my TV's for 20yrs...

Give me a break man, I'm from Ohio :-) i know... not an excuse

No OS updates and no way to get Hulu plus did it for me with the revue. I threw my roku remotes in the trash, Harmony remotes rule :-D

2001AudiS4

hahahaha. Oh shit, you're serious?

justnspace

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2001AudiS4

In all seriousness, he is correct. A universal remote is the way to go if you have anything more than just a tv. No matter what you do, unless you have a set that is DTV RVU compatible, you WILL be using two remotes without some form of universal remote.

Fact is I have seen more issues with TV built in applications than I ever have with a little $100 Roku. AppleTV is another issue, no thanks. When I get calls about TV's that are rebooting themselves, services that keep logging out on their own, dropping off the network... It gets old. Adding a Roku on all our jobs has eliminated all of those calls.

2001AudiS4

Have also had to pull TV's off the wall to unplug TVs for a hard reset that locked up completely due to network issues. We COULD flip a breaker, but its not a good idea to have your TV plugged in when you turn the breaker on.

atomlinks

Ha hell ya I'm serious. I've been using them for years, can't really find a better option... Their device database is probably the best I've seen. I'd love to see all manufacturers using the same RF standards, when the hell is that going to happen? I'm still an IR guy, have a repeater going to the basement for receiver, roku, PC etc Who the hell wants 4 remotes sitting around to confuse everyone that just want to watch some TV. For the OP I don't know which models are best right now, but both my TV's are Samsung and I love them. I still have people amazed at the quality of the picture even though it's 5yrs old. The built in apps on the TV I never use. I've tried them, but just not as reliable as a hard wired roku(or any external device) and HDMI back to the TV.

Costco

Samsung doesn't update their TVs, just like their phones

Real talk though, gonna seriously consider a Vizio now because of the posts in this thread.

CBP08TL

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BJ's will have this TV for their black friday sale for $900 - Samsung UN65KU6290

Don't care for extra features. we use chromecast and stream to the TV from devices. we unplugged so no cable service. will use antenna if available, otherwise just strictly streaming and movies. this will be our main TV.

Thoughts?

Doom878

^Supposedly not the good HDR if you care and it won't use it for the One S. Amazon has it for $1,050 right now if you want to lock it in.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN65K.../dp/B01GU9TBQI

SamDoe1

The more expensive ones bring a lot more to the table than the streaming features... I'd argue that the software bits for streaming are probably the same. What you pay for is the backlight, panel quality, and image processing of the nicer TV's. A 6 series Samsung is REALLY basic (and I don't mean basic in streaming features) and at that point you might as well grab a Vizio or Hisense for a lot cheaper. I'd recommend an 7 or 8 series at the least.

CBP08TL

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guess there are better options.

thanks... there are too many options - which is why i haven't purchased. will keep searching/reading. let me see if i can get in on that 8 series emp sale from samsung

SamDoe1

Another thing to remember is that almost all manufacturers use the 6, 7, 8, 9 series numbering so you can find equivalent models across manufacturers using that numbering scheme. Only exception is Vizio which uses letters but it's in the same order.

AZuser

Since you're using tv for movies, you may want to look for one that's 120Hz for smoother playback of video. 60Hz on Samsung UN65KU6290 could produce noticeable judder.... though some people may not mind or notice.

Doom878

Might be an LED thing though. LG OLED's are all with 6's but use letters.

OLED TVs: Curved, OLED 4K & Flat OLED | LG USA

Here's one on sale and it ain't cheap

https://slickdeals.net/f/9265299-65-...-free-shipping

SamDoe1

OLED is a whole different ball game...

Edit: $2400 for a 65" 4K OLED is a STEAL. Anyone on the fence about a TV in that price range should grab this if they can.

2001AudiS4

Harmony most definitely does NOT use the best RF standards. For starters, they use blasters. Blasters are for lazy people that don't know what they are doing. Best database is arguable. It's a good database, however it is not utilized correctly. Harmony remotes are SLOW, SLOW, SLOW due to how they operate. They are the best CONSUMER programmable remote, but far from the best universal remote out there.

atomlinks

I never said harmony uses the best RF Tech. I said that I would like to see the same RF standard used between all manufacturers. Imagine a world without wifi standards, bluetooth standards, usb standards. If it happens, for the love of God please make the shit backwards compatible. IR just works with everything(everything that includes an IR receiver).

Not all harmony remotes use RF and not all harmony remotes use blasters. The new ones with the hub certainly uses both RF and the IR blasters. I have one in my basement and it works very well, nothing slow about it. Upstairs I have an older harmony 650 remote with an IR repeater that runs all of my equipment in the basement(not slow here either). How are you going to do that without using RF? Blasters are for lazy people? Yes, because fishing wire through walls and creating a clean setup without any wires showing in the living area is for lazy people.

Database not utilized correctly? I don't even know what this means. I have been able to add all of my devices over the years easily and set up activities like "Watch TV" so when grandma comes over she can click the button next to "Watch TV" and it turns on the TV, switches to over the air, turns on the amp, sets the right input etc..

You can pick these older harmony remotes up on ebay for around $40 and for what it does... simply amazing for the price.
Stick grandma in front of the TV with 4 remotes on the coffee table. Do you think she'll know what to do?

"Best Universal Remote" that isn't a harmony... Sounds like a sketchy salesman from a custom home audio install place that will try to sell you an overpriced touchscreen system that conveniently can be only supported and installed by them. Service call anyone? No thanks, I like my $35 ebay remote that just works.

I thought this thread was about TV's?

RL09

Sony quality and Google's Android flexibility in unlimited amounts of apps.... it becomes a no-brainer.

svtmike

2001AudiS4

Sorry, but harmony remotes ARE slow. You likely have not seen a properly programmed pro remote if you think otherwise. Harmony is great for a DIYer, but don't be mistaken into thinking it is on the same level as a pro system. It simply is not. The mere fact they do not utilize discreet commands and instead rely on a help button for when things get out of sync is proof of that. I have serviced just about every type of system out there, and without a doubt, the slower, least reliable has been Harmony. Like I said, they are great for the DIYer, but comparing side by side with a pro system, it is NOT an apple to apple comparison.