srika

Thoughts on this decision? Also any good deals you know of feel free to share. Black Friday? Etc.

I am leaning towards the OLED right now just from seeing the picture quality and blacks, but was curious on your thoughts - are there any 75" LED's that rival the OLED experience? Even sort of close would be curious.

I've been putting off this purchase forever, I think it's time.

Bearcat94

No wait. The day after you buy it, they'll come out with a new technology with a bigger screen at a lower price .... you should wait for that.

srika

Man

underdog

Its funny 'cuz its true

Bearcat94

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I think there are two basic strategies:

1.) Buy the newest thing, spending as much as you can afford, possibly compromising something (screen size here, most likely), or
2.) Value shop, basically buying 'last years model' with all the features you want.

#1 kind of 'future proofs' you .... not really, but your tech will be newer longer. #2 you might get more 'stuff' but the tech is already on the way out.

In either case, you've probably got something that will last a couple of generations.

74f100

I work on TV's for a living, so I'll have a different take.

Avoid LED if possible. Most of the problems we have today are due to poor design with LED backlight. The full array are most troublesome, but still have issues with the edge lit. The average age these sets come to visit me, less than 3 years old. If you must get LED backlit, keep the brightness or backlight settings as low as possible to still see a good image, but don't run it maxed out. The problems are simply due to manufacturers cutting costs. They overdrive the led's to give a bright, vibrant screen initially, but seriously cut the overall lifespan of the arrays by using underrated LED's.

If you can, I would recommend the OLED over LED. But they have drawbacks also. They are similar (not really, but for comparison sake) to plasma. With the same possibility of burn in. They all have different compensation intervals to help balance the panels. But if you really likeshows with static banners, manually run compensation a little more frequently. What ever you do, don't leave it on a program to entertain your pets, get a radio. Manufacturers do not consider screen burn a warranty issue. I was out on one last week that was left on FOX news for the dog. When I went into the all white test patterns, the FOX news banner was clearly burned in.

And lastly avoid black friday sales like the plague. Many name brand sets, are built with hold over parts, to just clear out the warehouses. If its a model that you've seen around throughout the year, and just marked down then, that should be ok. But if it isn't a model you've seen before, run. I tend to get a 30% jump right after black friday on warranty calls for new sets. I call in to the manufacturers, and I get the same comment everytime, ohhhhhh a black friday model. If its not a major brand, run at anytime, no matter the price.

#1 STUNNA

^Great post!

srika

Thanks buds - great info - that is the kind of direction I was looking for. OLED has def been on my mind, I just wanted some more opinions.

And being a photography person I definitely know about the "next model" conundrum / challenge. Hell just last month I bought a camera and the next model was announced 2 days later - after reviewing the differences I found it to be a worthy upgrade and returned the old model and got the new one. The struggle is real.

doopstr

Can OLED burn in be fixed by running a white screen for X hours?

MSZ

The Sony A1 does have an app to remove the burn-ins, but I don't know too much detail about it.

And that post about the weaknesses of the current TVs is excellent, unfortunately I have already bought a full array TV so hopefully I don't have to deal with the problems within 3 years.

SamDoe1

Awesome post. I'd also recommend the OLED all the way. Now that costs and such are further down from the astronomical values they were at before you shouldn't go any other way. I bought my 65" Sony LED last fall and should have gone with the LG OLED (though I guess maybe not given the issues with phone panels?). The Sony TV already had to get warranty replacement due to the backlight washing portions of the image out with the full array back. On the flip side, my two Samsung LED TV's from 2010 are still chugging along without any issues whatsoever.

74f100

It may help, but not recommended. Compensation, or balancing is done when the panel is mostly off. I haven't investigated the theory behind compensation, and what its actually doing. But it differs from the "wiping" that you did with the older plasmas. Running a white screen is actually degrading the whole panel equally. All panels degrade over time (even lcd/led). Burn in, is when one section is degraded a little more than another. The major difference, when an OLED gets far enough out of balance, it won't power the panel any longer.

If I have time over the next couple weeks, I'll read between the lines in some of the service literature out on the various OLEDs. But between a complete change over of the audio system in our TL,,,,and all the LED panels I'm rebuilding, not a lot of free time. LOL

74f100

The durability of an LCD produced in 2010, and the LEDs produced today, is dramatic. Personally, if something happened to a 2010 set, I would fix that (within reason), before buying a new one. All but one of the TV's I use, and what my daughter and her family have, are older than that......and I keep those running for a reason.

srika

Stranger Things Season 2 now streaming in 4k with HDR

OK. I think it's time.

74f100

Good luck!!! Make sure to get an extended warranty. And look at the contract for that warranty. Some warranties are claiming 5 years p&l,,,,,but the fine print states that you have to ship the set to another location at your expense. I don't have any more insight other than that on the companies. I've cut all ties with extended plans.

