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Old 10-24-2005, 11:40 AM
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A while back I asked if anyone had a pool, and we were going between an inground and above ground... then all of the options in between. Well, after about 6 weeks of interviewing 4 builders and meeting with references, visiting other pools, etc... we made a choice and went inground.

Turns out our community only allows inground anyway, so it worked out well!! They broke ground last Monday, and the pool is already dug out and waiting for steel and plumbing, which should start this afternoon or tomorrow. Unfortunately I left for business last Tuesday, and my wife has been working late (middle of an audit) so I didn't get as many pics as I would have liked, however, we were able to snap enough shots of the progression that it flows well. Enjoy....

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damn, JB. you move fast!

Congrats on the tub!
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Originally Posted by Scrib
damn, JB. you move fast!

Congrats on the tub!
haha.... yeah, we move pretty quickly. They actually raised the prices quite a bit effective November 1st.... so we made sure to get started ASAP (saved about $6k - $8k or so). That and we didn't really want to build too deep into the winter.

Now was really the best time to build b/c they're slow and they were throwing stuff at us to get us to sign... so it worked out well
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Originally Posted by soopa
thats insane
Next time you're in the Charlotte area.... let me know. You're welcome to take a dip!!
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When will it be complete?

That deck looks too.
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When will it be complete?

That deck looks too.
Should be done (hopefully) in about 4 weeks. Usually takes 3 months... but they're not building as many pools now as in the spring/summer, so they should be able to bang it out quickly. Actually the steel guys just showed up... so they're starting on that now!

Yeah, deck is pretty big. The builder messed up and made it bigger then it was supposed to be... but we were glad b/c we will use the space (and it was their mistake... so it didn't cost us a thing)

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Old 10-24-2005, 03:28 PM
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your pool area looks pretty sweet...so when's the AZine pool party??
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Originally Posted by jz-97-c7
your pool area looks pretty sweet...so when's the AZine pool party??
haha, well, it's cooling down now... so gonna have to wait until next spring/summer
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Is there any disadvantage to pouring a pool late in the season? Does the pool have enough time to settle and get ready for the upcoming big freeze?
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Is there any disadvantage to pouring a pool late in the season? Does the pool have enough time to settle and get ready for the upcoming big freeze?
No real disadvantages except that I can't use it until the spring

The ground doesn't freeze here. People don't even close their pools here... they keep them open year round. The pumps have freeze guards for when the temp drops below 32 which automatically turn on the filter and water features to prevent the pipes from freezing... then once the temp goes back up it shuts off.

The only thing we are doing is waiting until all of the leaves are off the trees before plastering the pool b/c I don't want the leaves to stain the brand new plaster. Going forward we'll have a leaf-guard cover... so next year it won't be an issue.
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
The ground doesn't freeze here. People don't even close their pools here...
where is here?
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Oops, sorry

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Originally Posted by zeroday
where is here?
charlotte
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If I may ask, how much does it cost in Carolina for this kinda pool?
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Originally Posted by JoganJani
If I may ask, how much does it cost in Carolina for this kinda pool?
Not comfortable throwing around exact numbers... but I'll tell you that the base was $32k and we got them down to $26.5k (it pays to sign the contract and do the install in October)............ but then come the options......

Should have new pics uploaded on Monday. Steel is done and the short plumbing is going in as we speak...
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Base is 32k Damn,,,, I work for a pool co in Vegas and out BASE is 23k. but that is without a spa or anything. That is a hole in the ground with a light, plaster and water.
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
Not comfortable throwing around exact numbers... but I'll tell you that the base was $32k and we got them down to $26.5k (it pays to sign the contract and do the install in October)............ but then come the options......

Should have new pics uploaded on Monday. Steel is done and the short plumbing is going in as we speak...

Cool, I had gotten a quote of $82K for this type and kind of area for a pool, here in the Bay area. CA sucks when it comes to hiring a contractors.
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Originally Posted by SwervinCL
Base is 32k Damn,,,, I work for a pool co in Vegas and out BASE is 23k. but that is without a spa or anything. That is a hole in the ground with a light, plaster and water.
No spa here either. Just the pool. Spa was another $12k.... and it's not necessary. We'll get a jacuzzi down the road for half that.