Doom878

This looked great on my LG C6. Night time blacks are so great. One of the better looking Dolby Vision shows on Netflix. Did you end up getting an OLED?

srika

Good to hear.

Not yet.

I am waiting on a LG 65" OLED price to come down

Sources saying coming down significantly soon. So.

Doom878

Dude they've been on sale for months. They retail $2500+ for a 65" and they've dipped to like $2,100. Check slickdeals regularly.

srika

oh. I'll admit I haven't been aggressively checking. This thread did help me make this decision between OLED and LED tho

Flipster23

iTrader: (15)

Will have to let my dad know. He's been shopping for a new TV for a while, but, he wants 80+. He doesn't have the room for a projector and screen though, unfortunately.

TacoBello

Personally, I'd go size over picture quality.

about 7 years ago, I spent a small fortune on a nice Samsung tv.. I think it was 56" in size. I could've gone for a bigger, lower quality image screen, or the smaller, higher quality image. Well, that TV is old as balls now, and even the most average tv boasts image quality at that Samsung level... but I sure as hell cant make the old screen any bigger.

turth be told, unless these TVs are side by side, I have a very hard time identififying the better picture. I honestly don't see the value in spending money on super expensive picture quality that will be surpassed and obsolete in no time. As for size? 75" will always be 75".

I just bought a new 70" tv last week, and followed the same ideology. So far, no regrets. Average TV that has better picture quality than my much more expensive and older Samsung. TVs are disposable tech these days. If it shits the bed, zero fucks given. Yeah, I'd care if I paid 4-5k for the tv. But at 1350... meh. If it lasts two years, that's money well spent.

cM3go

try greentoe.com authorized resellers and you can get a good price, free shipping and sometimes no tax...

I bought a 65" LG OLED C7P... I don't think I can go back now... the picture on this TV is insane, I love it, most of the content I watch now is HDR or Dolby Vision... holy shit its beautiful.

CCColtsicehockey

Is the motion speed on OLED as good as what plasma was yet?

Doom878

I watch sports and play video games with no detectable lag by the naked eye.

cM3go

Agreed. Hell my video games look better now than on my previous plasma.

Nexx

I have to agree on this. https://www.joesav.com/Sony-LED-HDTV...BoCdEkQAvD_BwE for $1850 shipped OTD this is probably one of the best bang for your bucks available.

srika

Thanks for the words and the link. I have yet to buy 😂. I am on the edge tho. And that Sony sure looks like a sweet deal.

Doom878

DON'T TOUCH THAT FUCKING SITE. There are many BS sites that once you give your credit card info they will begin to fuck you over. They'll call you and give you the runaround on how they don't have the TV or some other BS. Just use them for a price match with your credit card.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

classic bait and switch

00TL-P3.2

Just picked up a Series 8 Samsung 65" 4k last week.
For one, it's a massive upgrade over the 8 year old 42" Samsung we had before, which is still working great & being moved into our room.

The only thing I've noticed so far, is a bit of picture jerkiness on local channels. There's absolutely no jerkiness on cable or premium channels. Streaming Amazon Video or Netflix amazing.

Have equipment coming in today to wall mount it.

Doom878

God bless the Blu Rays upconverted to UHD too. Very underrated benefit of OLEDs.

srika

thanks for the info - the URL looked familiar from past research.....

KaMLuNg

iTrader: (5)

i bought the same tv at xmas... i am mounting it up this week... can't wait to see the difference vs my 6 series 65" non 4k...

00TL-P3.2

Was hoping to mount mine tonight, but the hardware didn't come in from Amazon
Part of the order was delivered by UPS, the mounts are being delivered by Amazon & will probably come in tomorrow.

srika

I finally bit the bullet!

Pulled the trigger on a 82" Samsung yesterday. And I got a 2 yr warranty to go with it. Hope it works ok.

TacoBello

what model did you go with?

srika

Un82mu8000

TacoBello

oh dang, you went with the 8 series too, eh? Man, I don't even want to know the price tag of that TV in 82"

Seems like a solid choice though- good picture and ginormous size. As long as it doesn't die prematurely, I bet that thing will be in your living room for a very long time.

Doom878

You got to take a pic of it in your place

srika

Actually your post was one that pushed me towards the "size" factor. Give yourself some credit on that front. The more I thought about it and prioritized my "wants" in a TV the more I realized I wanted as much of a "cinema" type of experience as I could get, within reason (i.e. not the high end). And, while 75" would have been "enough", even years ago I envisioned myself getting a 80+ down the road. So here we are. I weighed the cost factors over and over again, and finally decided, given the last TV I bought was in 2009, that I'm ok with putting some extra in for the larger set.
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