I've noticed prices are typically less in CA, TX, NV, and FL. In Charlotte, there are national pool builders, then the local guys... and they are usually close to each other in price. If Anthony and Sylvan or Blue Haven Pools are starting around $32k in NC... they are probably about that price everywhere else... so if you are starting at $23k, you'd have a leg up at the basic pool... however, when comparing what they give you to what you give based on your post... you'd probably be up and over $30k also to match them feature for feature since all of the builders we interviewed offered a lot more included in the base then what you listed. The light they give us alone is over $1k if purchased and installed separately b/c it's all fancy LEDs and computerized.... so all of the other stuff they "include" may lead to the higher base. None of the pool companies down here dig a hole add the light, plaster and water.

Plus, size is also a factor... what size pool (perimeter and square footage) are you offering for $23k?
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Originally Posted by JoganJani
Cool, I had gotten a quote of $82K for this type and kind of area for a pool, here in the Bay area. CA sucks when it comes to hiring a contractors.
Wow... that's a lot!! What size pool is that for?

One of our neighbors in the community did a pool and they signed the contract at $36k including all of the options they wanted (or so they thought). By the time they were done building they added even more options and changed some things they finished a little north of $50k!! So things can add up quickly.
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Oh and new pics should be up this afternoon. Nothing crazy... just steel and some plumbing. Gunite shooting should be starting mid-week....
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
No spa here either. Just the pool. Spa was another $12k.... and it's not necessary. We'll get a jacuzzi down the road for half that.

I've noticed prices are typically less in CA, TX, NV, and FL. In Charlotte, there are national pool builders, then the local guys... and they are usually close to each other in price. If Anthony and Sylvan or Blue Haven Pools are starting around $32k in NC... they are probably about that price everywhere else... so if you are starting at $23k, you'd have a leg up at the basic pool... however, when comparing what they give you to what you give based on your post... you'd probably be up and over $30k also to match them feature for feature since all of the builders we interviewed offered a lot more included in the base then what you listed. The light they give us alone is over $1k if purchased and installed separately b/c it's all fancy LEDs and computerized.... so all of the other stuff they "include" may lead to the higher base. None of the pool companies down here dig a hole add the light, plaster and water.

Plus, size is also a factor... what size pool (perimeter and square footage) are you offering for $23k?

We have blue haven & anythony sylvan here and they would be about the same as we are here. They have to price according to the local market. If you do it all yourself youll save yourself about 50%...Building a pool is a very easy process if you do it yourself.

Our base is 350 sq,ft, with a 75 perimeter.
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Originally Posted by SwervinCL
Building a pool is a very easy process if you do it yourself.
How does one go about building a pool by themselves?
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Originally Posted by SwervinCL
We have blue haven & anythony sylvan here and they would be about the same as we are here. They have to price according to the local market. If you do it all yourself youll save yourself about 50%...Building a pool is a very easy process if you do it yourself.

Our base is 350 sq,ft, with a 75 perimeter.
Yeah, I don't think I'd have the machinery or know how to dig out the design of our pool, grade the land, tie the steel, run the plumbing and electrical, and so on. Most of the cost is in material anyway... and it's not like I have a concrete truck or tons of steel at my disposal. Plus, concrete, steel, etc... prices have all doubled... some tripled... so I'd rather pay someone to do it, and do it right so it will last.

FYI, the base I priced above was a 90 perimeter around 520 square feet.... so that explains some of the differences also (besides for all of the extra stuff).

The base on the 75 perimeter through our builder was about $24k ... and like yours, was pretty basic and included less stuff then we got with the 90 perimeter... so prices seem about the same

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Originally Posted by Mike97 3.0P
How does one go about building a pool by themselves?
Dig a hole and fill it with water??
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Beautiful JB. I'm not much of a pool guy but if I was building one I would be doing something very similar to your size and design.
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Beautiful JB. I'm not much of a pool guy but if I was building one I would be doing something very similar to your size and design.
Thanks Ern

The guys who did the steel were sub-contractors... and I happened to see him when he was leaving and he said he'd never seen a shape like that and he loved it. We basically took designs from several companies and kind of made our own. Our builder likes it so much that they may start offering it.....

Oh and the concrete was done about 1.5 hours ago... so I have to upload the new pics tonight. You'll see the step/bench design we came up with
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Well, I finally got around to putting the new pics up. Just a few more showing the concrete... but it looks like a pool now!! Enjoy.
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Well, I finally got around to putting the new pics up. Just a few more showing the concrete... but it looks like a pool now!! Enjoy.
Looks good
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Cool... it does look like a pool now
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Sweet! when ya having a pool party for us?
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Man you don't screw around when it comes to your house! Love it, although if I saw an almost $40K bill I'd faint. Nothing better than having a sweet house and then being able to barbeque, relax in the pool, and have guests at such a great environment. Above ground pools are such an eyesore, you are lucky your community only allows below ground.

Makes me wonder how much those uber pools with the multi-tiers, waterfalls, firepits, and built in hot tubs go for.
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Sweet! when ya having a pool party for us?
Gotta wait until spring
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Man you don't screw around when it comes to your house! Love it, although if I saw an almost $40K bill I'd faint. Nothing better than having a sweet house and then being able to barbeque, relax in the pool, and have guests at such a great environment. Above ground pools are such an eyesore, you are lucky your community only allows below ground.

Makes me wonder how much those uber pools with the multi-tiers, waterfalls, firepits, and built in hot tubs go for.
hahaha. Well, we budgeted for a pool when we sold our house in NY... so we had the money set aside.

Those huge pools with everything built in can be very expensive. Our builder did one that was $150k. Vanishing edge, jacuzzi with overflow into the pool, etc. Freakin unbelievable pool. Whatever you want done can be done if you have the money
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Nice pool JB! Are you going any kind of in-water lighting?

A business aquintance does fiber optic pool lighting, its awesome. I checked out their demo - a single fiber run around the edge, below the water lit the pool brigher then one of the hockey puck looking things every 5 feet. There is only a single bulb for the whole fiber, and it's remote do you don't have to drain the pool, reseal the lights, etc. He also showed me a pool they did here that was done with a large starfield effect (like the fiber optic curtains we use on stage) on the bottom and the whole pool was painted(?) navy blue - soooo hot looking. The single fiber is about $1K installed though, and the starfield thing was about half the price of your pool alone...insane.
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Nice pool JB! Are you going any kind of in-water lighting?

A business aquintance does fiber optic pool lighting, its awesome. I checked out their demo - a single fiber run around the edge, below the water lit the pool brigher then one of the hockey puck looking things every 5 feet. There is only a single bulb for the whole fiber, and it's remote do you don't have to drain the pool, reseal the lights, etc. He also showed me a pool they did here that was done with a large starfield effect (like the fiber optic curtains we use on stage) on the bottom and the whole pool was painted(?) navy blue - soooo hot looking. The single fiber is about $1K installed though, and the starfield thing was about half the price of your pool alone...insane.
Thanks

Yeah, we have an LED light underwater. Does 7 solid colors as well as 6 different light shows (4th of July, Mardi Gras, Sunset, etc). We got it included with our pool, but normally it's about $1k separate. We decided against LEDs under the sheer decents, but the underwater light combined with the landscape lighting we'll be doing will make it look hot when it's all done Oh, and I've seen the fiber optic starfields on the bottom of the pool... one of our pool books has that. A bit extreme, but pretty hot.

They just put in the plumbing end of last week, so electrical needs to be finished, then the coping and tiling begins... woohoo
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If anyone is interested... new pics uploaded. Everything from 11/3 on is new....

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looks awesome.

can't remember if its been asked, but, why didn't you go deeper?
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looks awesome.

can't remember if its been asked, but, why didn't you go deeper?
Nope.. .wasn't asked

Couple of reasons...

1) More money
2) You met me several times... I'm a little shit.. so's my wife. 5' at the deepest is plenty
3) We wanted a sport pool, something you can use to play volleyball, basketball, or just swim...figured the pool would be more practical that way.
4) Increases insurance premiums


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